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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    This needs more attention than it was given. Not too long ago, four bodies (plus a fifth person's head) were found in the Pine Barrens around Manorville. Two were female, two were male. One of the male victims was strangled. one of the female victims was a 20 year old PROSTITUTE. Both female bodies were butchered and their heads were missing.

    How can this NOT be in the news or a hot topic and considered to be a major link to to the Gilgo body cases?

    Is this another Serial Killer or is it the same person who simply switched his dumping grounds to avoid getting caught?


    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/ny...anted=2&src=pm

    http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/...serial-killer/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaslug44 View Post
    This needs more attention than it was given. Not too long ago, four bodies (plus a fifth person's head) were found in the Pine Barrens around Manorville. Two were female, two were male. One of the male victims was strangled. one of the female victims was a 20 year old PROSTITUTE. Both female bodies were butchered and their heads were missing.

    How can this NOT be in the news or a hot topic and considered to be a major link to to the Gilgo body cases?

    Is this another Serial Killer or is it the same person who simply switched his dumping grounds to avoid getting caught?


    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/ny...anted=2&src=pm

    http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/...serial-killer/
    You got it right seaslug! One of the skulls was just identified as Jessica Taylor's, a manorville vic. Wow, it's a whole new ballgame now...

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    OMG I just got chills.

    http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/...s_8457398.html

    A prosecutor says human remains that have been found along a New York beach highway - including the head of a prostitute missing since 2003 - are the work of at least two killers.


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    It just hit Newsday- MORE THAN ONE KILLER!


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    Just so I have this right:
    Killer 1: 4 burlap-wrapped sex workers who advertised on Craig's List
    Killer 2: 2 dismembered women left in Manorville; their hands, feet & head left on Gilgo beach
    Killer 3: Asian man
    Killer 4: Toddler girl
    ?

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    T-Rex that what I got??? the first I heard about Asian man? he just don't fit?

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    so remains found at

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    on Suffolk County's barrier beaches, and two sets of body parts found there in April match remains discovered in Manorville in 2000 and 2003, law enforcement officials said.

    So remains found in April matchs other remains found at Manorville?
    two dumping ground same body? some one needs to clear this up for me ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfrohning View Post
    T-Rex that what I got??? the first I heard about Asian man? he just don't fit?
    He might if he was a male escort dressed as a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfrohning View Post
    so remains found at

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    on Suffolk County's barrier beaches, and two sets of body parts found there in April match remains discovered in Manorville in 2000 and 2003, law enforcement officials said.

    So remains found in April matchs other remains found at Manorville?
    two dumping ground same body? some one needs to clear this up for me ???
    Yes, of the more recent SIX sets of remains found, I believe one on Mar 29th and then one other set found on April 4th, each were body parts from two separate Manorville victims whose torsos were found in the woods near the LIE. One set matched up with Jessica Taylor's torso and the other set matches up with a woman's torso, found in Mannorville that has to this day not been ID'd.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/ny...anted=2&src=pm

    "Four days later, hunters found a second body just inside the tree line on the south side of the expressway between exits 68 and 69. That body was male, intact and clothed. Crushed neck bones were ''not accidental,'' Lieutenant Fitzpatrick said. The victim had been dead for about three weeks, was white or Hispanic, 20 to 30 years old, about 5-foot-6 and 130 to 150 pounds, and had black hair, he said.

    On July 26, 2003, a woman walking her dog, again near Halsey Manor Road and the expressway, found a second female body -- also white or Hispanic, no taller than 5-foot-5 and under 125 pounds -- an estimated week after she died. She was between 20 and 30 years old. Unlike the first female body, this one was left in the open, on a paved access road to a sump. But like the first female, this victim was nude, decapitated and had her hands chopped off. Detectives later released photos of part of a wing tattoo near her right kidney and a purple and silver decal on one of her toenails." (This one was ID'd as Jessica Taylor.)


    On Nov. 10, mushroom pickers found the body of a male, intact but in an advanced stage of decomposition. Like the first male, this one was also dumped just south of the expressway, but 11 miles east of the first. The victim was Caucasian, 35 to 50 years old, about 5-foot-6 and had died up to four months earlier."

    Note all of the men and the man found on OP are petite men. No more than 5'6".


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    Re:http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/...rial-killer/3/

    "Taylor was an upstate New York native, last seen on the streets of Manhattan, working near the Port Authority Bus Terminal, the week before her body was found, according to police reports. She had been arrested for prostitution in Atlantic City, New York and D.C., where she had just relocated from that same month. Little else is known about Taylor; she was estranged from her family. She had been working near the Port Authority Bus Terminal between July 18-21, an area once known as the Minnesota Strip—a term coined by cops in the ’70s because that stretch of Eighth Avenue between 42nd and 50th Streets was known for prostitution, and when Minnesota passed tough anti-prostitution laws, many women left for the streets of NYC."

    Commonalities of Jessica Taylor with the December Four Gilgo Beach (wrapped in Burlap):
    She worked as a prostitute
    Was last known to be working near the Port Authority
    Parts of her were disposed of on the OP and within a mile of the Four December CL women.
    She was found in an area where FOUR BODIES were disposed of. She was one of the four.
    She disappeared in JULY!
    She was petite.
    She was a brunette.
    She actually resembles ALC and MBB. Brown hair and greenish blue eyes.


    From the same article: "If you live here and you knew the woods, you wouldn’t pull over and leave [a body] practically on the side of the road,” says Danny, adamant that the “Butcher of Manorville” is a butcher from somewhere else. “Unless you want it to be found.”

    Her torso was dumped just to the side of the road in plain sight.

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    so it safe to say Manorviller killer is the same has Gilo beach killer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
    From the same article: "If you live here and you knew the woods, you wouldn’t pull over and leave [a body] practically on the side of the road,” says Danny, adamant that the “Butcher of Manorville” is a butcher from somewhere else. “Unless you want it to be found.”

    Her torso was dumped just to the side of the road in plain sight.
    Well, yes and no... From the article her body was found by a woman walking her dog... from what I can tell, somewhere in this location.

    "On a Saturday morning in the summer of 2003, a woman walking her dog down Halsey Manor Road, near the Long Island Expressway overpass, took a turn down a small paved road leading to a gated sump on one side, and lined by the Pine Barrens on the other." ( link)

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...5,0.00176&z=20

    I could be wrong on the location... but from the description, this area does have a paved road going off Halsey Manor Road, a fenced area, and is right off LIE. If the above map is correct, it seems a lot less "in plain sight" than the spokesperson claims. Also, the other woman's body was found in the woods. Again, and imho, hardly "in plain sight."



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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post
    Just so I have this right:
    Killer 1: 4 burlap-wrapped sex workers who advertised on Craig's List
    Killer 2: 2 dismembered women left in Manorville; their hands, feet & head left on Gilgo beach
    Killer 3: Asian man
    Killer 4: Toddler girl
    ?
    The toddler has not been ruled a homicide. The DA's statement has caused the media to report that yes, there are at least three killers.

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    I've been scouring the missing persons pages from 2000, which was when the unidentified woman was found in manorville (November 200)and came up with this, and she fits the description of the body plus or minus a couple of inches and a couple of pounds. Its possible since her body was dismembered the estimated height was a little off,the age range kinda fits too, because she looks a little younger in the photographs than she actually was.
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...t_lourdes.html

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