06-08-2011, 10:07 AM #1
Witness is on the stand.
LDB: how you are employed
computer examiner for OCSO
LDB: how long?
LDB: what assignments?
patrol, then to crime scene investigations, sex crimes, homicide...now computer
LDB: what qualifies you?
business degree with Columbia, computer forensic certification
LDB: more about your certification
IASIS: certification involves a lengthy process. class room setting. two week class. peer review phase, practical exam problems 100 question knowledge exam.
LDB: what are you asked to do in these programs? class room instruction and profecency tests what tested on?
to demonstrate proffency, basic level, how to report and document those findings accuratley
LDB: practical experience?
OCSO several hundred exams, computers cell phones PDA's any device with a digital file.
LDB: testify in court?
LDB: permitted to give opinions on computer forensics?
LDB: I tender this person as an expert
HHJP: is accepted as expert in computer forensic analysis
LDB: have a title? detective Osborne did you receive items?
LDB: cell phone purported to belong to Casey?
LDB: may I approach the witness?
HHJP: you mayJohn 14:6
06-08-2011, 10:12 AM #2
I do. The label is in my handwriting. My initials
LDB: what is contained inside?
a nokia cell phone
LDB: into evidence
JB: no objections
HHJP: received into evidence
LDB: are there forensic applications that can be utilized to retrieve data from a phone such as this?
LDB: what info can get?
contact list, text, call history incoming out going, picture, audio files
LDB: ability hampered by the phone itself?
LDB: service provider?
yes, serveral ways info could be hampered, the company might not let you have info, the cord could be disabled by carrier sometimes our technology can't get into
LDB: does cell bright update the info to OCSO?
LDB: when received looking for ZFG?
LDB: what info gained?
the initial data was contact list and music files
LDB: why only that?
the limitations of my cell bright, it was not capable of fully extracting data at that time
LDB: what is SIM card?
it allows the phone to connect to the network
LDB: the Nokia phone have a SIM card in it, from Miss Anthony?
I need notes
LDB: is having witness look at notesJohn 14:6
06-08-2011, 10:31 AM #3
Sandra [Cawn] Osborne testimony (computer forensics)
Sandra Osborne-OCSO 21 years this year - computer
patrol, crime scene, sex crimes, child abuse, homicide and now computer crimes
college business degree - 700 hours training and 2 certifications for forensic computer examiner ...IASIS certification process ....2 week classroom...peer review phase.....practical exam problems....100 question practical knowledge exam successful completed.....classroom instruction and proficiency tests.....computer forensic exam...basic computers...where to locate on computer ..document those finding accurately
practical experience - several hundred exams..computers/cell phone/pda - anything with a digital file....expert witnesss in OC in FL - explained issues re: computer forensics.....no object - expert witness in area of forensic computer anaylsis
title? Detective Osborne.....received several items in disappearance of Caylee...first item cell phone belong to kc, envelope - label, reseal package, date and initials confirmed....item inside Nokia cell phone (is this the missing Nokia cell?)....received into evidence....forensic applications to utilize to retrieve data from cell ...process available ...cellbrite - tool ...able to give reliable data premier in field...contact list, text, incoming outgoing, voice message, audio and pic files, anything phone does......service provider can extract data can be hampered.....manufacturer of phone doesn't allow 3rd party tool....plug in port could be disabled from software....some data not available on that particular phone.....cellbrite updates software periodically...receive phone look for ZFG locate? initial data extrated contact list and music files...limits of cellbrite was not capable of fully extracting data on the phone....sim card little card chip allows phone to connect to network....sim cards interchangable in different phones attempt to contact ....don't recall if sim card was in kc's phone - look @ report to refresh recollect for sim card....it did have a sim card...use different forensic applications other cellbrite to retrieve data from sim card? put sim card into cellbrite device.....sim card have any more info than the cellbrite extractions from the cell? simcard was same info as device.....locate any info about ZFG? didn't notice any.....not her function ....didn't see any but she handed data extracted to detectives in the case....cellbrite does nice job in reporting data that is easy to read...eventually received other evidence items to initially locate ZFG....computer, laptop computer....from Det. Beasely brought in laptop serial #, desktop computer serial number# HP home computer....received this computer from Awilda McBride from missing persons unit - on 7/17/08 1:30 pm....laptop received on 7/16/08 8:00 pm ....cameras? yes....polaroid T730 digital camera 7/17/08 and Nikon coolpix on 7/21/08.....forensic tool to examine camera - endcase by guidance software - digital camera...didn't plug Nikon camera but pulled the SD card into the adapter and used endcase to view contents of the card.....locate any video files of Caylee? yes....using that tool able to determine date of video files generated....dates on the files from Nikon coolpix 6/15/08 - reviewed the video....video from nursing facility....appeared to be yes....date and time accurate when actual image was captured....most cameras or videocameras will imbed information date and time of pic taken. gps coordinates if it is a newer device ....shutter speed, etc.....Nikon coolpix ....date and time setting the camera set to @ the time video was taken....when she received it compared date and time setting w/current date and time 7/21/08 10:54 am, and setting on camera 7/21/08 10:56 am - 2 min difference....
laptop received from Det. Beasley....what condition was it when provided? on/off?
laptop was? doesn't recall if powered on or off @ time received it....make a difference for retrieving data? document condition @ the time....word doc open, on the internet...power it down and remove the battery.....methodology to make sure it is off before any attempt to retrieve data? Yes in lab setting power it off and remove hard drive from the machine...
Desktop floor model - HP 520 N...hard drive 160 gigbytes ....item powerd down not on @ time of receipt...different tools evaluate contents of computer vs....used the endcase software....standard tool in industry....don't know when endcase started ....she's been using since 2006..a dacade or more....industry standard reliable software tool...
endcase tool can examine every bit every zero and every one on the harddrive....whether user can see that info or not.....what did with HP to ensure data as it existed was not changed/altered standard practice to maintain evidence as received....harddrive ...condition of computer removed....rightblocker....prevents forensic machine from taking ahold of it....don't want that to happen....windows wants to reach out and touch others....right blocker holds that original harddrive....put the orig. back into evidence and work on the copy that right blocker made.....returned hard drive .....she stored data on another hard drive and brought with today
with a cellphone ....
15 min recess
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06-08-2011, 10:32 AM #4
it did have a SIM card yes
LDB: other than cell bright to get data?
a process of removing the car and instruct the cell bright devise that recognizes the SIM card and report it for you.
LDB: did the SIM card have info other than physical phone itself?
the SIM card was same as device
LDB: with that info at that time, was there any info regarding ZFG
I didn't notice but it is not my function to know what was looking for. I get info and give.
LDB: you reduce it to a report or format?
the cell bright does a nice job in a nice web based report that is readable.
LDB: did you receive other items to locate ZFG?
LDB: lap top computer?
LDB: who from?
Det. Beasley a lap top
LDB: serial number you remember?
my report will reflect(looking at notes) the serial number is (gives number)
LDB: receive desk top computer as well?
a floor model yes I did
LDB: serial number?
LDB: who did you receive that computer from?
Wilda McBride: missing persons
LDB: date and time?
July 17th 2008 at 1:30 pm
LDB: lap top
Beasely July 16th 2008 8 pm in evening
poleroid D17 camera, a nikon cool pics camera
LDB: are there forensic applications to determine the contents of camera?
forensic tool to examine
LDB: nikon cool pics?
guidance soft ware
LDB: what info does that provide off of camera?
I did not plug in nikon camera into Incase, I pulled the card that had files and put SD card into adapter to view contents of card
LDB: able to
LDB: any files of Caylee Anthony
LDB: date the video was generated?
the dates on the files June 15th 2008
LDB: review video?
LDB: nursing video?
LDB: how do you know date and time is right?
most cameras today inbed in each file info about itself. the make and model of camera, date and time. GPS if more advanced where picture was taken, shutter speed, the info on this Nikon gave me into: the model and date and time
LDB: when you received the camera did you make an assessment re: the date and time?
I compared the dates and time to current time. It was july 21 2008 at 10 54 in morning and the setting on the clock itself so there was a two minute difference.
LDB: the lap top, what condition was it in when provided. on? off?
I believe that camera was off, the lap top(checking report) I don't recall if that item was powered on or off when I received it.
LDB: does that make a difference to you?
as far as retriveing data? no, I will remove the battery. I document the condition of the machine if running, is a word doc open...I will make a note before I power it down.
LDB: when performing an examination is it your methodology to make sure it is off before attempt to retrieve info?
in a lab setting, yes power down and retrieve the hard drive
LDB: when you received the desk top what?
LDB: how large is hard drive?
LDB: tools you use to evaluate computer?
I used the (NK) software
LDB: NK used for a long time?
it is a standard
LDB: how long utilized?
I have been using it since 2006. A decade or more?
LDB: NK is reliable?
it is an industustry standard
LDB: you told us about cell bright. what do you get through NK?
every bit on the hard drive. every zero and every "one". it looks at all info on hard drive.
LDB: what did you do with HP to insure the data as it existed was not changed altered or corrupted?
standard practice to protect original info. after docmenting condition of computer. I attached it to the right blocker, it prevents my machine from taking a hold of that drive and making changes, I don't want files to change or my machine to do that, I connect it to a blocker in a read only mode and put original away and work with copy.
LDB: orignial drive?
back in evidence
hard drive is returned to family
LDB: before returned what do you do to make sure you have access to data?
the NK file I get the original drive is preserved, I have in court today.
LDB: you don't necessarily look at the data?
with a cell phone I hand over to investigators
LDB: as far as computer you do evaluate the data from hard drive?
HHJP: taking a recess 15 minutes.John 14:6
06-08-2011, 10:56 AM #5
HHJP: Let's return the jury
LDB: talking about your evaluating info that was preserved and extracted from hard drive
LDB: what info does NK provide?
every bit of info on hard drive. every bit of info that was ever on it. system files. file system that is used by the operating system and deleted files.
LDB: on the HP in particular before you, perhaps during your evaluation do you record the date and time that is on the computer when you receive it?
LDB: how is that done
I power it on, there is a function key to get in that area to get current date and time it is set to
LDB: can you give the data you obtained and relate it to current date and time
july 18th at 12:13 pm the computer was july 18th at 12:13 right on the money
LDB: what software?
windows XP, windows internet explorer, mozilla firefox, microsoft for XL spread sheets, facebook, myspace was loaded into user areas, peer to peer, yahoo messenger.
LDB: the micosoft XP program that is what was loaded on computer at time of purchase?
if it was completely overwritten I couldn't tell that, but it seems to have the one from purchase...(?)had been in use on that computer for quite a while
LDB: standard with microsoft?
you can load with what you want but mostly see windows
LDB: mentioned another browser?
LDB: need to download?
LDB: the HP?
Safari, a mac book but the main ones were mozilla and internet explorer
LDB: the computer have users that have own icon?
HP has two user accounts not be default. one user was: owner and other was: casey(she spelled name out)John 14:6
06-08-2011, 11:19 AM #6
Osborne info in the Bios - system clock and get current data....HP data obtained on 7/18/08 @ 12:13 pm ,....system set at exact same time "right on the money"....software Microsoft Windows XP, internet explorer, firefox, microsoft applications excel spreadsheets, fb, myspace, aol, yahoo messenger...many others don't recall and didn't record....microsoft XP loaded on computer @ time of purchase appears to be...if overwritten wouldn't be able to tell that...windows XP installed since 9/2005...HP come standard with microsoft softward - common to find...loaded with windows operating system seen frequently....another internet browser ...firefox can be downloaded from internet...another safari - typical apple/macbook application to access internet....firefox and internet explorer on this computer...2 user accounts .....one was entitled owner and other other is entitiled kasey....
tasked to do? fishing expedition on ZFG any info lead us to Caylee....exam of that type peruse thru user folders ....on desktop by the users.......what stored on desktop....internet history....webpages visited in files...phone numbers....phone books...who owns or use this computer? what person is using this alot ... business computer or gaming compuer - how is it used......located references in ZFG in temporary internet files.....date and time of the references determined by temp. internet files......webbrowser keeps cache results....computers all about speed ...get to data as fast as possible....look @ temporary files .....(ie: www.nascar.com the url will be stored on harddrive - record visited that site - page will reload from harddrive instead of going to the web where was found before)...records date and time and where I went recorded in temp. internet files....several searches peoplesearch...highschoool classmates....7/16/08 google websearch - ZFG age range 22-29 in Orlando or Jax FL....any references to ZFG prior to morning of 7/16/08? No I did not!
General usage of the computer....computer appears to be on running good bit of the time....not too many documents found several resumes.....no wills not a whole lot of business type or school...a lot history with temporary internet files .....longest found 4 1/2 years of history....never cleared internet history....you can right click on properties....clear internet history for microsoft it will not clear firefox....you have to go into each program and clear each one.....what happens when you clear...saved in unallocated space....depends usage and full harddrive is....if a lot of files being put in top of files you can delete quickly or can stay for years.....freespace/unallocated space is written over cannot retrieve original data.....keyword search.....encase has ability to search gobs/data.....plug in word of nascar.....will go thru every bit on the computer to search for nascar...
on user account - password protected? able to determine password rico23....password set on earlier in year 2008 .....attempting to verify that...maybe March 2008....skip over that.....
internet history on HP - evaluated by complicated question....internet history - website visited....temp. are the content of those pages....used Netanalysis put all of internet files, cookie files...etc....into spread sheet to look @ them any way Osborne would like to look at them....reliable tool for evaluation of data....
can tell which user making search? Yes internet history....object-overrule...temp. internet history which user is loged in and active @ time search conducted.....temporary internet files records which user logged in....cookies and history included.....if files are deleted tell you which user account generated that? no that info no longer available.....YM ask keyword search for chloroform or alternate spellings of that word around 8/2008 late in month....keyword search in same manner as ZFG - keyword search spelled correct and incorrect and came up with keyword search hits ....on unallocated/deleted space on the harddrive...view info associated with those hits - can see it...in deleted space....hit or miss whether entire record or not in this case we were able to recover complete history from beginning of the code to create page and end of page complete history from unallocated space.....sometimes it is difficult when overwriting with a very large file but that didn't happen in this case....recovered entire history record....she turned over to her sargent who is an expert in that area....Osborne is not...(object- sustained)....when encase reported back found word chloroform look @ that language recognize immediately as an internet file - not that familiar ....went back to beginning of the record....difficult to determine where that first appeared - found serch hit and turned over to supv.;
HP not only computer evaluated thru encase.....also received computer from Ricardo M... received on 10/28/08 submitted by Sgt. John Allen.....preserved data
removed hard drive - Macbook ....copied using encase software - date and time removed 10.28/08 3:24 pm...system clock set @ 7:24 pm....london or GMT....differential of 4 hours.....
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06-08-2011, 11:22 AM #7
LDB: using NK to look at different parts, what was it you were tasked to do initially?
a fishing expediton regarding ZFG and any info that would lead us to Caylee
LDB: what did you do to look for references of ZFG?
with an examination the first thing I do is look through user folders. I look at desk top, active files, start at desk top level what is stored. internet history where they visit, temp internet files to see where visit. any info re: who owns this computer and what person uses it. are they online a lot, business computer? Games, sometimes people only use for games.
LDB: able to locate references to ZFG
yes in temp internet files
LDB: determine date and time?
LDB: how are you able to do that?
the temp files are a record. save on hard drive. it is about speed, every page you visit will save to hard drive. I can see what pages have been visited on there. If I go to www. nascar . com that URL will be stored on my hard drive and have a record that I visited that side and it will load from my hard drive. what I found on the 16th it records not only where I went but the date and time. That reference on the 16th is it being cashed to hard drive.
several searches on internet: class reunion. searches for the name. on the morning of July 16th 2008. looking for a age range of 22 to 29 either in Orlando or Jacksonville.
LDB: any references to ZFG prior to the date of July 16th?
LDB: the process is trying to asses the general usage. any conclusions as to use this computer got?
on and running. not much office work. resumes of Mr. Anthony's. not a lot of business. no homework. a lot of internet history the temp files where four and a half years of internet history. they did not clear the history either.
LDB: how, browser?
click on it and clear
LDB: have to do it for each browser?
yes, if clear for Internet explorer will not clear fire fox
LDB: once you clear that cashe?
it gets saved on deleted space, but it resides on hard drive
LDB: how long can info stay in the allocated space/deleted space
depends, maybe for years.
LDB: if you have this free space on the computer and it is written over can you ever retrive the data that is underlying what writes over it?
LDB: what is a key word search?
NCase allows me to ask NCase: Nascar it will go through every bit of that hard drive looking for Nascar. I can ask for only one file or part if I like.
LDB: user accounts password protected?
LDB: determine password?
LDB: able to determine when set?
yes(looking at report)(police sirens in back ground) sorry there is a lot of info in this report. (it is taking a while) set earlier in year in 2008 if I remember correctly. I am trying to verify that. Earlier in the year March of 2008, I believe.
LDB: the internet history on the HP. How evaluate that?
complicated question. internet files or history
LDB: two different things?
one is the page, difference. the history I would have copied those files out from Ncase using Net Analysis which puts cookies files, etc into spread sheet how I want to look at them: by date or however I wanted to look at them
LDB: is Net Analysis used in the computer forensic field?
LDB: standard in the field
has been and yes
LDB: in files, cookies or internet history, can you tell which user is making the search?
yes, the internet history data base
it records which user account is logged in and using account. not who is sitting there but which account is being used.
LDB: user account? internet history? cookies?
LDB: once files are deleted, will the record associated with deleted files tell you who made search?
no, info no longer available
LDB: asked by YM to perform a key word search for chloroform?
late in Aug 2008
LDB: how was that performed?
the same as the ZFG key word was performed, put it into Ncase.
LDB: was there a location on the computer where you determined the key word hits occured.
in deleted space on hard drive
LDB: are you able to view the info associated with those hits?
LDB: what can you see?
because it is in deleted space. hit or miss if get entire record. with chloroform we were able to recover the complete history. from the beginning to the end. complete history record.
LDB: you said that is sometimes difficult
sometimes when you delete there is a chance it gets covered but not in this case, we got entire record
LDB: how do you know?
I gave to sargent who is expert in that area, I am not
LDB: you alerted another individual you reported a hit
chloroform: I was able to look at the language surrounding that and recogzied it as a data base internet file. I went to the beginning of the record because I did not know where it appeared, I found the search hit and turned it over to my sargent.
LDB: how does that happen?
he shoulder surfs, we are in a few feet of each other in the lab, he copied that out to another source and created report from there.
LDB: the HP was not only one through NCase?
LDB: Ricardo Moralas?
yes, I did
LDB: what did you receive and from who?
I received a computer reportedly belonging to RM by John Allen
LDB: what did you do to preserve the data on RM computer?
the proceedure to document is the same as the other computers. removing hard drive and checking system clock. it was an apple, mac book, hard drive removed and copied using the Ncase software.
LDB: note date and time?
oct 28 2008 at 3:24 and system was oct 28 2008: London time or Grenwich mean time. difference of four hours.
LDB: if I may show the witness what was introduced as states 12. There is a monitor that looks like it has been turned. may I publish to jury since it has already been introduced?
HHJP: you may
LDB: can you see image?
LDB: were you asked to deterime if that image was on his computer?
look for pictures of caylee with pink tee and info
LDB: able to locate states number 12?
searching the graphic files on the computer. I am sorry I don't know that I did, if I recognize that one. I do not have that report printed out, mine is on disk.John 14:6
06-08-2011, 11:23 AM #8
Picture of KC w/Caylee @ RM's bedroom w/bruise under eye.....
Osborne was asked to look for pics of Caylee w/pink shirt......graphics.....doesn't have a paper print out of her report has a disc......SA offers copies......
once photo found info imbedded info stays in the file of the pic - able to view that imbeded info.....
5 min recess
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06-08-2011, 11:23 AM #9
LDB: can you tell the jury once an image is located in graphic files can you tell when pic was taken?
yes like with Nikon cool pics info is embedded. that info stays with file, and I can view that.
HHJP: taking a five minuteJohn 14:6
06-08-2011, 11:37 AM #10
JB: this is the photo with the bruise under her eye.
HHJP: I remember reading the instructions. Do I have them, that's the problem. (judge is looking for documents) I know it was handwritten but I am seeing if I kept it. (still looking) Madam court reporter, do you have access? Do a key word search using the word: "brose(?)"
Someone says something
HHJP: we will go off the record. june 24th at 11:33 am. may not june. may 26th that is another date. It should be May 26th and I think he testified around 11:33.
I guess HHJP knows what a "keyword search" is!John 14:6
06-08-2011, 11:41 AM #11
LDB: "Can you tell either in the temporary Internet files, or in the cookies or in the Internet history uh, which user, meaning you said there were two users on the computer, which user is making the search?"
SO: "Yes, the Internet history database is re.... (Baez objects: "It seems facts are not in evidence, I believe the witness testified to two user profiles, not two users. Overruled, witness continues) ...the temporary files database will record which user account was logged in and active at the time the search was conducted so that's what it's recording as opposed to an individual user sitting at the keyboard which obviously it wouldn't know, it can only know which user is active at the time the search is conducted."
LDB: "Alright, but the temporary internet files will record which user account is being accessed at the time?"
SO: "That's correct."
LDB: "Is that also true with the internet history?"
LDB: "How about any of the cookies that appear?"
SO: "That's correct."
LDB: "What about once a file, or files are deleted? Will the record associated with the deleted files tell you which user account generated that original search?"
SO: "No. That information is no longer available."
LDB: "Were you asked by Detective Yuri Melich to perform a keyword search for the word "chloroform" *witness grins* or any alternate spellings of that word?"
SO: "Yes I was."
LDB: "When did that happen?"
SO: "Sometime around August 2008, I think late August 2008."
LDB: "and how was that keyword search performed?"
SO: "In the same manner that the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales keyword search was performed. I input that word into NCASE, spelled correctly and spelled incorrectly and came up with keyword search hits for both."
LDB: "Was there a particular location on the computer where you were able to determine where the keyword search hits were performed?"
LDB: "Where was that?"
SO "The keywords appeared in unallocated or deleted space on the hard drive."
LDB: "Are you able to then view the information associated with those hits?"
SO: "I'm sorry? Am I able to what?"
LDB: "View any of the information that is in deleted space or unallocated space?"
LDB: "What can you see?"
SP: "Well, because it's in deleted space, it's hit or miss as to whether you get an entire Internet record or not. In this case, with the "chloroform" keyword search hit we were able to recover a complete internet history from Mozilla FireFox. The complete history meaning right from the beginning of the code that begins the programming to create the page right to the very end of the page. So we basically, got a complete internet history record from unallocated space that had been deleted."
LDB: "You said that that is sometimes difficult depending on user activity, what did you mean?"
SO: "Right, when we were talking earlier about overwriting space with deleted files, there's always an opportunity when you delete a file especially a very, very large file that new data being saved to the computer will overwrite some of the data, some of the old data that was deleted. That did not happen in this case. We were able to recover an entire internet history record."
LDB: "And how is it, you know it is an entire record? What is it about the information that makes you able to tell us that?"
SO: *grin* "Because I turned it over to my sergeant who is an expert in that area. Um, I am not. (Baez objects to strike I did not hear why, HJBP: "sustained.")"
LDB: "Alright, so the information, that information, you alerted another individual you located, you had hits in unallocated space?"
SO: "When NCASE (?) reported back to me the fact that it found the word chloroform spelled correctly or not, I was able to look at the language surrounding that word and I realized, I recognized it as a file as an Internet database file. I looked around a little bit to see if I could figure out if it was Internet Explorer, or if it was some other type of browser but since I am not that familiar, I was not able to determine that. i went back to the beginning of the record because I don't know where within a web page the word chloroform would have appeared so, it was just very difficult for me at that time to figure that out so I found the search hit and turned it over to my Sergeant from there."
"She's safe. She's in God's loving arms. In a lot of ways, I'm content by the fact that she will never have to have her heart broken, or see the constant negativity that our society breeds -nor will she ever be abused or taken advantage of." -Casey Anthony
"They just want Caylee back, that's all they're worried about right now,"- Casey Anthony
"I'm so angry and disappointed in our country's legal system, it makes me sick." -Casey Anthony
"I guess you could say I am living for free off the kindness of strangers." -Casey Anthony
"(Both of my parents are) not working, still, and yet, have the means to travel all over the country and don't feel that they have to explain where or why. Odd, right? -Casey Anthony
I am so sorry Caylee.
06-08-2011, 11:42 AM #12
HHJP: Lets' bring them in I will put something together right quick. You may return the jury.
All rise for the jury
HHJP: Ladies and gents the photo remember the previous instruction regarding the bruise of Caylee Marie it was not the result of abuse or anything of that nature.
LDB: able to locate the printed info regarding the photo?
LDB: was this photo among a collection of photos given to you on a thumb drive from YM?
LDB: was the photo on RM computer?
It was and it was on both, on the thumb drive and computer
LDB: you said that the abilty to determine the date is in photo
LDB: when was it taken?
january 28 2008
LDB: when you say the camera, the date it was set to you did not have actual camera
it was not submitted for analysis
LDB: permission to publish and show to jury?
HHJP: you may
LDB: was this photo likewise provided on thumb drive by YM?
JB: objection to dates being provided
HHJP: approach the bench
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06-08-2011, 11:42 AM #13
HHBP - reminds jury about bruise under the eye of Caylee is not proof of any abuse whatsoever....
Osborne located photo on a thumb drive from YM originate from the Globe....photo in 12 on the thumb drive and on Mr. Morales computer ....found on both....date photo taken based on data imbedded date camera set 1/28/08...didn't have the camera as it wasnt' submitted for analysis....publish to jury
Pic of Caylee sit on couch w/kc holding a guitar....(object to dates...Approach)
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06-08-2011, 11:56 AM #14
LDB: time and the date in states 13 was taken, the date the camera was set to
LDB: I will start over. can you tell from info from computer what type of camera took photo?
LDB: what type
cannon power shot
LDB: other info embedded in foto?
LDB: date and time when camera was set embeded, what date was the camera set to when pic taken?
march 169th 2008
LDB: nothing else
HHJP: cross examination
JB: I want to clear up with user profiles on computer, there are two profiles?
user created profiles yes
JB: that does not mean only two users?
JB: there are various searches are there not?
yes various searches
JB: there could be multiple users using one profile
JB: one: no one has told password and computer is turned off and it is done.
JB: is that a yes?
JB: if I have a password protected area it is the owner area not the casey area right?
JB: I have logged in and it goes to sleep I don't have to put in pass word again?
it depends on the setting on the computer
JB: but you don't know that?
not on this computer
JB: as far as you know someone could come along and not have to put in password?
JB: key word for chloroform?
JB: date and time?
aug 20th 2008 or shortly there after
JB: the date you think these searches were run?
my sargent has that info to testify to
JB: I understand. What we were talking about as far as the camera was concerned, you never saw?
which one? cannon power shot? I did not see that one
JB: you don't know if the time settings are correct or if they set them at all?
I do not
JB: may people find setting time difficult on VCRs and things. (VCR's Jose )
is checking documents
JB: you inspected RM computer and you ran searches...
yes(is looking at records)
JB: you were asked to run searches for chloroform?
JB: also no photos of chloroform on his computer?
yes, my record says no pics or searches for chloroform on that computer.
JB: defense evidence one: (pic of "win her over with chloroform" RM the BUS is headed your way!) Are you familiar with this photograph?
JB: yes may I?John 14:6
06-08-2011, 12:01 PM #15
The date the camera was set to....recognize 13 in evidence ...appeared on a thumbdrive given by YM, same photo on RM computer....can tell the type of camera took photo - cannon powershot sd870.....other info imbed into photo date camera set to....March 19,2008.
Cross by JB
Det. Osborne - user profile on computer....2 profiles user created....not mean only 2 people using this computer...various searches internet on the computer....multiple users using 1 profile....password only means something if that person told someone password and if computer turned off...owner profile password protected - log in...computer stays on - goes to sleep - don't have to relog password? depends on computer settings....one min, 5 min, 5 hrs. or all day ....didn't ascertain that on the computer...if leave it on anyone could use it and not log on password.....correct......8/20/08 ish or shortly thereafter....don't know info about temp. internet searches prepare to testify to the Supv. did that ....cannon powershot never saw that camera....don't know if time settings were correct...don't know if person set time when purchased camera.....setting time on vcrs and cameras people find difficult (object- sustained) does every computer and camera have same exact time set? no....you inspected RM's computer? yes.....JB obtaining binder from kc - asked to run searches on RM for chloroform...indicated no photos of chloroform on his computer....no web pics or pages referencing chloroform on that computer. Defense evidence #1 - overhead - LDB tells how to position it on overhead.....JB doesn't have it on the screen...
recognize this pic? yes seen it....posted on RM myspace account? not aware....win her over with chloroform...what does this indicate to you? (object-sustain) see in photo...couple man woman dining man has white clothe reaching around behind her shoulder....if RM posted this on his myspace ...on another computer? She has no idea...how this photo doesn't show up on his computer posted on myspace....one way can do it from another computer or from phone....doesn't mean never there....not there when she examined - if deleted and overwritten inthe unallocated space if she didn't find it....pretty much with any computer searches dealing with unallocated space....no further questions....thank you
Re-direct: LDb keyword search would pixels imbedded in picture be accessible? no - pixels are represented in hexidecimal not discernable in readable form,...words in a picture doesn't appear as a word it appears as a pixelated picture - would not have been detected in word search.....RM computer did not contain any chloroform references..
In you report specified no references to word chloroform nor pictures that she found.
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