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    NJ - Hoboken, WhtFemale 207UFNJ, 24-34, in Hudson River, Feb'05

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 02:09 PM.

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    I sure do. Great find Synthia. Are you going to contact the Doe Network?

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    I definately see a resemblance. Esp. between her and the drawing.

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    I am so bad at contacting people.. all tongue tied .. ha ha.. but I thought there was a strong resemblence..just need everyone elses advice.. how should I go out contacting someone? Thanks all!

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    The Dates do not match

    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200502412S

    The above was not reported missing until 12-29-04 she was also reportedly 5ft 7in while Jane Doe was believed to be a couple inches shorter. The above is also suspected to involve foul play while below it is supsected she drowned.

    Jane Doe estimated death was Nov 1, 2005 though she wasn't found until Feb 9, 2005. That's almost a 2 month time discrepency (sp?). I would think they would be able to narrow down when she died pretty accurately. Now if it was been longer then a few months it might be more of a possibility of the death date being off.

    Now, obviously this is just my opinion and that of the examiners of Jane Doe. and maybe it is her, I just don't see it myself

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    Was this ever submitted for consideration? They do look a lot alike IMO.

    Ruleouts:
    Amanda Carroll 1979 New Jersey
    Hope Curry 1977 Virginia
    Carmen Hetrick 1956 Colorado
    Penny Lease 1965 Illinois
    Maryanne Ruffini 1968 New Jersey

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1454

    The UID is in Codis according to Doe network
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/207ufnj.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/991/0/
    says Stobaugh's DNA status is
    Sample submitted - Tests complete

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    I see the resemblance too. we have seen height discrepancies of 4" or more and the weight is a bit off but that might be due to decomposition.

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    NJ - Hudson River in Hoboken - White Female 207UFNJ, 24-34, Feb 2005

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 207UFNJ
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/207ufnj.html
    NamUs UP Case 1454 https://identifyus.org/cases/1454


    Reconstructions of Victim

    Unidentified White Female

    * The victim was discovered on February 9, 2005 in the Hudson River in Hoboken, Hudson County, New Jersey
    * Estimated Date of Death: November 1, 2004

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated Year of Birth: 1970-1980
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'3" - 5'5"; 145 - 165 lbs
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair with blonde streaks and shoulder length; brown/hazel eyes. Medium to stocky build. Pierced ears. She had very short nails and pink toenail polish. No tattoos.
    * Clothing: One black cowboy boot with a hole in the sole and two dark colored socks with floral design. A Citizens quartz watch with a black band.
    * Fingerprints: Available
    * Dentals: Available. Several fillings.
    * DNA: Available in CODIS

    Case History
    It was determined that the woman drowned because there were no obvious signs of trauma no bullet holes or stab wounds. Investigators do not believe that her death was a homicide.
    The woman was fingerprinted, but her prints did not turn up in the State Police database.
    Although the woman was found in Hoboken, she could have entered the river at any point.
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    With the exception of the distance, Stephanie Louise Banks fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...stephanie.html



    * Height (5'4") is right (UID estimated at 5'3"-5'5")
    * Age (28) is right (UID estimated at 25-35)
    * She is a little heavier than Jane Doe, but not much heavier.
    * Timeline looks reasonable. SLB was last seen 9 months before the UID was thought to have died, and her disappearance appears to have been voluntary (at least initially).
    * Cowboy boots on the UID seem more consistent with a person from Kentucky than from NYC or New Jersey.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 02:11 PM.

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    I think they look similar.. maybe she took off and went to NJ to commit suicide.. just a thought...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    With the exception of the distance, Stephanie Louise Banks fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...stephanie.html



    * Height (5'4") is right (UID estimated at 5'3"-5'5")
    * Age (28) is right (UID estimated at 25-35)
    * She is a little heavier than Jane Doe, but not much heavier.
    * Timeline looks reasonable. SLB was last seen 9 months before the UID was thought to have died, and her disappearance appears to have been voluntary (at least initially).
    * Cowboy boots on the UID seem more consistent with a person from Kentucky than from NYC or New Jersey.
    Submitted by e-mail to Donna Fontana of the NJ State Police (NamUs Case Manager).

    Another thing I noticed is that the ears are spot-on (If the right ear in the recon is accurately depicted).
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 02:11 PM.

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    there is Kimberly MacIntosh, missing from Johnson City, TN on November 26, 2004. Last seen taking a bus to NYC.

    Kimberly was 34 y.o., 5'6", 180 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes. supposedly had previously fractured wrist as per Nampn:

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/macintosh_kimberly_m.html

    per Namus she was taller at 5'8" and no mention of the prior fracture:

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/153/7/

    both sources note double pierced ears and that the only known clothing/accessories Kimberly was seen with was a pink purse. both Namus and Nampn say the UID had pink toenail polish and unspecified pierced ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Submitted by e-mail to Donna Fontana of the NJ State Police (NamUs Case Manager).

    Another thing I noticed is that the ears are spot-on (If the right ear in the recon is accurately depicted).
    I agree about the ears... I think they look strikenly similar!!! Curious to see what NJ State Police has to say!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    I agree about the ears... I think they look strikenly similar!!! Curious to see what NJ State Police has to say!!
    She replied to my e-mail, saying only "Thank you". But at least she acknowledged receipt of my message.

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    The General Discussion thread for this UID is at this link.

    NJ NJ - Hoboken - WhtFem Drowning Victim in Hudson River - Feb'05 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    Discussion of persons other than Katherine Stobaugh as possibles to this UID should go on the above-linked thread.
    Last edited by KateB; 04-28-2015 at 10:09 AM. Reason: repair url tag.

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