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    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    Sure, when there's a crime. At this point, to paraphrase Stalin,: "No Man, No problem".
    I guess we're kind of going around in circles on this one. I think when you determine someone is a walkaway right off the bat, and they still haven't been heard from in almost two years, you might be interested in taking another approach.

    Las Vegas PD has a detective dedicated strictly to finding and clearing these cases. Some are found alive, some are found dead. But none of these families would have answers without this lone detective spending his time finding people. Should we just treat every adult who disappears without a trace as a walkaway and then forget about them? Crimes are found through investigation. Families get closure through investigation. Questions are answered...

    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    Only if someone can read the mind of the person who parked it. Otherwise for all people know is there's been a white car parked in front of my place for X days now.
    Exactly. That's against the rules in this neighborhood, and most HOA controlled neighborhoods in Las Vegas. Parking on the street would draw attention. In another neighborhood, perhaps in downtown LV, it wouldn't. That's all I'm saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but it seems like SK might have been able to compartmentalize his various circles or to put it more intriguingly, have associations/interests his family/friends weren't aware of. I'd be willing to bet that no one in his regular family/friends have any clue whom he was meeting.
    I disagree. There's just no evidence of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    Do we know that LE hasn't already looked into all this?
    Based on the fact that I sent LE something regarding this case that was apparently news to them, I question how deep the investigation has gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    I would imagine that depends on the availability of resources at the time. That's why I'm having an RFID radio embedded in my son...
    I'm currently lobbying for RFID to be implanted into every newborn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by swjaxon View Post
    I guess we're kind of going around in circles on this one. I think when you determine someone is a walkaway right off the bat, and they still haven't been heard from in almost two years, you might be interested in taking another approach.

    Las Vegas PD has a detective dedicated strictly to finding and clearing these cases. Some are found alive, some are found dead. But none of these families would have answers without this lone detective spending his time finding people. Should we just treat every adult who disappears without a trace as a walkaway and then forget about them? Crimes are found through investigation. Families get closure through investigation. Questions are answered...
    Indeed (again).

    Quote Originally Posted by swjaxon View Post
    Exactly. That's against the rules in this neighborhood, and most HOA controlled neighborhoods in Las Vegas. Parking on the street would draw attention. In another neighborhood, perhaps in downtown LV, it wouldn't. That's all I'm saying.
    True - not to mention many, many neighborhoods around the city, as well as casinos/resorts, shopping centers, etc. IIRC, last year they found the remains of a fellow in Red Rock Canyon whose car went unnoticed in the parking area of the Silverton Casino for many months.

    Then again, it has been argued that Steven wanted his car to be found ASAP.

    Quote Originally Posted by swjaxon View Post
    I disagree. There's just no evidence of that.
    So true. No evidence, whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by swjaxon View Post
    Based on the fact that I sent LE something regarding this case that was apparently news to them, I question how deep the investigation has gone.
    Sadly, again true. They seem to have focused entirely on looking for evidence pointing to someone no one knew Steven knew. As opposed to those he did know. Doesn't LE usually look at those closest to the missing or deceased? I don't believe they have done that in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by swjaxon View Post
    I'm currently lobbying for RFID to be implanted into every newborn.
    Don't see this ever happening, but I WISH!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kjliss View Post
    more thinking out loud. Speaks to his dad on the 9th, hangs up on dad (I assume this is out of character since he is so often described as polite and nice) and within a matter of hours is on his way on a road trip. I was just playing with yahoo maps and going from st george to salt lake to west wendover to ruby valley is not a direct route at all. According to yahoo it is 663.59 miles and 11hrs 48 mins. If you take out SLC and west wendover then it is 334 miles and 7 hrs 27 minutes. Another thing to make you wonder about. Why waste the extra time and gas money going more than 300 miles out of the way unless the point of the trip was to head towards salt lake for some reason. The receipts do not support 334 mile route, but most people choose the most direct route when they want to get somewhere. What was in Wendover or ruby valley? Also how in the world did anyone make a 1100 mile trip on what seems like no sleep at all in such a short period of time....
    IICR, that trip seems to have started at the END of the day, as well. My husband has driven 1200 miles in one day, but he started early in the morning and was exhausted by the end of it. I know that we don't have any actual evidence of this, but it seems to me likely that there IS a component of SK's life that his family/close friends didn't know about -perhaps a friend or potential business partner, whatever- and that is why this is such a mystery. His manic traveling really wasn't manic -he had a driving partner, and he was going to meet someone in SCA, either the driving partner or someone connected to that part of his life that, for whatever reason, wasn't known to the others. Again, it's hard to follow something like this because of the very fact that that person(s) aren't known, but I just wonder if it explains some things. From what I understand about SK, I do think that it's certainly possible that he had "other people", "another person", etc. in his life that he didn't tell the others about. It needn't indicate anything nefarious, only that he had several, distinct, areas of his life which didn't overlap. If we think about it, many of us do, I think, especially when we are adult singles, living away from family and friends. Nothing nefarious; simply part of life.

    I also know that there seem to be some questions surrounding those people who we all know about, but not having anything more to go on with regard to these people, I'm just starting to consider different possibilities. I know, I know, no evidence to follow, no suggestion in his computer, phone records, etc., but we also know he used the library (which computers can't be checked) and also there is that very long driving expedition, which doesn't seem to leave any reasonable amount of time for sleeping. Any thoughts?


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    With all possibilities open for what happened to Steven, this article is interesting. Family is shocked and there was a six month investigation, something that I wish would have happened in Steven's case.

    http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/2...7/-1/kamloops/


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    http://www.sfexaminer.com/news/calif...nd-yolo-county

    Wanted to share this article from the Sacramento Bee yesterday. I don't recall if this man was one of the unidentified cases we discussed a while back, but I'm sharing it nevertheless.


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    Haven't posted here in ages,but I do read. Everyone here is so dedicated, it's great... IMO the one unusual thing about SK is that he is bilingual in Brazilian Portugese. It's not a language well known to most Americans, and it sets him apart, MOO. I'm thinking that his disappearance is somehow connected to a person or persons he met in the Brazilian immigrant community in and around Vegas.

    The Brazilian immigrant community in Vegas and Nevada has grown exponentially in this last decade.So much so that the Brazilian government has opened a Consular office in Vegas. Brazilian immigrants work both in the city and as farm workers in small towns in the state ; a lot depends on their immigration status, this seems to dictate what they do for a living...

    It looks to be a very tight knit community, and if anyone had seen SK,or knew what happened to him, I'm not sure they would be forthcoming... MOO

    I'm not at all downgrading Brazilians or immigrants, it is a theory, and MOO...


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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    Haven't posted here in ages,but I do read. Everyone here is so dedicated, it's great... IMO the one unusual thing about SK is that he is bilingual in Brazilian Portugese. It's not a language well known to most Americans, and it sets him apart, MOO. I'm thinking that his disappearance is somehow connected to a person or persons he met in the Brazilian immigrant community in and around Vegas.

    The Brazilian immigrant community in Vegas and Nevada has grown exponentially in this last decade.So much so that the Brazilian government has opened a Consular office in Vegas. Brazilian immigrants work both in the city and as farm workers in small towns in the state ; a lot depends on their immigration status, this seems to dictate what they do for a living...

    It looks to be a very tight knit community, and if anyone had seen SK,or knew what happened to him, I'm not sure they would be forthcoming... MOO

    I'm not at all downgrading Brazilians or immigrants, it is a theory, and MOO...
    I don't know if these means anything, but this comment prompted this thought: My husband is fluent in Brazilian Portuguese and, consequently, gets along very well in Spanish. He talks to Mexicans and Puerto Ricans all the time and could do quite well, I think, living around only Spanish speakers (although, I'm sure he makes many, many language mistakes; nonetheless, it's amazing how well he's able to communicate with Spanish speakers, knowing only Portuguese.) Hmmmm.

    -And, another note: Anyone notice how many Brazilians have emmigrated to the US in recent years? I'll bet the Las Vegas area is FULL of Spanish/Portuguese speakers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fridaybaker View Post
    And, another note: Anyone notice how many Brazilians have emmigrated to the US in recent years? I'll bet the Las Vegas area is FULL of Spanish/Portuguese speakers.
    A few Brazilian, give or take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weygand View Post
    A few Brazilian, give or take?
    Hehehehe..... Very clever!

    Truly, though, rather than just looking at the possibility of Sk absconding to Brazil or something, the comment about his being bilingual does bring up the notion that he certainly would fit into any latin based language speaking community quite easily. He's fluent with both a latin-based language and culture as well. Still don't know, though. The more time passes the more I'm inclined to believe foul play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fridaybaker View Post
    Hehehehe..... Very clever!

    Truly, though, rather than just looking at the possibility of Sk absconding to Brazil or something, the comment about his being bilingual does bring up the notion that he certainly would fit into any latin based language speaking community quite easily. He's fluent with both a latin-based language and culture as well. Still don't know, though. The more time passes the more I'm inclined to believe foul play.
    I never thought SK had gone to Brazil. I think he may have become involved with a person,or persons from the Brazilian community in and around Vegas. IMO Foul play is a very real possibility. MOO


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    An eerily similar case popped up recently, David Miller (NV NV - David Miller - age 27- Las Vegas - 4-Sep-2011 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community)

    He lives in Cedar City (an hour away from St George)
    Last seen in Las Vegas
    Car found parked in Henderson (one exit away from where Steven Koechers cell phone last pinged near Russell Rd)
    He is LDS
    Both went missing on a Sunday
    Similar height/build
    possibly distraught/depressive/going through a rough patch

    Could the two cases possibly be related?
    Here's a link to David Millers f/b for more info:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-F...22444347857536
    Last edited by KateB; 04-26-2015 at 12:42 PM. Reason: repair url tag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kjliss View Post
    An eerily similar case popped up recently, David Miller (NV NV - David Miller - age 27- Las Vegas - 4-Sep-2011 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community)

    He lives in Cedar City (an hour away from St George)
    Last seen in Las Vegas
    Car found parked in Henderson (one exit away from where Steven Koechers cell phone last pinged near Russell Rd)
    He is LDS
    Both went missing on a Sunday
    Similar height/build
    possibly distraught/depressive/going through a rough patch

    Could the two cases possibly be related?
    Here's a link to David Millers f/b for more info:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-F...22444347857536
    I noted this too. some interesting similarities... MOO


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    Hi Liz b! Yes, I probably wasn't very clear in my post. Instead of responding to your (the pertinent post!) it brought up in my mind a theory that was batted around some early on -that he voluntarily "disappeared" to Brazil so I just started writing my thoughts about those earlier posts; then, forgot all about your post that prompted my thoughts. Argh! All I can say is that it's a good thing I'm only an "armchair" detective; my thought train is waaay too all over the place for anyone to actually have to depend on it!

    As far as foul play, it just really stretches (my) imagination that someone in this age of connectivity and such an "identification" oriented society could stay under the radar for so long. If he were running, maybe, but there sure doesn't seem to be anything at all to point to that. If he just wanted a change in lifestyle, it seems to me that at some point he'd contact SOMEONE. When I look at his photo, though, it's hard to comprehend that he was the victim of foul play. He seems like such a kind "mainstream" kind of a guy -could be your next-door neighbor. What activity or in what company could a guy like this fall into that would lead there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fridaybaker View Post
    Hi Liz b! Yes, I probably wasn't very clear in my post. Instead of responding to your (the pertinent post!) it brought up in my mind a theory that was batted around some early on -that he voluntarily "disappeared" to Brazil so I just started writing my thoughts about those earlier posts; then, forgot all about your post that prompted my thoughts. Argh! All I can say is that it's a good thing I'm only an "armchair" detective; my thought train is waaay too all over the place for anyone to actually have to depend on it!

    As far as foul play, it just really stretches (my) imagination that someone in this age of connectivity and such an "identification" oriented society could stay under the radar for so long. If he were running, maybe, but there sure doesn't seem to be anything at all to point to that. If he just wanted a change in lifestyle, it seems to me that at some point he'd contact SOMEONE. When I look at his photo, though, it's hard to comprehend that he was the victim of foul play. He seems like such a kind "mainstream" kind of a guy -could be your next-door neighbor. What activity or in what company could a guy like this fall into that would lead there?
    IMO SK is the kind of guy who is a) somewhat naive b) behind on his bills and c) looking to make some quick $$$$. Not a good combination.MOO...


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