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    OR - Grand Ronde, WhtMale UP8750, 25-40, Apr'11 - Name not found

    The remains have evidently been at the site for a long time, perhaps as long as five years, officials told KATU News. The remains have not yet been identified.

    Deputies said the bones were located in a wooded area south of 8500 Rowell Creek Road.
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/120892909.html
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-24-2013 at 01:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post

    Thanks CarlK, Grand Ronde is on the road from Portland to the Oregon Coast and at about the half way mark. There is a large Indian casino there, a gas station/store and a good restaurant. That's about it except for a small population of people.

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    NamUs page: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8750

    Estimated age Adult - Pre 40
    Minimum age 25 years
    Maximum age 40 years
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 70, Estimated

    Probable year of death 2010 to 2011
    Estimated postmortem interval 1 Years

    Rule Outs:
    Russell Gonzales 1964 Oregon
    Christopher Mann 1984 North Dakota
    Kevin Nordquist 1967 Oregon
    Mansoor Riaz 1979 Washington
    Samuel Stefonek 1980 Washington
    Robertson Winters 1985 Oregon

    I have 2 maybes after searching...

    David Mekvold
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...se_information

    Charles Farley
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13879/0/

    *I know age is off with Farley - but his truck was found 60 miles away

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    Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

    Jason Franks
    Russell Gonzales
    Donnell Love
    Christopher Mann
    Kevin Nordquist
    Mansoor Riaz
    Jerry Smith
    Samuel Stefonek
    Robertson Winters

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    kpdx is offline Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of Everett WA
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    OR - Polk County, WhtMale Skeletal, 25-45, Fully Clothed in Ravine, May'11

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/full_report/8750

    Demographics
    Estimated age Adult - Pre 40
    Minimum age 25 years
    Maximum age 40 years
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 70, Estimated

    Fully skeletonized remains found in Polk County, Oregon. . Private citizen and his dog found skull near 8590 Rowell Creek Road, off of Rod 700 and Road 701 intersection. The rest of the skeletonized remains were found a short distance away, down a ravine. Fully clothed, see clothing descriptions for details.

    Clothing on body nylon pants with elastic waistband, unknown color; full-zip fleece jacket, brand "Hood River", size XL; hooded, pull-over sweatshirt with kangaroo pocket, unknown color; waffle weave crew neck T-shirt with stripe across chest and arms, brand "XG (Extreme Quality)", size XL; waffle weave henley style T-shirt with buttons, brand "High Sierra", size L; remnant of "Levi Silver Tab" jeans

    Clothing with body
    Footwear ankle high leather hiking boots, brand "Wolverine", soles measure 13 inches in length
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 01-18-2013 at 07:36 PM.
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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/17679

    John Jeremy Biesen - missing January 2010

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    kpdx is offline Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of Everett WA
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    I believe this is Jeromy Childress: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ss_jeromy.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jazzyrose/Childress.html
    http://forensicastrology.blogspot.co...childress.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/870/0/

    Based on proximity, clothing, demographics and circumstance.

    I submitted in Nov. 2011, after running across this case...and never heard back. Knowing DNA matching takes time, I gave it a while...but its been over a year and Jeromy is still not listed as a rule out to this UID.

    Anyone have a good relationship with Veronica Vance in OR that they can send along?
    'Nothing clears up a case so much as stating it to another person.'

    Sherlock Holmes

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpdx View Post
    I believe this is Jeromy Childress: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ss_jeromy.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jazzyrose/Childress.html
    http://forensicastrology.blogspot.co...childress.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/870/0/

    Based on proximity, clothing, demographics and circumstance.

    I submitted in Nov. 2011, after running across this case...and never heard back. Knowing DNA matching takes time, I gave it a while...but its been over a year and Jeromy is still not listed as a rule out to this UID.

    Anyone have a good relationship with Veronica Vance in OR that they can send along?
    I think I know someone who can pass this along to her for us. If not, I'll let you know. Otherwise, assume she gets this message.

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    kpdx is offline Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of Everett WA
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    Thanks Kimster! I noticed also teeth seem like a good possible match...and knowing the area and its inclimate weather its not a far stretch to imagine a lost hunter falling into a ravine in the middle of the night.
    'Nothing clears up a case so much as stating it to another person.'

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    How would someone go from Tillamook county forest to a Polk county ravine on foot? That seems like a really long walk.

    Then again, that's assuming that he got lost and was roaming aimlessly through the woods.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmaliLucia View Post
    How would someone go from Tillamook county forest to a Polk county ravine on foot? That seems like a really long walk.

    Then again, that's assuming that he got lost and was roaming aimlessly through the woods.
    I can't imagine it either. The foliage is so thick that you couldn't even go in a straight line, on top of it all!

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    kpdx is offline Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of Everett WA
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    Its actually only about a seven to eight hour walk as the crow flies, based on where he was last seen. The UID was found really close to the Highway by Valley Junction.

    I did a couple 3D fly bys and with all the logging roads its really not as inconceivable as it sounds...

    Especially if you started walking about six or seven and were trying to stay warm.
    'Nothing clears up a case so much as stating it to another person.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtallcold View Post
    NamUs page: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8750

    Estimated age Adult - Pre 40
    Minimum age 25 years
    Maximum age 40 years
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 70, Estimated

    Probable year of death 2010 to 2011
    Estimated postmortem interval 1 Years

    Rule Outs:
    Russell Gonzales 1964 Oregon
    Christopher Mann 1984 North Dakota
    Kevin Nordquist 1967 Oregon
    Mansoor Riaz 1979 Washington
    Samuel Stefonek 1980 Washington
    Robertson Winters 1985 Oregon

    I have 2 maybes after searching...

    David Mekvold
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...se_information

    Charles Farley
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13879/0/

    *I know age is off with Farley - but his truck was found 60 miles away
    Apparently Charles Farlay has been located https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ho...s?reason=found

    The UID's profile is still available, though, so I guess it wasn't him. There are some more ruleouts on the list, though:

    John Biesen 1970 Oregon
    Jason Franks 1980 Oregon
    STEVEN FRICK 1965 Oregon
    Russell Gonzales 1964 Oregon
    Donnell Love 1964 Oregon
    Christopher Mann 1984 North Dakota
    Kevin Nordquist 1967 Oregon
    Mansoor Riaz 1979 Washington
    Jerry Smith 1951 Oregon
    Samuel Stefonek 1980 Washington
    Robertson Winters 1985 Oregon

    And here's where the body was found, roughly: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=8...=prev&t=m&z=14
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Permission Error on Namus page

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8750



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