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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    it was reported when Amber first moved to New York she was in rehab for a short time but I've never been able to find any reference to which rehab center she went to...

    I did find another Oak Beach resident who is pres/ceo of one of the oldest rehab centers in NY --

    www.acirehab.org
    I hate to say it, but... hello? What research do these people base their "Addiciton is a disease of desire" theory? Research (see footnotes) indicates there is a notable neurological relationship to addiction. And that, in fact, people can be off hard drugs for decades, and, when shown a triggering scene... say, for example someone getting ready to score, the pleasure centers of the brain will go absolutely wild. In fact, one of the papers I did for my masters was titled, "The Salivating Brain." Otherwise put, once an individual is addicted, it is no longer about "will power" rather, it is about physiological changes that cannot be cured by rudimentary 12-step programs, behavior modification ala daily affirmations (ala mantras). While some will swear by these programs, the individual is simply replacing one addiction with another. Hence, the phrase, "drug of choice." In fact, Imho, the primary reason addiction is just about impossible to "cure" is bc people incorrectly think its about will power. As for addiction and its potential relation to these murders? Possibly... I guess...

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    • Troisi, J. R. II, Akins, C. (2004) The Discriminative Stimulus Effects of Cocaine in a Pavlovian Sexual: Approach Paradigm in Male Japanese Quail. Experimental and Clinical Psychopharmacology. 12(4) 237–242.
    • Witkiewitz, K & Marlatt, G. A. (2004, May-June) Relapse Prevention for Alcohol and Drug Problems: That Was Zen, This Is Tao. American Psychologist. 59(4) 224–235.
    • Berridge, K. C. (2005) Espresso Reward Learning, Hold the Dopamine: Theoretical Comment on Robinson et al. (2005) Behavioral Neuroscience. 119(1) 336–341.
    • Rhodes, J. S., Ryabinin, A. E., & Crabbe, J. C. (2005) Patterns of Brain Activation Associated With Contextual Conditioning to Methamphetamine in Mice. Behavioral Neuroscience. 119(3) 759–771.
    • Meyers, R. A., Zavala, A. R., Speer, C. M. & Neisewander, J. L. (2006) Dorsal Hippocampus Inhibition Disrupts Acquisition and Expression, but Not Consolidation, of Cocaine Conditioned Place Preference. Behavioral Neuroscience. 120(2) 401–412.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    it was reported when Amber first moved to New York she was in rehab for a short time but I've never been able to find any reference to which rehab center she went to...

    I did find another Oak Beach resident who is pres/ceo of one of the oldest rehab centers in NY --

    www.acirehab.org
    Great Find, MrsPC!!! And he just so happens to live in the direction that she was running!!!

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    how did we miss this guy? SJY

    this person deserves sleuthing, residences in manhattan, oak beach, former addict, runs a rehab center. Oak beach is starting to look like a country club for one time addicts who are well off and have involvement in the medical community. If the resolution to this case involves real (or phony) rehab scenarios ... move over cuckoo's nest and shutter island, there's a new hollywood blockbuster coming!

    SJY (akward acronym, lets hold a competition for a nickname ... Nurse Ratched?) isn't your average neighbor, witnesses fiance get decapitated then buries his pain in Heroin... Oak Beach, where do you find these people?

    Seriously though, I now have real sleuthing to do for the first time in months... If the rehab center CPH has stayed in turns out to be ACI... Lord God I'm going to start writing a screenplay this weekend...

    I know it's not very useful to judge people on their looks, but SJY wears make up, dyes his hair, and looks like he spends more time prepping then these victims... which i guess isn't unusual for someone involved in Broadway... His choice of shows is a bit comical as it relates to oak beach: Little shop, Sweeney Todd.

    I wish this case didn't have such an odd cast of characters, it might be easier to stay grounded in reality...

    Back to reality...aside from making good copy, the rehab phone call makes this subject worthy of sleuthing. Maybe that phone call to Gilbert's mom has some relation to ACI/Ratched?

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    Wow!!! How DID we miss this OB resident? Things are beginning to make a little more sense (in my mind) about the resident(s) who were interviewed stating not to ask them to 'give up my neighbor' along with the strange phone call that Shannan's mother received.

    In regard to the Holiday Inn Express...I've had an idea that the SK made initial contact appointments with the victims from a hotel computer or thru his own laptop in a room that connects to the hotels' main page. The last hotel I stayed in was one of those 'suite' hotels for long term stays. There was a common computer in the hotel lobby, it was first come first serve, no sign up sheet but there was always someone using it. However, I did have to register with the hotels mainpage in order to connect with my laptop. Hope this makes sense.

    This case just gets weirder and weirder doesn't it? Wonder if we could somehow find out (thru FB maybe?) where Amber underwent her rehab?

    Great sleuthing all. We might just be onto something here!

    Moo

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    ETA Another reason that I thought of this is because I read an article (can't recall where but it was MSM) a few years back that terrorists used computers in hotels' common areas to communicate without being tracked, FWIW
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    From this past Sunday's Newsday (I know a lot of people don't have access but they do name the rehab Amber went to):

    "She attended a 28-day rehab program at St. Charles Hospital in Port Jefferson, where Brodsky said he met her. Both of them relapsed into drug use by the following spring."

    http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking...down-1.2950472

    ETA: That's not to say Amber hadn't been to other rehabs in the past, it's not uncommon for addicts to be in and out of different detox or rehab facilities

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    Here is a list of bussinesses, icl location of the bizz, that SJY is either:
    owner of and/or president of, and/or prossess agent for, and/or chairman of.

    1.SJY REALTY CORP
    Merrick, NY
    Oak beach, NY


    2. AMERICAN CASEMANAGEMENT
    Merrick, NY
    New york, NY

    3. PAN AMERICAN MEDICAL CENTER, INC
    New york, NY

    4. AMERICAN CASE MANAGEMENT OF NEW YORK, INC
    Merrick, NY
    New york, NY

    5. APPLIED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IPA, INC
    New york, NY


    6. APPLIED CASEMANAGEMENT, INC
    New york, NY


    7. APPLIED CONSULTING, INC
    Merrick, NY
    New york, NY


    8. JPRCP, INC
    New york, NY


    9. SY GARDEN LLC
    Oak beach, NY


    10. NINE ELEVEN CASE MANAGEMENT, INC
    New york, NY


    11. SY 400 GCP LLC
    New york, NY



    12. SY 990 STEWART LLC
    e New york, NY


    13. AREBA INC
    New york, NY


    14. AREBA-CASRIEL, INC
    New york, NY

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    Quote Originally Posted by goathairjones View Post
    Great Find, MrsPC!!! And he just so happens to live in the direction that she was running!!!
    what caught my eye about his history is that he witnessed his girlfriend being decapitated in an auto accident & then he became a heroin addict and his NY office is actually in Manhattan I think, and he has family in Bellmore (isn't that one of the locations where remains were found?) Also, about a month ago when I first started looking at him - he had a comment on his Facebook page - "I love sex"...but he's since taken it off.

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    wow...don't know why I didn't think about it sooner....there is a video of him speaking on youtube...perhaps the sister who rec'd the taunting phone calls might recognize his voice??

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    MrsPC, You should post a link on the FB site! Moo

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    ...and be sure your sin will find you out.

    Numbers,32:23

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    here's a spot on youtube on ACI Rehab

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    Man that early 90's Power tie and a slow zoom really make this guy look like a culprit from Beverly Hills Cop or Lethal Weapon .... lol

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    Come on, Guys, I think this is funny, but lets not get carried away here. I am a recovered alcoholic, and it is most likely this man is a good guy, so let's tread lightly.

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    He's got ties to Manhattan and Oak Beach-two locations involved in these crimes. Does he also happen to run a rehab program out of his house? This youtube ad should be sent to Melissa's family members and Shannan's mother ASAP. Does anyone want to contact them? I know that Shannan's mother can be reached on Facebook. She might be able to pass this along to Melissa's family since she's in touch with them. Someone should do this quickly before this ad "disappears" from Youtube. I'd volunteer to do this, but I'm not from the area and I don't know as much about him as you guys seem to. If nobody wants to, then I can do it.

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    It would be illegal for him to run a treatment program from out of his house, and I doubt he would want to risk losing his drug treatment center's accreditation by working out of his home. But knock yourself out. How many people that live on Long Island have connections or work in Manhattan?

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    I think it would need to be verified that she actually went through that treatment program. Prostitutes don't usually have health insurance and it doesn't look to me like the treatment program would be cheap or free.

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