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    TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren, 44, Signal Mountain, 30 April 2011 - #3

    Gail Nowacki Palmgren is missing as of 4/30/11 from Signal Mountain TN.
    She is driving a Jeep Rubicon, 4 door, Red, with AL license plate number "Eazy St" .
    Gail is 5'8", blond hair, 135 lbs. Call Signal Mountain PD at 423-886-2124


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    Gail Palmgren Timeline http://bit.ly/lVCfth

    Friday, April 22, 2011

    First 911 call—dispute regarding travel in vehicles to lake house

    Friday, April 29, 2011

    Second 911 call—Gail given numbers for safe place to stay. Resolved when “Matthew Palmgren agreed to stay at 40 Ridgerock Drive and let Gail Palmgren take their two children…to their lake house in Wetumpka, AL for the night,” according to police report

    40 Ridgerock Drive, Signal Mountain, TN 37377-2100
    to 439 Easy St, Wetumpka, AL 36092-3406
    http://mapq.st/jcTz7M

    Gail stopped at Arlene Durham's home in Titus, AL
    just north of Wetumpka, on the night of April 29

    Saturday, April 30, 2011

    12:15 pm: Gail brought children home to
    40 Ridgerock Drive, Signal Mountain, TN 37377-2100
    http://bit.ly/lVUChL
    and left sans driver's license, credit cards
    driving a Dark Red Jeep Wrangler Rubicon http://bit.ly/m7RYJA
    any phone pings?

    Matt P. said he was at his mothers (25 minutes away)
    he proposed to meet Mrs. Palmgren at the residence on April 30
    ,

    http://bit.ly/kAOioC ?
    http://bit.ly/kouRZD ?
    but when he arrived (at what time?) she was gone,
    having left the two children "by themselves without any supervision."

    Monday, May 2, 2011

    Gail Palmgren's sister, Diane Nichols, calls Signal Mountain Police
    from her home in New York. Nichols reports not hearing from Gail,
    and requests a welfare check and files a missing persons report.
    An officer drove to the Palmgren's home. No one was home and
    there were no signs of foul play. Later that day, Matthew Palmgren
    calls 911 to report his wife missing. He tells police his wife dropped
    their children off at home alone and had not been seen since.
    http://bit.ly/k2o9ha

    Third 911 call: Gail is reported as missing
    Gail Palmgren http://bit.ly/m9mHfw

    5:00 pm: WalMart area cell tower phone ping
    Walmart 501 Signal Mountain Rd, Chattanooga, TN
    http://bit.ly/ilncK7
    which cell phone service did Gail have?

    ATT Sprint Verizon Cell Towers
    http://bit.ly/mT5X8h (scroll down, filter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo
    I wonder if LE has interviewed MP's girlfriend?
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.
    Yeah, I guess that must have sounded like a no-brainer, but er, ehhh, well...better not say what I'm thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
    I don't remember that? Do we have a time to add to the timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
    It is my understanding, that her sister spoke to Gail,
    BEFORE Gail left the Ridgerock home.

    if this is not correct, please post the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    bolded by me.

    If I recall correctly, SB saw her driving the Jeep on their street and waved, but Gail didn't acknowledge her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    I had wondered about that too, but JBean said it was 100% known that it was GP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollyblue View Post
    I had wondered about that too, but JBean said it was 100% known that it was GP.
    Did JBean say it was 100% sure she drove home or 100% that she later left the home?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    Didn't we hear this information from her neighbor on the mtn?
    "It's been clear from day one that the contradicting statements from the family members are not the truth," said Capt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

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    I'm new here obviously, so I have a question for those more experienced here.

    From what I can tell, there's not any major network coverage of this in AL, outside of the area where Gail's AL house is located. (Meaning the parts of AL north of Montgomery/Wetumpka) I don't know that there hasn't been any at all, but I'm not finding any.

    I realize media coverage of this overall has been lacking from the beginning, even in TN. But, since Gail has a residence in AL, a vehicle with AL tags, and probably drove through central and northeastern AL at least on the 29th and 30th, shouldn't they be looking for sightings of her and her vehicle in those parts of AL too? Whether it would be for reasons to help with the timeline, or maybe a sighting of her vehicle after the phone ping.

    I guess my real question is... If LE knows something that they're not releasing to the public for a reason, and they haven't sought more coverage in AL, could it possibly hinder the investigation if an individual tries to get more coverage from the news stations in AL?

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    GP's husband-Matt has stated that GP was suffering mental problems and was on some forms of prescription medication for that. I know some people, especially people who didn't live in the house with them has stated that that was not true-couldn't be true. I'm kind of remembering the old clique "that no one really knows what goes on behind closed doors". In the scheme of things I'm feeling that -that information may be true-before the husband gave that information he had to have known LE would confirm that. I don't see him as an unintelligent person. you never know though.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow57 View Post
    GP's husband-Matt has stated that GP was suffering mental problems and was on some forms of prescription medication for that. I know some people, especially people who didn't live in the house with them has stated that that was not true-couldn't be true. I'm kind of remembering the old clique "that no one really knows what goes on behind closed doors". In the scheme of things I'm feeling that -that information may be true-before the husband gave that information he had to have known LE would confirm that. I don't see him as an unintelligent person. you never know though.....
    But LE didn't confirm it, and they still haven't confirmed it.

    In fact, the only official statement about her mental illness is this:

    Signal Mountain police Detective James Tizzio said his investigation had uncovered no psychiatric issues with the missing woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow57 View Post
    GP's husband-Matt has stated that GP was suffering mental problems and was on some forms of prescription medication for that. I know some people, especially people who didn't live in the house with them has stated that that was not true-couldn't be true. I'm kind of remembering the old clique "that no one really knows what goes on behind closed doors". In the scheme of things I'm feeling that -that information may be true-before the husband gave that information he had to have known LE would confirm that. I don't see him as an unintelligent person. you never know though.....
    As for the prescriptions meds, she certainly could be on some and Matt says she is in the divorce filing. But like everything else we do not know what that means. It doesn't tell us which of the scripts she actually uses,and of those why she uses them. She could be on an anti-d like so many others but that doesn't quite make you delusional and mental.

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    ATRUEFRIEND, it sounds like you are very close/local to this case. Can you please contact a moderator (u can use the little exclamation/triangle in the corner of your own post) and get verified as a local. Thank you and welcome.

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    I am a close friend of Gail's .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    ATRUEFRIEND, it sounds like you are very close/local to this case. Can you please contact a moderator (u can use the little exclamation/triangle in the corner of your own post) and get verified as a local. Thank you and welcome.
    I'm confused about this. Is there a need/want to know who on the board is a local or just who is a friend of Gail's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I'm confused about this. Is there a need/want to know who on the board is a local or just who is a friend of Gail's?

    It is customary here at WS that locals and people who know players are verified so that the chance is minimized that people are claiming to be someone they are not. JBean is setting the rules for the thread, and at the present time she is not requiring locals and friends to verify UNLESS they are going to post or discuss information that is not common knowledge. ATF chose to verify both as a friend and a local to the case.

    Does this make more sense?
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    Observations/comments

    New to site, have scanned through most postings and wanted to post a few thoughts...


    1. People seem to be baffled that if she did plan to take off, why did she not take the kids? My response is that both children had approx one month of school left and it would be impossible to get situated in a new place/school under circumstances like that, and as a mom, I would not forfeit a year of school for my children with one month left, if I felt they were safe. If it were a planned escape, she may have had an ongoing plan to hook back up with the children later. (not saying whether or not things have gone according to plan)

    2. It appears to me that her behavior regarding the jeep prior to her disappearance was very unusual - she went so far as to hide the key and call 911 in actions related to the jeep - perhaps a ruse to prevent her MP from taking it? Was the jeep already packed with a few things? Why did they leave so early from the lake house that they were back on the mtn by approx noon? (there is an hour difference in time zones I think, too)

    3. The lack of action by investigators...the situation where they are not taking what most would think are the obvious steps...they must know things they are not sharing, for a reason. They may have felt pressure to go through the motions, thus the press conference etc.

    Just noting that people are capable of all kinds of plans, plots, ruses - there is no telling what any individual is capable of and that goes for MP and GP. The most worrisome scenario to me is that she did have an accident on her way out.

    Anyway, remaining neutral until more is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalalu View Post
    New to site, have scanned through most postings and wanted to post a few thoughts...
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    Anyway, remaining neutral until more is available.



    The only reason why I feel a little less neutral is the husbands actions. He is already stating that she took off. He is already filing motions in court. He has the attitude of one that will likely bash the mother of his children very publicly very easily. This just reminds me too much of other not-so-innocent men that have done the exact same thing. {arrrchummmm} josh powell ...

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    It is 100% known it was Gail leaving the home after dropping the kids off. I may have fed into the rumor that Gail called her sister afterwards, but you can take JBean's word, at least, to the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    It is 100% known it was Gail leaving the home after dropping the kids off. I may have fed into the rumor that Gail called her sister afterwards, but you can take JBean's word, at least, to the bank.
    Before checking this idea completely off the list, I have one more question. I don't doubt JBean's word for a minute, and I also think the neighbor seems absolutely credible.

    Not knowing JBean's source, I just have to ask if it's even POSSIBLE the reliable source could have been cleverly tricked, as I described. JBean?

    P.S. I keep going back in to edit to remove pronouns. Can somebody say if JBean is male or female?

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