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    Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
    Wonder if LE actually found Remy (as in actually interviewed him or her) or just found out who he/she was. Could he/she be one of the UID victims?
    Remy is actually the name of a dog. There is a line of Pitbulls called Remyline and they are from this dog. It looks like Remy's Angels are the girls that pose or work with the dogs for shows... Maybe Jessica worked for Remy's owner at one time... loved the dogs and the lineage so much she got a tattoo... and then had a falling out with him... There is an "off shoot" of this lineage in NY called Remyline The Firm... I would think that if they can do dna testing for dog breeds/lineage then they should be able to tell if the dogs found in Manorville came from this sire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi93 View Post
    Remy is actually the name of a dog. There is a line of Pitbulls called Remyline and they are from this dog. It looks like Remy's Angels are the girls that pose or work with the dogs for shows... Maybe Jessica worked for Remy's owner at one time... loved the dogs and the lineage so much she got a tattoo... and then had a falling out with him... There is an "off shoot" of this lineage in NY called Remyline The Firm... I would think that if they can do dna testing for dog breeds/lineage then they should be able to tell if the dogs found in Manorville came from this sire.

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    What are you basing that on?

    What makes you so sure that that is the same "Remy"?

    LE has said that Remy was an acquaintance of hers. Plus according to the Remyline website Remy didn't sire his first puppy until 2004. Which is the year after she was killed.

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    and both Remyline Kennels the Remy's Angel's from the website appear to be located in CA
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    This is an intriguing link I found on the Remyline site:

    http://www.theeliteedge.com/

    More women and dogs. The guys in the pictures don't look like boy scouts or conventional dog breeders. The dogs ears have been cropped. There is one really heart-breaking picture of a sad pit bull.

    I am still sleuthing along these lines (no pun intended).
    Last edited by Redbird; 05-16-2011 at 12:24 PM. Reason: punctuation and spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    What are you basing that on?

    What makes you so sure that that is the same "Remy"?

    LE has said that Remy was an acquaintance of hers. Plus according to the Remyline website Remy didn't sire his first puppy until 2004. Which is the year after she was killed.

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    and both Remyline Kennels the Remy's Angel's from the website appear to be located in CA
    No, I'm not sure that it's the same Remy... I'm just putting out possibilities.

    Yes, from my research Remy and his owners live in CA. And, as I said, there is an "off shoot" in the state of New York... I'm sure it was the Bronx but can't find the link at the moment. Here is the link to his website. I'm not saying that any of the companies I've mentioned have anything to do with this. I just find that their Angels logo, their name and the fact that there were Pitbull bodies found in the area where Jessica was found is a little too much of a coincidence for me. It may be nothing, but I think it's worth looking into. Besides, when has LE been perfectly honest with the media, and the media reported it absolutely correct?

    Also, just because Remy didn't sire his first puppy until 2004 doesn't mean that it wasn't in the works from the day that dog was born. It looks like he had a really good lineage and was probably purchased with breeding in mind.

    btw... I'm basing this on the research I've done looking into the various lineages of pitbulls. The dogs, their owners... to see if I can find a connection with anything we know about this case...

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    Sorry it sounded like you were stating a fact instead of an opinion.

    I just don't see any connection at all. It really seems like a stretch to me

    AFAIK there has never been any mention of her and pitbulls.

    She had a Remy tattoo, 6 years after she was killed some dead pitbulls were dumped in the same town, and there is a pitbull in CA with the name Remy

    Maybe it seems strange to because I've live on LI most of my life. But whenever there is any type of news story on LI people try to connect it to the SK case. Dead maid killed by her bf, house exploding from a gas leak, home invasions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nugzter View Post
    Yep blows my theory out of the water. What other reasons could a killer have to remove tattoos? And why then would the same SK remove tattoos from one victim and not the others?
    Logic tells me if they remove a tattoo to make an ID harder, then the tattoo would tie the killer to the victim. Hmmmm. I need to brain storm over tis for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    Sorry it sounded like you were stating a fact instead of an opinion.

    I just don't see any connection at all. It really seems like a stretch to me

    AFAIK there has never been any mention of her and pitbulls.

    She had a Remy tattoo, 6 years after she was killed some dead pitbulls were dumped in the same town, and there is a pitbull in CA with the name Remy

    Maybe it seems strange to because I've live on LI most of my life. But whenever there is any type of news story on LI people try to connect it to the SK case. Dead maid killed by her bf, house exploding from a gas leak, home invasions....
    The "dead maid" was shot in the head in the middle of LI and she worked at a MOTEL that has been cited as a place to get escorts, meet call girls and get HJs and BJs. Her supposed BF was 38 and has a warrant out on him from Virginia and she was 62 years old. The BF could have been involved in shady aspects of business at the MOTEL and she could very easily have been a witness to something that she was not meant to see. Her BF might be innocent of killing her.

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    Has anyone read the official COD for JT or the UID? It would be a good to know fact.

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    I am starting to try and find info on this poor young girl. Has anyone found an obituary? I am guessing from conflicting reports of her dob either 1983/1986. It is so sad she has no one to speak for her. I also read she was from a small town Upstate,NY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    For me this is shaping up to be two killers, the GB4 serial killer and the Manorville gang murders. Gang involved in prostitution, pit bull fighting, drugs. Killed gang members who weren't performing or whatever. Remy's Angel tattoo removed to prevent id of both victim and killer. This group also probably connected to disappearance of the guy from West Islip who went missing along with his pit bull in July 2010. He may have encountered a gang member in a park where a fight ensued. We need to sleuth Remy's Angels more.
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    Do we have a thread on the Remyline thing? Anyone ever heard of Razors edge pits?

    http://www.lowcountrypits.com/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulmagent View Post
    Do we have a thread on the Remyline thing? Anyone ever heard of Razors edge pits?

    http://www.lowcountrypits.com/index.html
    It was discussed in this thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...light=remyline

    According to what I found the Remyline didn't even exist when JT was killed and the Remy from the tattoo was a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the quiet girl View Post
    I am starting to try and find info on this poor young girl. Has anyone found an obituary? I am guessing from conflicting reports of her dob either 1983/1986. It is so sad she has no one to speak for her. I also read she was from a small town Upstate,NY.
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    Good morning quiet girl!

    I have been searching for info on JT and found this.

    http://assets.longislandpress.com/ph...gazimage=13957

    Jessica Taylor
    DOB- 6-17-83

    Reported missing from Brooklyn, NY

    Last seen in Manhatten, NY on Monday, 7-21-03

    White/Female, 5ft 3inches, 125 lbs.
    Brown Hair/Green Eyes

    Discovered 7-26-03/Manorville
    3-29-11/CedarBeach

    Weather conditions for date disappeared.

    http://www.wunderground.com/history/...theprefvalue=0

    The group poster at the first link has really small print. I held ctrl and + (three or four times) to enlarge.

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    I was reading through this just now, I didn't hear about this case till like two days ago and I hadn't logged on WS for ages. I had a few thoughts though as you will see others already came up with most of it.

    First off I think that JT has to be linked to the others because of the fact that her head and hands were found within a mile or two of the other four girls. What are the odds that two totally unrelated killers are working and just happen to randomly be dumping body parts within a mile of each other. In my opinion it's unreasonable to suggest that this is just coincidence. If you think about how often body parts are found off the side of the road, even in this highly populated area, the statistical odds of this being a coincidence is basically zero.

    I agree with what has been said about JT being a "street walker", but as someone pointed out earlier she was killed in 2003 at that time there was not the huge booming business of online escorts that there is today and craigslist may not have even existed. So itís much more likely that he would be picking up streetwalkers at that time. I also think girls on craigslist are sort of considered to be the modern day equivalent of street walkers or if not then only one step up from street walkers.

    I think JT was an early on victim, at this time he was much more careful, but he has now grown bolder as he has continued to get away with it. He may also feel his current MO puts him less at risk so he is less worried.

    I think itís clear that the tattoo defacing was to hide her identity; proof positive is that he also beheaded her and cut off her hands clearly in an effort to hide her identity. Why? Because he likely picked her up off the street where it might have been seen, and he likely frequented that area picking up prostitutes many of which he did not kill. Therefore he was worried that if she was identified there might be a slight chance that it could be traced back to him. He was also aware that when there is a killing like this and the body is unidentified the case never goes anywhere.

    Another possibility - He most likely brought the ones he dismembered back to his residence or some other place he knew he would be alone for some period of time. Since this time his living situation may have changed such that he no longer lives alone, or no longer has access to the space he was using.

    Lastly Iím usually a big supporter of LE and always give them the benefit of the doubt, but some of the stuff I've reading on this case so far is utterly ridiculous. They are clearly advancing the theories that will bring the least attention to the case in hopes that things will die down b/c this is going to end up being a difficult one to solve.

    The only sensible thing I've heard was from some expert who worked at john jay college (don't remember his name or which article), and I think this is the key to this case. There are bound to have been girls he was with that he tired to harm but they got away, or he was planning to harm as thus acting unusually but then he decided not to, or women who have experienced a client that has tried to lure them out late at night without a "driver" with the promise of a big pay day. One of these girls remembering something about this guy and coming forward is what could break this case, and I don't really see what else could. They don't really have anything to go on.

    The psychological profilers work hard and can be helpful, but please remember that they have ended up quite off the mark in more than one case. There is no amount of psychological witchcraft that can trump the cold hard fact that her hands and head were found within a mile of the other girls. This has to be the work of the same guy.

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    doh i just read that in november of 2011 the police started putting out that they did believe [the obvious] that Manorville killings to be related so that would make most of my post irrelevant, sorry.

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