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    I know there have been lots of maps -- thought I'd add one more

    http://goo.gl/maps/QzlB

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    Speaking of "slow news day" From a psychological profiling pov, what do you make of the body dispositions? That is, what do you think (if anything) that the victims were found strangled, nude, and wrapped in burlap? ( link ) And, while we're on the topic of clothes (or lack thereof), what do you make of this statement?

    The driver said he drove back to the client's house and found Gilbert, who was clothed, in the living room on the phone with a 911 operator, saying that a man was after her. ( link)

    Hint: volunteering superfluous information is usually a marker for what?
    I thought he might have meant that the john and Shannan were either, "finished" or that they were not in the act of being intimate but might have already done so.

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    awesome and simple map thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    Speaking of "slow news day" From a psychological profiling pov, what do you make of the body dispositions? That is, what do you think (if anything) that the victims were found strangled, nude, and wrapped in burlap? ( link ) And, while we're on the topic of clothes (or lack thereof), what do you make of this statement?

    The driver said he drove back to the client's house and found Gilbert, who was clothed, in the living room on the phone with a 911 operator, saying that a man was after her. ( link)

    Hint: volunteering superfluous information is usually a marker for what?
    Lying. But it's hard to tell if the driver offered that info, or was replying to a question he was asked by the reporter. Without a direct quote from the driver, I can't evaluate a statement for deception markers.

    As for the question about the way the bodies were dumped...I've wondered about that many times. I believe these women were killed while engaged in a sexual act, so I guess it wouldn't be a stretch to believe they were completely nude when the act occured. I do think that would depend alot upon where the act took place, though. If it was a car date, I'm pretty sure total nudity isn't the norm. If the sex act occurred in a very private place, then certainly total nudity during the act would have been an option, and probably even the norm.

    I also think it's possible that, if they were killed in the act while partially clad, the killer stripped them nude to hinder identification. Though, why we would have a ligature left on one of the bodies, I can not even begin to guess. Well, I CAN guess, but I don't have a good guess.

    The choice of burlap bags? Because it blends into the terrain. Our SK can ride by his trophies whenever he wants, pick them out visually, but no one else can see his work. It's right there under everyone's noses, and he gets off on that like you wouldn't believe. (IMO)

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    I think JB, the driver, and the elderly neighbor are telling the truth. Sounds like Shannon was delusional and really was refusing to leave the residence because she thought someone was after her. She didn't even let the old guy help her, but probably ran right into the serial killer in that very neighborhood who didn't think that anything suspicious would ever happen there to cause the bodies to be found. After all, if a serial killer has bodies buried nearby ( and many have done that) who'd want a screaming woman running around drawing attention to the gated community, especially a prostitute, since he had killed and hidden others nearby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    I think JB, the driver, and the elderly neighbor are telling the truth. Sounds like Shannon was delusional and really was refusing to leave the residence because she thought someone was after her. She didn't even let the old guy help her, but probably ran right into the serial killer in that very neighborhood who didn't think that anything suspicious would ever happen there to cause the bodies to be found. After all, if a serial killer has bodies buried nearby ( and many have done that) who'd want a screaming woman running around drawing attention to the gated community, especially a prostitute, since he had killed and hidden others nearby.
    I don't know...but I think Pelkofsky's recent comment pretty much says it all IMO:

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Iri...120687974.html

    Gilbert had been reported missing and was last seen in the area. She has not been found. Gilbert, along with the other eight victims found along the coast on Long Island, was a prostitute who advertised her services on the classifieds website Craigslist.

    Suffolk County Detective Lt. Gerard Pelkofsky said "Common sense tells us it's not a coincidence."


    If Shannen Gilbert was not a Craigslist prostitute - then I might could consider that she just happened to run into the serial killer down the road. But the fact that she was there in response to her Craigslist ad and the fact that the other 4 young women also advertised with Craigslist....makes it *way* more than a coicidence that she disappeared IMO.

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    There are dozens if not hundreds of Craigslist/backpage prostitutes on Long Island. Why do some of them get chosen by the killer and most of them not?
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    There are dozens if not hundreds of Craigslist/backpage prostitutes on Long Island. Why do some of them get chosen by the killer and most of them not?
    I think it's probably like your average sex offender....there's generally a "cooling off" period between victims.

    And, obviously, something else was going on in his life during 2008...

    Does anyone know when exactly Brewer divorced or split up with the mother of his daughter? Or is it possible in 2008 he was living with someone, which would have made it difficult to do any "dirty deeds" in that time frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Pete From LI appears to be another poster on the newsday forum with whom some posters have a problem. LOL...he posts on MTV too, and I think he might be "headphone pete". Not our guy.

    *giggles* because the slow news day crazies have started to set in.
    Gee, I don't know about that. He advertises on CL and one poster said he answered her ad but she was afraid of him. You would think his local reputation might have helped steer LE his way, eh?

    We don't know if what is said in those comments is true so categorize them as RUMOR {even tho what they say is startling considering what we have learned about him}.
    Last edited by scandi; 04-28-2011 at 10:42 PM. Reason: Correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    There are dozens if not hundreds of Craigslist/backpage prostitutes on Long Island. Why do some of them get chosen by the killer and most of them not?
    I'd guess that's just logistics. I do think he hires quite a few prostitutes. And certainly doesn't kill all of them. But I'd bet my bottom dollar that the ones he does kill, he spends alot of time "courting" and "wooing". I think that's a huge part of the turn on for him. He wants to know these women before he swoops in and obliterates them. It's part of the owning process.

    ETA: I don't think he's anything like your average sex offender. And I'm not convinced there was a "cooling off" period in 2008.

    JMO
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    I posted last night about Brewer's mother's home (in W Islip) being midway between Hauppauge and Massapequa. Just wanted to add Costello's address to the mix.

    W Islip to Hauppauge - 12.3 miles

    W Islip to Massapequa - 11.4 miles

    W Islip to 1115 America Ave, W Babylon - 4 miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    PH walking oddly ( link @ approx 1.40 )
    He appears to have an injury or disability, and is accustomed to compensating for it when he walks. He's moved like that in all of his interviews. He may also have a slight speech impediment, perhaps like someone who was tongue-tied at birth. The disability and possible speech impediment mimic the appearance of drunkenness, but they don't look exactly the same to me. He doesn't seem to be suffering from cognitive impairment.

    In fact, it's the doc's apparent mobility issues that make me think twice about him as a suspect. Not that such a disability would make committing multiple murders impossible, but they should make one less confident of physically dominating someone else, even a petite young woman. If he's walking like that, there's a good chance that he's also in chronic pain. Tussling with a struggling victim would put him at risk of exacerbating it. Wouldn't that spoil the "fun"? Can you imagine throwing your back out (a probably-less-painful condition) and then getting into a wrestling match with someone who's fighting for their life? Then standing on uneven, unfamiliar ground on a pitch black night and heaving their body into the shrubbery?

    Of course, if he's working with someone else and/or drugging the victims, his age and physical limitations would be less of a problem. If he is the killer, he probably has help.

    (What about the Manhattan connection? Do we know if the doctor has reason to be in the city regularly?)

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    The video where the wife talks, you can see PH walk into the house. I didn't notice any strangeness to his gait in that video. But then, maybe I wasn't looking for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    Speaking of "slow news day" From a psychological profiling pov, what do you make of the body dispositions? That is, what do you think (if anything) that the victims were found strangled, nude, and wrapped in burlap? ( link ) And, while we're on the topic of clothes (or lack thereof), what do you make of this statement?

    The driver said he drove back to the client's house and found Gilbert, who was clothed, in the living room on the phone with a 911 operator, saying that a man was after her. ( link)

    Hint: volunteering superfluous information is usually a marker for what?
    No real firm opinions here, but have considered the burlap might represent a shroud. Also might be the perp thinks prints are easier to lift from plastic than cloth. Although we know the bodies were spaced evenly apart, would be interesting to know if LE has determined them being placed in a particular direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Even weirder was his comment in a radio interview where he said, "I have no friends but the truth." WTH does THAT mean? Creepy.

    Another comment, when asked if he was concerned about what this might do to his reputation, he says something to the effect of, "I've had a fortunate life." Again...WTH?!
    Always remember my grandma saying "if someone says 'trust me' ... don't". Honest people generally don't feel the need to preface their statements with an announcement that they are honest.

    As for having a fortunate life, maybe he means in contrast to the victims. Could also be that he feels the fortunate part of his life is about to come to an end?

    JMO

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    Maybe PH knew SG from some sort of 12 Step meeting

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