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    Several posters, including myself, tried their best to track this rumor down. I spent much time on google, as did others, and could find nothing that would fit the time period for a woman and child missing. I concluded this was just a rumor started by someone trying their best to make JB a suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    Several posters, including myself, tried their best to track this rumor down. I spent much time on google, as did others, and could find nothing that would fit the time period for a woman and child missing. I concluded this was just a rumor started by someone trying their best to make JB a suspect.
    I sleuthed it too, Redbird...but it was so long ago, I couldn't remember all the details. Part of the problem, for me, was trying to track down such scant info. I don't believe Gia was even her first name, and I never could determine her last name or the actual address, other than it was somewhere close to 111 Higbie(?).

    Anyway...kind of silly to bring it up, I guess, since none of us has enough info to dig any deeper.
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    It did drive me nuts trying to finding it. I think I looked up every missing woman for the time period with or without kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    It did drive me nuts trying to finding it. I think I looked up every missing woman for the time period with or without kids.
    What's the time period exactly? I keep getting confused between all these victims and body parts turning up in different places at different times!
    Some people do crossword puzzles or Soduko in their spare time...I look at skeletal reconstructions and work on UID puzzles. I swear I'm not this morbid in person!

    Help Fred Murray find his daughter and bring her home. He should not be walking those woods alone!
    What Happened to Maura Murray? http://www.mauramurraymissing.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by future criminologist View Post
    What's the time period exactly? I keep getting confused between all these victims and body parts turning up in different places at different times!
    In quickly searching my notes, I found this rumor mainly coming from one poster. He claims JB and his brother are landlords in West Islip and just over a year before bodies were discovered, a single mom named Gia who lived in an apartment house on Higbie Lane across the street from 111 Higblie Lane disappeared along with her 2 year old daughter. Supposedly she was JB's girlfriend. The poster claimed to not know her last name. No one else seems to be able to find any information about her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    Several posters, including myself, tried their best to track this rumor down. I spent much time on google, as did others, and could find nothing that would fit the time period for a woman and child missing. I concluded this was just a rumor started by someone trying their best to make JB a suspect.
    Thanks Redbird for giving it the 'ole college try. Learning of this possibility is almost haunting.

    If this rumored info is fact it would point to JB being suspect as the SK, right? I remember watching him on TV right after this investigation started and he did seem weird to me - his demeanor a bit too casual for the severity of what he was involved with I thought. Very soft spoken with a smiley type disposition is what hit me. Odd I thought, not direct nor very dynamic in speaking out about what had happened.

    I'm still too stuck on CPH because of all the Circum. info we have about him. I think it could well be JB and CPH worked in laison somehow. Shannan's trail led the way {without forethought on her part IMO} down to CPH's house which is where he could have seen her running {driving, looking for her} and stopped, grabbed her up into the truck. He also could have been at JB's house when the going got verbally scary for Shannon and she ran out the door. That is what I think happened just off the cuff from reading everything.

    But after reading everything written on this forum I think the FBI knew who the killer was right away. The posters here are very astute IMO and I read them with their great insight and investigatory knowledge.

    I think LE knows just who committed these murders but need back-up info from the public to arrest the person/s involved. I hope the heat is on and the killer is shivering in his boots about now.

    ETA: Oh, I just remembered about JB being seen with someone loading a trailer beside his house. Could it have been CPH who was his cohort and they had something nefarious going on? Maybe they never raised any eyebrows until Shannon went missing besides JB loading the trailer like that in the middle of the night. I have no idea but it seems suspicious to me. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    In quickly searching my notes, I found this rumor mainly coming from one poster. He claims JB and his brother are landlords in West Islip and just over a year before bodies were discovered, a single mom named Gia who lived in an apartment house on Higbie Lane across the street from 111 Higblie Lane disappeared along with her 2 year old daughter. Supposedly she was JB's girlfriend. The poster claimed to not know her last name. No one else seems to be able to find any information about her.
    Surely the woman & child would have been id'ed by now if she was the missing girlfriend of JB (if he even has a missing girlfriend).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillwatersc View Post
    Surely the woman & child would have been id'ed by now if she was the missing girlfriend of JB (if he even has a missing girlfriend).
    I'm sure LE would have been all over this if there were some basis for this rumor. And they have many tools we do do not have to locate this person if they existed. Every comment this poster made was an attempt to point away from CPH and toward JB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillwatersc View Post
    Surely the woman & child would have been id'ed by now if she was the missing girlfriend of JB (if he even has a missing girlfriend).
    It's also quite possible that the poster of the story simply didn't have his or her facts straight. Maybe this girl and her daughter did disappear, but not under any nefarious circumstances. Sometimes people owe a landlord money, can't pay, and just take off.

    Who can say?

    The only reason I brought it up was because I had forgotten about it until the other day, and was just curious if anyone else had run across that story, or found any more info on it.
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    At my last job I had access to a skip tracing site that would give you the last fifteen or twenty addresses for a person. You could also do a reverse search and see all the previous occupants of any particular address. Would love to have that handy now! And I used to look up addresses where I was living to see if anybody had died there. It would even tell you that. Didn't want to be living with any ghosts.


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    I'm sticking this here for the time being because I don't know where else to put it.

    http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/m...yers/12965.pdf
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    My intuition tells me that it will eventually come out that like "Peaches", the mother and child have direct ties to the area in Connecticut where those other unsolved murders took place. It cannot be just another coincidence that CT has a dumping grounds where strangled prostitutes and dismembered bodies missing limbs also have been dumped.

    http://www.angelfire.com/ct3/unsolve...alkillers.html

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    IIRC, it's reported that the unidentified child was determined to be the child of an unidentified victim/or remains that were found 7 months earlier. ....or at least I think that's what I read.

    So, I was researching un-id'd remains found and found an article about human remains found in N Lindenhurst 10/4/10 near a cemetery at N Monroe Ave & Frank St....so I'm curious if those remains are the ones law enforcement are referring to as the mother of the child??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    IIRC, it's reported that the unidentified child was determined to be the child of an unidentified victim/or remains that were found 7 months earlier. ....or at least I think that's what I read.

    So, I was researching un-id'd remains found and found an article about human remains found in N Lindenhurst 10/4/10 near a cemetery at N Monroe Ave & Frank St....so I'm curious if those remains are the ones law enforcement are referring to as the mother of the child??
    Do you have a link to that article?

    If that is true, then it's near the same exact dump site where Laura Parker's body was found rolled up in an old rug back around 1984. Her murder was mentioned in that article I posted a few weeks ago about cold cases on Long Island. There are apartments or condos standing now where the wooded lot was where she was found but Frank street does end at railroad tracks and there is usually high grass along the cemetery's property leading to the tracks. My grandparents are hurried there. Thought I would have heard about remains found there recently.

    I think we are hanging on to every word LE states too much. I am pretty sure LE meant to say that the child's remains are related to one of the Jane doe's dumped along ocean parkway (not a Jane doe dumped elsewhere). They surely would have stated the other location (like Lindenhurst) if they meant otherwise.

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    I apologize...I misread the articles. I had thought they said the toddler's mom was found 7 months before but the articles say the mom was found 7 miles away

    http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?...6TsJk0NY55lw--

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