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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    I must have missed something. What is the connection to pitbulls?

    according to this article Remy from the tattoo is a person http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

    and the Remy from the pitbull website was a pitbull http://www.remyline.com/#!about who may or may not have even been born when JT was killed
    Added Newsday link. - after I wrote the post.

    http://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/pet...oods-1.1261993



    Hi Dcgrumpy, there was discussion on the last thread about dead pit bulls and decapitated chickens found in Manorville.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regiona...ZsMyC91641AmHM

    It seems like a possible connection, because JT's tattoo said Remy's Angel. The above article said the dogs were mutilated. Remy's group does not seem like they would kill or mutilate pit bulls. Maybe they have enemies. I think this line of thought would seem like the GB4 and Manorville aren't related. But who knows.....a lot of coincidences.

    Oh, and the article is from the NY Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosevelt View Post
    I read that Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Norwich CT was a card dealer...does anyone know where? Was it Foxwoods in CT? If yes, I bet that's a connection. Interesting that a Long Islander has two options when they want to gamble - Atlantic City and CT (Foxwoods.) Hmmmm...the Norwich Spa is connected to Foxwoods.
    Hi, Roosevelt; thanks. I think that you bring up an important point. Thanks to media short hand, the serial murders and Shannan Gilbert's disappearance now all seem permanently placed under the rubric of Craigslist killings. While it's true that all the young victims advertised on Craigslist (as did numerous other sex workers), they sought clients and established relationships wherever possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    ITA MK ... a red herring maybe?

    ETA: Wow ... only 2 NYPD cavorting with prostitutes since 1990? Gotta be a record for any PD
    Now let's see. They began looking at the NYPD cops because it was determined "it is likely" they worked in law enforcement because they used disposable cellphones to call the family and they are suspicious because the calls were made from Midtown and one of the cops works in Midtown. Bombshell tonight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanler View Post
    Hi, Roosevelt; thanks. I think that you bring up an important point. Thanks to media short hand, the serial murders and Shannan Gilbert's disappearance now all seem permanently placed under the rubric of Craigslist killings. While it's true that all the young victims advertised on Craigslist (as did numerous other sex workers), they sought clients and established relationships wherever possible.
    He had to start somewhere...I think he learned about Craigslist from one of the first girls he happened upon who offered her "services", maybe at a casino, then after that relationship "ended," he had Craigslist to go to for more easier encounters??? Check the hotel records in CT with LI records for a match?

    As for contact with these women, I'm sure the SK doesn't want to leave a trail of communication...but I hope that LE knows that there are chat rooms on so many gambling websites that would be hard to trace. If the SK is skilled in Craigslist, he is skilled at the computer and knows how to stay under the radar...especially if he is married!

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    Quote Originally Posted by susan1122 View Post
    Added Newsday link. - after I wrote the post.

    http://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/pet...oods-1.1261993



    Hi Dcgrumpy, there was discussion on the last thread about dead pit bulls and decapitated chickens found in Manorville.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regiona...ZsMyC91641AmHM

    It seems like a possible connection, because JT's tattoo said Remy's Angel. The above article said the dogs were mutilated. Remy's group does not seem like they would kill or mutilate pit bulls. Maybe they have enemies. I think this line of thought would seem like the GB4 and Manorville aren't related. But who knows.....a lot of coincidences.

    Oh, and the article is from the NY Post.

    But that group didn't even exist when JT was killed

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    I'm kinda on the fence here...but I would like to know if either of these cops grew up in the area...or in Manorville...but thinking about it , a cop has a lot of built in advantages
    if he wants to be a killer.

    a badge can fly two ways...

    build trust or threaten and intimidate....has regulation handcuffs...has extensive knowledge...has a gun.

    still ...

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    I have wondered if SG's 911 call was being monitored by someone in Oak Beach who was listening to a police scanner, and he/she decided to take advantage of the situation and managed to locate her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalinBella27 View Post
    One thing I am baffled about is why LE waited a couple of hours to send dogs and helicopters to look for SG knowing that MBB went missing in 2007. According to this story, the following year (2008) LE sent the helicopters and cadaver dogs to the same area. Why didn't this raise a red flag? It would seem this was more than a coincidence to even the most casual observer. One would have thought when they realized where SG was, they would have sent in all their reinforcements to find her. The search of the area couldn't have been too thorough for SG's sister to find her earring later on.
    I remember reading a report stating that according to SG's family, SCPD never took SG's disappearance seriously. SG's family had to hire a private investigator and sought help from a NYPD (i believe) detective to get SCPD to take the case seriously.
    It was almost a year later, after the bodies were accidentally discovered that the case was taken seriously, otherwise we probably wouldn't even be talking about it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcgrumpy View Post
    But that group didn't even exist when JT was killed
    How do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret77 View Post
    I remember reading a report stating that according to SG's family, SCPD never took SG's disappearance seriously. SG's family had to hire a private investigator and sought help from a NYPD (i believe) detective to get SCPD to take the case seriously.
    It was almost a year later, after the bodies were accidentally discovered that the case was taken seriously, otherwise we probably wouldn't even be talking about it right now.
    Just unbelievable how negligent they were.

    Sherre said it was the day after the first body was found off OP that LE came to their house - which was in Dec about 7 mos after she disappeared. They told the family about their find and they said they thought there was a good chance it was Shannan.

    I believe the next day two more bodies were found, and either that day or a day or two later LE again went to their house to tell them Shannan was not among the bodies.

    Imagine what this family went through. xox


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    Call me , but ...
    I don't think we'd have NY Post articles about LE involvement if LE's involvement was not a serious consideration.
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    The NY Post .... toilet paper

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/o...alse-1.2878979
    Officials: Reported cop-Gilgo link false


    The NYPD Sunday disputed a report that a current and former officer were under suspicion in the Gilgo Beach killings.
    The New York Post reported in Sunday's editions that, according to unnamed sources, authorities were looking at the activities of the two men, who both were disciplined for behavior with prostitutes. Five of the 10 sets of human remains found in the Gilgo Beach area were female victims who worked as prostitutes.
    The Post reported one of the officers was forced to resign after internal affairs discovered he was seeing prostitutes while on duty. The current officer, the Post reported, was stripped of his gun and badge after a prostitute accused him of assaulting her during a sting operation.




    More at link above

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    would it be possible for le to due familial dna testing on the baby girl found to see if any dna matches up with any potential suspects? there's no reason on earth to kill a baby. the baby would be too young to id anyone. the killer could have left her at a church or gave her to someone to leave at a hospital.

    i'm wondering if he got one of his victims pregnant and decided to kill them both when he found out the child was his. that could maybe explain why the baby was buried in a blanket, it does show some type of emotional connection towards the child. why the emotional connection - i don't know. either the killer didn't want to kill the baby or maybe it's his. (similar to cases where babies have been found buried in a boxlike coffin) someone took the care to put them in the coffin or wrap the baby in the blanket instead of just dumping them with nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkhammer View Post
    "Two NYPD cops are being eyed in the Long Island serial slayings after investigators learned they got into trouble for hiring prostitutes while working for the department, according to sources familiar with the probe.
    One cop was forced out of the job in the 1990s when his supervisors learned he spent time pursuing hookers and paying street walkers and down-and-out women for sex while he was supposed to be on patrol.
    An internal investigation led to his resigning under pressure, one source said.

    The other officer still works for the NYPD but was stripped of his gun and badge years ago because he allegedly assaulted a prostitute and got arrested during a sting operation. "

    The one still working in the Midtown location is of great interest, being that the calls to family members came from that area. The age of these two guys fits, their experience both with prostitutes and with law enforcement, their history of beatings and abuse, etc.

    I think we've got some live ones here!

    Thank you NY POST for not being afraid to tell the public what we need to know. If these guys are under surveillance, who knows how many girls' lives have been saved?
    fooey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    How do you know this?
    From the link I posted earlier http://www.remyline.com/#!about


    They are dog breeders, all of the puppies are descendants of a dog name Remy. He didn't sire his first litter until 2004. JT was killed in 2003. Plus if the other story is correct and the Remy on her tattoo was a person. I don't see how there would be any connection to a dog with the same name.

    I think the dead dogs and chickens are completely unrelated to this case.

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