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    PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #6

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    I lean more towards "walk away" because of the Internet searches done prior to going missing.

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    Thank you for starting this thread.

    It is a little more likely that RFG walked away, but a not more likely that he walked away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    Thank you for starting this thread.

    It is a little more likely that RFG walked away, but a not more likely that he walked away.
    That should be, not a lot more likely that RFG walked away.
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    It looks like RFG made the cell call someplace west of Centre Hall, before he was actually on Route 192. New blog on it.


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    Very strange story. I dont understand why anyone would think he would just walk away. I guess that assumption comes from the fact that he took a day off at the last minute, turned off his phone, visited a favorite antique shop and threw his computer in the river??? sounds very odd.If he was so worried about his hardrive never being found and he did walk away, why didnt he just keep it with him?
    If it was a suicide, the body should have been found by now. This theory seems way too cruel to the family. why would he put them through this again? and even if he was a walk away it seems so cruel with the positioning of the car to water, bridge etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RTC View Post
    I guess that assumption comes from the fact that he took a day off at the last minute, turned off his phone, visited a favorite antique shop and threw his computer in the river???
    1. It wasn't his "favorite" antiques shop, though he had visited it.

    2. All the things you've mentioned, if you change "computer" to hard drive, has somewhat reasonable explanations, in a non-walkaway context.

    If he was so worried about his hardrive never being found and he did walk away, why didnt he just keep it with him?
    Well, so he wouldn't have something that might end up being discovered to belong to him. He could leave it behind at some spot, by accident or someone could find it. In a strict walkaway context, it makes sense.

    It also makes sense that RFG would be interested in destroying the drive, as he was planning to retire, and then something else happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    1. It wasn't his "favorite" antiques shop, though he had visited it.

    2. All the things you've mentioned, if you change "computer" to hard drive, has somewhat reasonable explanations, in a non-walkaway context.



    Well, so he wouldn't have something that might end up being discovered to belong to him. He could leave it behind at some spot, by accident or someone could find it. In a strict walkaway context, it makes sense.

    It also makes sense that RFG would be interested in destroying the drive, as he was planning to retire, and then something else happened.
    If he visited the shop a few times he must have liked it, a favorite, not HIS favorite....
    Still not following the logic about the computer. Computer = hard drive IMO He could have left the shell of his computer on his desk and removed the hard drive,if he was so worried about returning it to the county, although a new hard drive expense probably cost more than a new laptop LOL. If he was going to reinvent himself who cares what was on the drive unless it was shady.
    I am starting to think if he left on his own, he needed to because he did something unlawful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RTC View Post
    If he visited the shop a few times he must have liked it, a favorite, not HIS favorite....
    Still not following the logic about the computer. Computer = hard drive IMO He could have left the shell of his computer on his desk and removed the hard drive,if he was so worried about returning it to the county, although a new hard drive expense probably cost more than a new laptop LOL. If he was going to reinvent himself who cares what was on the drive unless it was shady.
    I am starting to think if he left on his own, he needed to because he did something unlawful.
    RFG was approaching retirement and has asked people how to get rid of the data. He searched the Internet on how to destroy the drive, which would also destroy the data. I don't see anything strange with a guy who was retiring, and would obviously know the dangers of identity fraud, would toss the drive in a river 50 miles from home.

    I think a replacement drive would be less than $150.

    I've seen no evidence of anything "shady."


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    I'm new to this case.It's very interesting... I looked at Mr.Gricar's FBI missing person page.It stated that he "may also use the names Ray Lange or Ray Gray ".... Can anyone tell me about his use of aliases ? TIA...

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    I have always felt he walked away. That is hard to accept since he loved his daughter. Is it possible (well, sure, most things are "possible") that she knows he is alive but she hasn't said anything to anyone? This case drives me nuts.


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    After reading the threads, I wonder if he left voluntarily ? He was/is a nice looking man who kept himself in good shape.... He was approaching retirement ; perhaps he wanted to live his life in a different place, in a different way. ... I'm sure it's unrelated,but I also noticed that he disappeared on 4/15...last day to file taxes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    I'm new to this case.It's very interesting... I looked at Mr.Gricar's FBI missing person page.It stated that he "may also use the names Ray Lange or Ray Gray ".... Can anyone tell me about his use of aliases ? TIA...

    JMO

    He never used them, directly, so far as I know, but they are the surnames of his ex-wives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    He never used them, directly, so far as I know, but they are the surnames of his ex-wives.
    TY JJ. Even a cursory reading of the threads in this case tells me of your knowledge and interest in Mr.Gricar's strange disappearance. Can't help but wonder why the Bureau would give those names as aliases...

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    TY JJ. Even a cursory reading of the threads in this case tells me of your knowledge and interest in Mr.Gricar's strange disappearance. Can't help but wonder why the Bureau would give those names as aliases...

    JMO

    They might have been on credit card applications or something financial. Gray uses her single name.


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