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    Quote Originally Posted by draculette View Post
    Someone on this site (I can't remember who) Had posted a link to this article last week, in reference to police departments covering for their own in general. I'm posting it again because it may bear significance to the LI serial killings if we are to believe what the NY POST is reporting. This may be one of the cops they are looking at.
    http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/...-of-torture/7/
    I think we are talking about the same comment section of some article. This poster was giving very detailed info about the corruption in Suffolk County leadership.

    ETA: It is the same Peter but not the link I read from. I think one of our posters gave us a different link just to the comments as he is talking about the same things. I don't know what to make of it and what it could have to do with the LI SK ???

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    This article has been linked a couple of times in the forum & it keeps giving me pause about Brainard-Barnes....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2...supportgroup_1

    Cannís sister, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, had gone missing from her Manhattan hotel room nearly three years earlier, in July 2007. Police had subsequently linked her phone activity to a cell phone tower on Long Island. In 2008, police helicopters and cadaver dogs had scoured the same marshy, desolate area, but found no signs of Brainard-Barnes, a sweet-faced brunette with a passion for poetry.

    this is leading me to believe that the killer possibly kept her remains somewhere else for quite some time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    This article has been linked a couple of times in the forum & it keeps giving me pause about Brainard-Barnes....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2...supportgroup_1

    Cann’s sister, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, had gone missing from her Manhattan hotel room nearly three years earlier, in July 2007. Police had subsequently linked her phone activity to a cell phone tower on Long Island. In 2008, police helicopters and cadaver dogs had scoured the same marshy, desolate area, but found no signs of Brainard-Barnes, a sweet-faced brunette with a passion for poetry.

    this is leading me to believe that the killer possibly kept her remains somewhere else for quite some time....
    I can't tell if they mean the same area that they searched in 2007 or they mean the same area that she was found.

    I don't see why they would send cadaver dogs etc...to OP when her calls were traced to Massapequa unless they had some other information to go on.

    I reread and I guess the do mean OP. It seems weird that a year after she disappeared they would send cadaver dogs and helicopters to OP unless they had something to go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    I can't tell if they mean the same area that they searched in 2007 or they mean the same area that she was found.

    I don't see why they would send cadaver dogs etc...to OP when her calls were traced to Massapequa unless they had some other information to go on.

    I reread and I guess the do mean OP. It seems weird that a year after she disappeared they would send cadaver dogs and helicopters to OP unless they had something to go on.
    Good catch Dcgrumpy, Maybe it wasn't her they were looking for? But it is interesting to know that area was searched in 2007 and there were no burlap sacks there then, eh? I wonder if the SK knew LE searched there so thoroughly?

    I'm with you MrsPC in thinking he might have kept these bodies somewhere else for awhile and that stretch was on a road he used frequently which he zoned in on as the perfect layout for his conquests.

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    maybe the burlap sacks were not as visible at that time of year??

    were any of the burlap sacks found from an above ground search?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minazoe View Post
    maybe the burlap sacks were not as visible at that time of year??

    were any of the burlap sacks found from an above ground search?
    Also there would have only been one body in burlap from 2007. the others were '09, and 2 in '10.

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    Shannen Gilbert's Date in Manhattan

    Quote Originally Posted by ItalinBella27 View Post
    I'm surprised you didn't get your head bitten off for quoting the NY Post. I did on the last thread and was told it wasn't a reliable source. Thanks anyway for posting it.
    Some folks don't like the Post or FOXNEWS because they are owned by Rupert Murdoch. I have no problems with that. NY POST has been sued fewer times than the NY TIMES.

    I give the report some credence because of Shannen's reported date with a client in Manhattan, just before her driver took her out to Oak Beach. One of the cops in question works in Midtown. He could have followed her and her driver out to OB and waited in the shadows for her. Not hard to do for someone who's been on the force for years.

    Or, he could have looked at Shannen's phone while she was in the bathroom freshening up after their "date" and could have found the text giving the location of her next client, then decided to drive out there on his own.

    The cop theory makes a helluva lot more sense to me than blaming JB, MP, and dear old Gus Coletti, all of whom were attempting to help her.

    Or some starving artists who make creepy murals.

    It also explains to me why the driver said to Gus "She's in real trouble now because you called the police." (or words to that effect.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    I can't tell if they mean the same area that they searched in 2007 or they mean the same area that she was found.

    I don't see why they would send cadaver dogs etc...to OP when her calls were traced to Massapequa unless they had some other information to go on.

    I reread and I guess the do mean OP. It seems weird that a year after she disappeared they would send cadaver dogs and helicopters to OP unless they had something to go on.
    My thoughts exactly. Let's assume for a moment this information about searching OP for MBB was true. Let's say LE has some reason to connect MBB's disappearance to OP, they bring in helipcopters and cadaver dogs to look for her. But when SG goes missing from a gated community right off OP, after calling 911 and telling them someone was trying to kill her, LE doesn't think THAT is a big deal? Even though they had reason to search for the body of MBB in the very same area just a few years earlier? Where were the helicopters and cadaver dogs out searching the KNOWN area where SG went missing?

    Just doesn't make sense to me. To be honest, I've always doubted the story that LE searched for MBB on OP. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkhammer View Post
    "Two NYPD cops are being eyed in the Long Island serial slayings after investigators learned they got into trouble for hiring prostitutes while working for the department, according to sources familiar with the probe.
    One cop was forced out of the job in the 1990s when his supervisors learned he spent time pursuing hookers and paying street walkers and down-and-out women for sex while he was supposed to be on patrol.
    An internal investigation led to his resigning under pressure, one source said.

    The other officer still works for the NYPD but was stripped of his gun and badge years ago because he allegedly assaulted a prostitute and got arrested during a sting operation. "

    The one still working in the Midtown location is of great interest, being that the calls to family members came from that area. The age of these two guys fits, their experience both with prostitutes and with law enforcement, their history of beatings and abuse, etc.

    I think we've got some live ones here!

    Thank you NY POST for not being afraid to tell the public what we need to know. If these guys are under surveillance, who knows how many girls' lives have been saved?
    Is there another story? I didn't see any mention of their ages or anything about Midtown.

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    Pinkhammer...remind me again how JB tried to help Shannan Gilbert?
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    JB is Innocent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Pinkhammer...remind me again how JB tried to help Shannan Gilbert?
    Tried to calm her down, let her make numerous phone calls, let her go out to her driver, etc.etc.

    Not the actions of your garden variety serial killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    Is there another story? I didn't see any mention of their ages or anything about Midtown.
    I have deduced their ages from the statements that the one was in NYPD for years and the other was accused "in the nineties".

    Now, the nineties were at least 12 years ago (1999+12=2011)... 1990 was 21 years ago. Average start age for NYPD is around 24. Guy could be anywhere from 36 to 45.

    Second guy had to have some serious seniority to get desk duty and keep his pension rights, etc., after such serious charges. I make him in his mid to late forties now.

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    I read that Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Norwich CT was a card dealer...does anyone know where? Was it Foxwoods in CT? If yes, I bet that's a connection. Interesting that a Long Islander has two options when they want to gamble - Atlantic City and CT (Foxwoods.) Hmmmm...the Norwich Spa is connected to Foxwoods.

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    Very Interesting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roosevelt View Post
    I read that Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Norwich CT was a card dealer...does anyone know where? Was it Foxwoods in CT? If yes, I bet that's a connection. Interesting that a Long Islander has two options when they want to gamble - Atlantic City and CT (Foxwoods.) Hmmmm...the Norwich Spa is connected to Foxwoods.
    Some of us have expected the perp to be a high roller and a frequenter of casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    This article has been linked a couple of times in the forum & it keeps giving me pause about Brainard-Barnes....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2...supportgroup_1

    Cannís sister, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, had gone missing from her Manhattan hotel room nearly three years earlier, in July 2007. Police had subsequently linked her phone activity to a cell phone tower on Long Island. In 2008, police helicopters and cadaver dogs had scoured the same marshy, desolate area, but found no signs of Brainard-Barnes, a sweet-faced brunette with a passion for poetry.

    this is leading me to believe that the killer possibly kept her remains somewhere else for quite some time....
    One thing I am baffled about is why LE waited a couple of hours to send dogs and helicopters to look for SG knowing that MBB went missing in 2007. According to this story, the following year (2008) LE sent the helicopters and cadaver dogs to the same area. Why didn't this raise a red flag? It would seem this was more than a coincidence to even the most casual observer. One would have thought when they realized where SG was, they would have sent in all their reinforcements to find her. The search of the area couldn't have been too thorough for SG's sister to find her earring later on.

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