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    Bin Laden Dead #2

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/04...en-was-hiding/

    Military expert: Pakistan must have known where Osama bin Laden was hiding


    Pakistani Police guard the sealed main gate of the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Tuesday, May 3, 2011

    ...Based on those years of knowledge, she is convinced the military knew bin Laden was there. That he was hiding near Pakistan's military academy in Abbottabad is the strongest clue, she says.

    In a society where the military and intelligence agencies keep tabs on its citizens, Pakistan would not allow anyone living so close to its elite military academy to go unexamined, she says....


    IMO, it's obvious they knew. They may have been afraid of becoming targets if they turned Bin Laden over.

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    Oh, they knew. Pakistan is famous for playing both ends against the middle. I think the US needs to cut off the billion or two a year that we give them. Maybe that will bring them around to the correct way of thinking about the Taliban and Al Queda.
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    No doubt in my mind they knew he was there.

    And if we would have told them we were gonna raid, he would not have been there.
    They have tipped him off several times before.

    IMO the reason he felt so safe there for YEARS is because he thought he would be warned before anybody stepped foot on that compound.

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    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - UPDATE- Bin Laden is Dead-President spoke

    Post brought over from last thread I posted before I realized this one was open.



    Originally Posted by Emma Peel
    IMO, this photo will win photo of the decade. If there is such a thing. Regardless, it's likely going down in History as one of the great documented historic moments in US History.

    What a photo. Such focus and tension.

    The shot of Hilary says it all.

    They were holding their breaths hoping against hope that we got our target without any US casualties.



    Not taking anything from this photo, because I do think it is a great photo.

    But, I heard on the radio this morning that Hill Clinton said she was most likely not reacting to what she saw/heard but she was probably trying to hold in a "spring time allergy sneeze" (or did she say cough???).

    I'll see what I can find.

    I really think she should have left it alone and let people think she was reacting to the tension of the situation. Sounds much better than a sneeze or a cough.


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    http://www.postchronicle.com/news/br...12362776.shtml

    "I am somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs. So it may have no great meaning whatsoever," Clinton added.



    http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpps/news/p...11-jgr_3802065

    "I am somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs," she said. "So, it may have no great meaning whatsoever."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125 View Post
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - UPDATE- Bin Laden is Dead-President spoke

    Post brought over from last thread I posted before I realized this one was open.



    Originally Posted by Emma Peel
    IMO, this photo will win photo of the decade. If there is such a thing. Regardless, it's likely going down in History as one of the great documented historic moments in US History.

    What a photo. Such focus and tension.

    The shot of Hilary says it all.

    They were holding their breaths hoping against hope that we got our target without any US casualties.



    Not taking anything from this photo, because I do think it is a great photo.

    But, I heard on the radio this morning that Hill Clinton said she was most likely not reacting to what she saw/heard but she was probably trying to hold in a "spring time allergy sneeze" (or did she say cough???).

    I'll see what I can find.

    I really think she should have left it alone and let people think she was reacting to the tension of the situation. Sounds much better than a sneeze or a cough.


    ETA: Links

    http://www.postchronicle.com/news/br...12362776.shtml

    "I am somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs. So it may have no great meaning whatsoever," Clinton added.



    http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpps/news/p...11-jgr_3802065

    "I am somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs," she said. "So, it may have no great meaning whatsoever."
    and ... here is the rest of her quote about the photograph - same source.

    "Those were 38 of the most intense minutes," Clinton said of the raid on bin Laden's compound by U.S. Navy SEALs. "I have no idea what any of us were looking at at that particular millisecond when the picture was taken."
    She makes a good point - I bet she's even tougher to ruffle than she used to be.
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    I think everything we're hearing from the media is speculation. They just debriefed the team and I doubt if anything has been released. I can only speculate just like everyone else, but I think Secretary Clinton was reacting to the helicopter crash. That could have been the end to it all. It is a good photo, and a lot of eye witnesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tezi View Post
    Oh, they knew. Pakistan is famous for playing both ends against the middle. I think the US needs to cut off the billion or two a year that we give them. Maybe that will bring them around to the correct way of thinking about the Taliban and Al Queda.
    We can't completely cut them off, I think we should not give them any more weapons at all. We should continue to help them rebuild schools for the children and hospitals for the sick and wounded. We need to keep verbal relationships open with their government, and continue to let them know that if they harbor terrorist in their country, that we will step in if needed and whatever is needed to be done will be.
    It's almost been a year since we did our last show.Jay Bush my partner has been auditioning for the show Shark Tank and so this has put the show on hold. If he gets on Shark Tank, we will be terribly delayed. Good luck Jay. Either way we will one day continue the show and have the coolest global independent radio station out there. This is just a small video we did with one of our artists.Waiting for One and their tune 35 years. Check it out.
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    I think this may have already been brought up, but photos were released of some other dudes (blood, gore, and all). What's the diff in seeing OBL's photo? Why is the US holding him to a higher standard.

    Don't get it - don't get it at all.

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    http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound

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    Quote Originally Posted by tezi View Post
    Oh, they knew. Pakistan is famous for playing both ends against the middle. I think the US needs to cut off the billion or two a year that we give them. Maybe that will bring them around to the correct way of thinking about the Taliban and Al Queda.
    I agree they knew (or at least some of them), but the billions we send them aren't a gift. We're paying for fly-over access to support our troops in Afghanistan. And to prop up the unpopular military dictatorship that rules Pakistan and provides a counterbalance to Iran.

    We know the Pakistanis can't be trusted; that's why we didn't tell them about the raid in advance. But Pakistan is our proxy in that part of the world and we don't have a substitute.

    (Trust me: we don't send billions to Islamabad out of love.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgardner View Post
    I think this may have already been brought up, but photos were released of some other dudes (blood, gore, and all). What's the diff in seeing OBL's photo? Why is the US holding him to a higher standard.

    Don't get it - don't get it at all.

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    http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
    I think it is just that, the Bin Laden family are very influential in Saudi Arabia, we do hold him to a higher standard.
    It's almost been a year since we did our last show.Jay Bush my partner has been auditioning for the show Shark Tank and so this has put the show on hold. If he gets on Shark Tank, we will be terribly delayed. Good luck Jay. Either way we will one day continue the show and have the coolest global independent radio station out there. This is just a small video we did with one of our artists.Waiting for One and their tune 35 years. Check it out.
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    "As of February 2010, al-Qa'ida was allegedly contemplating conducting an operation against trains at an unspecified location in the United States on the 10th anniversary of September 11, 2001," the document reads, using an alternate spelling for bin Laden's terror group. "As one option, al-Qa'ida was looking into trying to tip a train by tampering with the rails so that the train would fall off the track at either a valley or a bridge."
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-...ry?id=13536789

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgardner View Post
    I think this may have already been brought up, but photos were released of some other dudes (blood, gore, and all). What's the diff in seeing OBL's photo? Why is the US holding him to a higher standard.

    Don't get it - don't get it at all.

    WARNING = GRAPHIC!

    http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
    I'm not sure but I think the Pakistani government is the one who released the photos of the other men. Not the US military.

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    A senior U.S. official said the U.S. has been denied access to bin Laden's wife because she needs medical attention. The official characterized that as a stalling tactic. Asked about the U.S. request to see bin Laden's wife, a senior Pakistani security official told ABC News, "With what face can they ask that now?"

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/young-...ry?id=13525087

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    I'm not sure but I think the Pakistani government is the one who released the photos of the other men. Not the US military.
    Yes, that appears to be true. A Pakistani security official who requested anonymity sold the photos to Reuters who published them:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7437KK20110504

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    Quote Originally Posted by epiphany View Post
    Yes, that appears to be true. A Pakistani security official who requested anonymity sold the photos to Reuters who published them:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7437KK20110504
    That would make sense that the Pakistanis wouldn't have a picture of OBL dead because he wasn't there. His body was on it's way to the ocean.
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