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    TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren, 44, Signal Mountain, 30 April 2011 - #3

    Gail Nowacki Palmgren is missing as of 4/30/11 from Signal Mountain TN.
    She is driving a Jeep Rubicon, 4 door, Red, with AL license plate number "Eazy St" .
    Gail is 5'8", blond hair, 135 lbs. Call Signal Mountain PD at 423-886-2124


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    Gail Palmgren Timeline http://bit.ly/lVCfth

    Friday, April 22, 2011

    First 911 call—dispute regarding travel in vehicles to lake house

    Friday, April 29, 2011

    Second 911 call—Gail given numbers for safe place to stay. Resolved when “Matthew Palmgren agreed to stay at 40 Ridgerock Drive and let Gail Palmgren take their two children…to their lake house in Wetumpka, AL for the night,” according to police report

    40 Ridgerock Drive, Signal Mountain, TN 37377-2100
    to 439 Easy St, Wetumpka, AL 36092-3406
    http://mapq.st/jcTz7M

    Gail stopped at Arlene Durham's home in Titus, AL
    just north of Wetumpka, on the night of April 29

    Saturday, April 30, 2011

    12:15 pm: Gail brought children home to
    40 Ridgerock Drive, Signal Mountain, TN 37377-2100
    http://bit.ly/lVUChL
    and left sans driver's license, credit cards
    driving a Dark Red Jeep Wrangler Rubicon http://bit.ly/m7RYJA
    any phone pings?

    Matt P. said he was at his mothers (25 minutes away)
    he proposed to meet Mrs. Palmgren at the residence on April 30
    ,

    http://bit.ly/kAOioC ?
    http://bit.ly/kouRZD ?
    but when he arrived (at what time?) she was gone,
    having left the two children "by themselves without any supervision."

    Monday, May 2, 2011

    Gail Palmgren's sister, Diane Nichols, calls Signal Mountain Police
    from her home in New York. Nichols reports not hearing from Gail,
    and requests a welfare check and files a missing persons report.
    An officer drove to the Palmgren's home. No one was home and
    there were no signs of foul play. Later that day, Matthew Palmgren
    calls 911 to report his wife missing. He tells police his wife dropped
    their children off at home alone and had not been seen since.
    http://bit.ly/k2o9ha

    Third 911 call: Gail is reported as missing
    Gail Palmgren http://bit.ly/m9mHfw

    5:00 pm: WalMart area cell tower phone ping
    Walmart 501 Signal Mountain Rd, Chattanooga, TN
    http://bit.ly/ilncK7
    which cell phone service did Gail have?

    ATT Sprint Verizon Cell Towers
    http://bit.ly/mT5X8h (scroll down, filter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo
    I wonder if LE has interviewed MP's girlfriend?
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.
    Yeah, I guess that must have sounded like a no-brainer, but er, ehhh, well...better not say what I'm thinking...

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    Observations/comments

    New to site, have scanned through most postings and wanted to post a few thoughts...


    1. People seem to be baffled that if she did plan to take off, why did she not take the kids? My response is that both children had approx one month of school left and it would be impossible to get situated in a new place/school under circumstances like that, and as a mom, I would not forfeit a year of school for my children with one month left, if I felt they were safe. If it were a planned escape, she may have had an ongoing plan to hook back up with the children later. (not saying whether or not things have gone according to plan)

    2. It appears to me that her behavior regarding the jeep prior to her disappearance was very unusual - she went so far as to hide the key and call 911 in actions related to the jeep - perhaps a ruse to prevent her MP from taking it? Was the jeep already packed with a few things? Why did they leave so early from the lake house that they were back on the mtn by approx noon? (there is an hour difference in time zones I think, too)

    3. The lack of action by investigators...the situation where they are not taking what most would think are the obvious steps...they must know things they are not sharing, for a reason. They may have felt pressure to go through the motions, thus the press conference etc.

    Just noting that people are capable of all kinds of plans, plots, ruses - there is no telling what any individual is capable of and that goes for MP and GP. The most worrisome scenario to me is that she did have an accident on her way out.

    Anyway, remaining neutral until more is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    Surely by now they have! I hope they are looking into all her activities during those days as well.
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    bolded by me.

    If I recall correctly, SB saw her driving the Jeep on their street and waved, but Gail didn't acknowledge her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
    I don't remember that? Do we have a time to add to the timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    I had wondered about that too, but JBean said it was 100% known that it was GP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    I want to know if she resembles Gail. I don't remember how we know Gail was driving the jeep that left the subdivision on the 30th.
    Didn't we hear this information from her neighbor on the mtn?
    "It's been clear from day one that the contradicting statements from the family members are not the truth," said Capt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalalu View Post
    New to site, have scanned through most postings and wanted to post a few thoughts...
    (Respectfully snipped)
    Anyway, remaining neutral until more is available.



    The only reason why I feel a little less neutral is the husbands actions. He is already stating that she took off. He is already filing motions in court. He has the attitude of one that will likely bash the mother of his children very publicly very easily. This just reminds me too much of other not-so-innocent men that have done the exact same thing. {arrrchummmm} josh powell ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    IIRC her sister spoke with her after she dropped the kids off...
    It is my understanding, that her sister spoke to Gail,
    BEFORE Gail left the Ridgerock home.

    if this is not correct, please post the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forums4Justice View Post
    It is my understanding, that her sister spoke to Gail,
    BEFORE Gail left the Ridgerock home.

    if this is not correct, please post the correction
    That is what I thought, that Gail did not feel free to talk because the children would hear her. I know the neighbor said she saw Gail leave, but she thought it was strange Gail did not acknowledge her, as I remember. I'm wondering if it's possible she assumed it was Gail, since that is who she would have expected it to be, but maybe it wasn't.

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    I can't find anything right now about when she called Diane, just the comment made on a local Fox affiliate that said this is an even bigger mystery because of the comments Gail made to Diane in that phone call. (They of course don't tell us what those comments are.)

    Where could we go to get answers to questions like this? I'm new to this, which is why I am asking. The police wouldn't talk to private citizens like us, I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollyblue View Post
    I had wondered about that too, but JBean said it was 100% known that it was GP.
    Did JBean say it was 100% sure she drove home or 100% that she later left the home?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorias View Post
    I can't find anything right now about when she called Diane, just the comment made on a local Fox affiliate that said this is an even bigger mystery because of the comments Gail made to Diane in that phone call. (They of course don't tell us what those comments are.)

    Where could we go to get answers to questions like this? I'm new to this, which is why I am asking. The police wouldn't talk to private citizens like us, I assume.
    that's FAUX for you, they have a habit of adding intrigue

    I can understand specific times being protected
    because it helps prevent cover stories from being concocted

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorias View Post
    I can't find anything right now about when she called Diane, just the comment made on a local Fox affiliate that said this is an even bigger mystery because of the comments Gail made to Diane in that phone call. (They of course don't tell us what those comments are.)Where could we go to get answers to questions like this? I'm new to this, which is why I am asking. The police wouldn't talk to private citizens like us, I assume.
    Hopefully, both SMPD and HCSO are well aware of what Gail told her sister even IF the general publlic doesn't know..JMHO
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    It is 100% known it was Gail leaving the home after dropping the kids off. I may have fed into the rumor that Gail called her sister afterwards, but you can take JBean's word, at least, to the bank.
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    Just pure speculation on my part, but wondering IF Gail may have come home from the lake house and found evidence of the girlfriend being in her home while she was in Alabama and decided to confront her..In reference to myself, I think IF I found evidence of my husband having another woman in my home, I just may be inclined to confront her in person... Not saying this happened I'm just thinking out loud...JMHO
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    "It's been clear from day one that the contradicting statements from the family members are not the truth," said Capt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

    JUSTICE HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED AND HIDDEN IN THE LAW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forums4Justice View Post
    It is my understanding, that her sister spoke to Gail,
    BEFORE Gail left the Ridgerock home.

    if this is not correct, please post the correction
    LOL....what I remember was the sister saying she talked to GP before she disappeared. That could be after or before she dropped the kids off or was at the house. It's driving us nuts!!!! We need some clarification of the sis's call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    Just pure speculation on my part, but wondering IF Gail may have come home from the lake house and found evidence of the girlfriend being in her home while she was in Alabama and decided to confront her..In reference to myself, I think IF I found evidence of my husband having another woman in my home, I just may be inclined to confront her in person... Not saying this happened I'm just thinking out loud...JMHO
    I think that's an interesting theory. I wonder if anybody on here who knows Gail could say if that is the type thing she might do.

    And if anybody knows who the "other woman" is (not suggesting the name should be posted anywhere), it would be interesting for investigators to check out that neighborhood, to see if anybody in that area saw the jeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl* View Post
    That is what I thought, that Gail did not feel free to talk because the children would hear her. I know the neighbor said she saw Gail leave, but she thought it was strange Gail did not acknowledge her, as I remember. I'm wondering if it's possible she assumed it was Gail, since that is who she would have expected it to be, but maybe it wasn't.
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    I think that was the friend in AL, Arlene, who stated this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollyblue View Post
    LOL....what I remember was the sister saying she talked to GP before she disappeared. That could be after or before she dropped the kids off or was at the house. It's driving us nuts!!!! We need some clarification of the sis's call.
    I specifically remember the detail that Gail could not speak freely because the children were with her. I also remember the article saying Gail was driving when that call occurred.

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