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View Poll Results: Did the State prove its case against Bradley Cooper?

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  • BC is guilty and the State proved their case

    40 40.40%
  • BC is guilty but the State did NOT prove their case

    30 30.30%
  • BC is innocent but the State will prevail

    0 0%
  • BC is innocent and the State did not prove otherwise.

    29 29.29%

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  1. #16
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    They proved his guilt, by the skin of their teeth.

  2. #17
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    Before the trial, I had no opinion G or NG in this case beyond knowing that the husband or BF is the murderer more often than any other single category (e.g. friend, stranger, other family members), but far less often than all other categories.

    Since I am still on the fence, my vote was Not Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and therefore still Presumed Innocent. Somewhat frustrated that the poll did not allow for this option.

    This case, by itself, raises many issues that regularly threaten our legal and Constitution rights. At its core is the right to a fair trial, defendants rights including Brady, concept of real evidence in a virtual world, and how woefully equipped are our public institutions, our judges, attorneys, our law enforcement, members of the press, elected officials, and ordinary citizens.

    Consider how difficult it already is to evaluate electronic evidence in forensic investigations -- whether provable beyond a reasonable doubt or not. Step back from the Cooper trial, look at the problems from a wider view, and use your common sense. Can you tell the difference between a valid piece of electronic evidence from one that is faked, modified, planted, doctored, or otherwise not what it claims to be? Could a jury if you were on trial?

    One can suddenly face huge problems with little more than a Shockwave Flash (SWF) delivered to your browser via an email, an ad hosted by a compromised site, or with the SWF attack code embedded in a PDF file embeded in an Excel workbook embedded in a Word document. And on and on.

    For this example, suppose you are browsing your favorite real crime site, searching other sites to look at related topics, and one of these sites displays images hosted by a hacked site. That SWF is really a program that executes unseen within your browser session, able to "browse" the web exactly as if done by you but without displaying anything.

    Suppose this program downloaded kiddie porn, maybe found and used your credit card info to sign you up for special services, and even used the laptop camera to take the picture of you in your underwear propped up in bed. (Don't worry, your security settings will be set back just like they were.)

    If we were a juror, would we have any doubt of the defendant's guilt?

    If we were the defendant, could any of us prove that we were innocent?

  3. #18
    I think they proved their case completely.The google map isn't the only thing that shows Brad did it to me.

  4. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigressPen View Post
    I think they proved their case completely.The google map isn't the only thing that shows Brad did it to me.
    I voted guilty but no proof.

    The post from unc70 pretty much sums it up for me.

  5. #20
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    It appears this case will be a close call. Interesting.

    Salem

  6. #21
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    I voted guilty, but the state did not prove their case. 60% of me thinks he's guilty largely because of the statistical evidence detailed by unc70,and the lack of viable alternatives, but I would need to be far more certain than 60% to return a guilty verdict. The state didn't prove their case, in small part because of their own ineptitude (inexplicably not securing the PCs, cellphones, etc..as evidence), but mostly because the physical evidence was just not there, something for which no one is really to blame.

  7. #22
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    May 2011
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    Raleigh, NC
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    I need more concrete evidence before I would vote to send a person to prison for the rest of his life; or even 25 to 30 years! I concede that he 'likely' did it, but the State failed miserably in proving he did it.

  8. #23
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    Guilty and Proven beyond a reasonable doubt!

  9. #24
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    Mar 2011
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    Not Guilty.

    Google search doesn't matter whether real or planted because he did not spoof the phone call and NC went running that morning.
    Hoisted with his own Petard

  10. #25
    Not Guilty. The instructions to the jury stated that, for a Guilty vote, one needed to be "entirely convinced" that the defendant did the crime. I am not. And since our system presumes innocence until proven guilty, I voted BC is innocent.
    "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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