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    brand

    not at all. my understanding is that the rocking x was a brand used on a stable of kids - possibly at a ranch outside of colorado city CO.

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    Strangely...the middle boy in the "3 pose" picture looks more like Johnny Gosch than the boy in the 15 shirt.

    Compare with the Gosch picture here:

    http://www.johnnygosch.com/history.htm

    Maybe just me though...

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    Among all of the disturbing bits of information that has come out concerning Johhny Gosch and the possible involvement of organized pedo rings, one of the most personally disturbing accusations is the mentioning of Dr. Hunter S. Thompson as an active participant. I have always been a fan of HST's writing and respected his "tell it the way it is" style of journalism (with some theatrical embellishments, of course).

    One of the child whistleblowers in the Franklin case specifically states that HST was involved with the Franklin group (and the Bohemian Grove occult ceremonies). The informant also stated that Thompson had filmed various aspects of the child auctions. It should be stated also that HST lived in Boulder, CO for most of his adult life (the CO connection again?).

    Either tellingly or coincidently, within 24 hours of the first post questioning whether Jeff Gannon was Johhny Gosch, HST committed suicide by gunshot.

    Does anyone know any information concerning possible involvement by Thompson in these rings?

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    Hunter Thompson

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie
    Among all of the disturbing bits of information that has come out concerning Johhny Gosch and the possible involvement of organized pedo rings, one of the most personally disturbing accusations is the mentioning of Dr. Hunter S. Thompson as an active participant. I have always been a fan of HST's writing and respected his "tell it the way it is" style of journalism (with some theatrical embellishments, of course).

    One of the child whistleblowers in the Franklin case specifically states that HST was involved with the Franklin group (and the Bohemian Grove occult ceremonies). The informant also stated that Thompson had filmed various aspects of the child auctions. It should be stated also that HST lived in Boulder, CO for most of his adult life (the CO connection again?).

    Either tellingly or coincidently, within 24 hours of the first post questioning whether Jeff Gannon was Johhny Gosch, HST committed suicide by gunshot.

    Does anyone know any information concerning possible involvement by Thompson in these rings?
    Only what I read in the Franklin book. According to that, he was the chief filmer on a child snuff flick. Obviously no proof but I believe that he also killed himself shortly after Troy Boner's unfortunate death in Albuquerque.

    Noreen Gosch asked, "What is the message?" I am too. Jon Benet, Johnny...maybe the message is that they are "housecleaning" and still can take care of people who get out of line.

    I always thought John Ramsey's boss, Fleet White, could have been asked a few more questions. But that's just me.

    Certainly nothing in Hunter Thompson's philosophy, anarchistic lifestyle or behavior suggests he was ABOVE this kind of behavior.

    You know, I wish all our monsters looked like monsters. Especially famous ones. If they were all ugly, poor pervs we could sort of rest at night.

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    Thanks for the links guys. I am going to start reading all this today> i have also bought a computer version of the David Icke book. sounds interesting.Will let you know what I think.

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    Suspect Seen Early On

    I'm a little amazed that the media hasn't done some investigative reporting on this case. If the pictures are genuine, why isn't media all over this?

    Richmond Times-Dispatch
    May 2, 1987
    Author: Mark Holmberg
    Times-Dispatch staff writer


    Johnny's father, John Gosch, said there is no question that his son was kidnapped. He said other paperboys talked to the kidnapper that morning and a good description of the car he used, including some of the numbers on the license plate, was pieced together.

    Gosch, now employed by America Cyanamid in West Des Moines, remains convinced that local police moved too slowly. "They took the easy way out," said Gosch over the telephone Thursday night. "They figured he was a runaway."

    Gosch and his wife launched an all-out campaign to find their son. For four years private investigators were on the case, costing $200,000.

    There have been about 15 reported sightings of the boy, mostly in the South and Southwest. According to press accounts from eyewitnesses, many of these sightings ended with a man dragging Johnny away.

    In mid-1985, a dollar bill came into circulation with the words "I am alive. Johnny Gosch" written on it. Three handwriting analysts have identified the signature as Johnny Gosch's.

    Even more agonizing were the three calls, each less than 40 seconds long and just minutes apart, that Mrs. Gosch received in March of 1984. She recognized her son's voice, pleading for help. Each conversation was terminated by the phone being slammed down.

    "Even though we haven't found our son yet, the person who took him is still out there," said Gosch, who has two children older than Johnny. "Those kind of people have a profile -- they will do it again and again until they get caught."
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    Chicago Tribune
    August 21, 1985
    Author: Bob Greene


    Witnesses said that they had seen a middle-aged man with dark eyes, black hair and a mustache talking to Johnny minutes before he disappeared.

    (My note: Does the above represent a self described description of Paul Bonnacio (sp?) who claimed to have been one of the two abductors of Johnny Gosch?

    Interesting case! Tragic. As has probably been discussed, the photos suggest 1) that Johnny was kept alive for an indeterminate period of time. That the perp had the capability to keep several children at one time under his control (was there more than one perp?). That if the photos are authentic, this perp almost certainly had other victims? Are there young boys missing from around this time period from other states?

    So many questions; so few answers.







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    Johnny Gosch - Suspect Seen

    A new thread to discuss this tragic case, and some new (old, but not currently reported) info about the incident. Why hasn't the media done some investigative reporting on this? If the pictures are authentic, the perp or a close ally are still around. Briefly he was abducted in 1982, (thanks "twinkiesmom")and new photos, as discussed elsewhere, are in the hands of Des Moines authorities. Bizarre intrigue, frustration and pedophile conspiracy theories followed over the years.

    There is somewhere, according to some accounts I don't have a link for, a sketch of the alleged perp. Does this alleged perp (above) match the self described description of Paul Bonnacio (sp?) who claims to have been one of two abductors of Johnny? If the pictures are authentic, Johnny was kept alive for an indeterminate amount of time along with at least two other boys.

    A fascinating and tragic case. Can we put our minds to it, avoiding for the most part the conspiracy theories?

    Background:

    On Sunday, September 5, 1982, in the affluent suburb of West Des Moines, Johnny Gosch left home for his paper route before dawn. Though it was customary for Johnny to wake his father to help with the route, the boy took only the family dog, Gretchen, with him that morning. Other paper carriers for The Des Moines Register would later report having seen Gosch at the paper drop, picking up his newspapers. It was the last sighting of Johnny Gosch that can be corroborated by multiple witnesses. Gosch was last seen wearing blue rubber thong sandals, warm up exercise pants, and a white sweatshirt reading "Kim's Academy" on the back.

    On September 1, 2006, CNN reported that Gosch's mother found two photographs left at her front door, which she posted on her website. One photo apparently shows her son and two other boys bound and gagged. The second photo appears to show 12-year-old Johnny Gosch with his mouth gagged, his hands and feet tied, and an apparent human brand on his shoulder. (Wikipedia - abbreviated)

    While none of the contemporary accounts give much detail for the actual abduction, earlier accounts offer a little additional insight --

    Richmond Times-Dispatch
    May 2, 1987
    Author: Mark Holmberg
    Times-Dispatch staff writer

    Johnny's father, John Gosch, said there is no question that his son was kidnapped. He said other paperboys talked to the kidnapper that morning and a good description of the car he used, including some of the numbers on the license plate, was pieced together.
    Gosch, now employed by America Cyanamid in West Des Moines, remains convinced that local police moved too slowly. "They took the easy way out," said Gosch over the telephone Thursday night. "They figured he was a runaway."

    Gosch and his wife launched an all-out campaign to find their son. For four years private investigators were on the case, costing $200,000.

    There have been about 15 reported sightings of the boy, mostly in the South and Southwest. According to press accounts from eyewitnesses, many of these sightings ended with a man dragging Johnny away.

    In mid-1985, a dollar bill came into circulation with the words "I am alive. Johnny Gosch" written on it. Three handwriting analysts have identified the signature as Johnny Gosch's.

    Even more agonizing were the three calls, each less than 40 seconds long and just minutes apart, that Mrs. Gosch received in March of 1984. She recognized her son's voice, pleading for help. Each conversation was terminated by the phone being slammed down.

    "Even though we haven't found our son yet, the person who took him is still out there," said Gosch, who has two children older than Johnny. "Those kind of people have a profile -- they will do it again and again until they get caught."
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    Chicago Tribune
    August 21, 1985
    Author: Bob Greene
    Witnesses said that they had seen a middle-aged man with dark eyes, black hair and a mustache talking to Johnny minutes before he disappeared.

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    Breaks my heart everytime i come onto this thread. Seems to me that who ever took Johnny may have been liveing in a mobile kind of environment. One of our good fellow posters mentioned trailers or RV's. Could this be a possibility?

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    He was kidnapped in 1982 not 1984.

    Paul Bonacci would have been a teenager at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godzorphan
    Only what I read in the Franklin book. According to that, he was the chief filmer on a child snuff flick. Obviously no proof but I believe that he also killed himself shortly after Troy Boner's unfortunate death in Albuquerque.

    Noreen Gosch asked, "What is the message?" I am too. Jon Benet, Johnny...maybe the message is that they are "housecleaning" and still can take care of people who get out of line.

    I always thought John Ramsey's boss, Fleet White, could have been asked a few more questions. But that's just me.

    Certainly nothing in Hunter Thompson's philosophy, anarchistic lifestyle or behavior suggests he was ABOVE this kind of behavior.

    You know, I wish all our monsters looked like monsters. Especially famous ones. If they were all ugly, poor pervs we could sort of rest at night.
    Fleet White was John Ramsey's boss? I thought he was a friend and they raced boats together. And that Fleet White and his wife didn't really have jobs. (wrong thread, I know. It just confused me).


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    Fleet White was John Ramsey's boss? I thought he was a friend and they raced boats together. And that Fleet White and his wife didn't really have jobs. (wrong thread, I know. It just confused me).
    Yes, I understand John Ramsey worked for Fleet White's SMALL computer co. in Georgia - the company got huge (how about that) and John and Patsy were moved to Colorado, where their financial status changed radically. Shortly thereafter they opened ANOTHER computer co. in Amsterdam, Holland...hm.

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    I'm not sure your information is right on that, GO... Fleet and his family were in the oil business and were from California. I don't they ever lived in Georgia.

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    Although I"m not familiar with the case, I did see the news report of the two pictures sent to Johnny's mother.

    Fox News O'Reilly Factor did an interview with Mrs. Gosch and her private investigator twice this week. Mrs. Gosch stated that at 2:30 one morning she was awoken by a man who came to her house and said he was her son, Johnny. He identified himself by showing her a birthmark on his stomach. They sat and talked for about 2 hours in her living room. He was very frightened. He told her the story of what had happened to him. He told her that he had been abducted by a child pornography/prostitution ring. He said that if they knew he was there and talking they would kill him. He gave her names of the individuals who had abducted him. Mrs. Gosch wanted to call the police or her private investigator, and Johnny told her if she called anyone, he would leave. He feared for his life. He left, and she later called her private investigator and the police.
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    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by thelmadawg
    In mid-1985, a dollar bill came into circulation with the words "I am alive. Johnny Gosch" written on it. Three handwriting analysts have identified the signature as Johnny Gosch's.



    I thought that was in the summer of 1986 when that was found. Also, wasn't that found in Colorado?

    I seem to recall also that the morning of the kidnapping, WHO radio had broadcast an alert that there may have been a kidnapping in West DSM but then back peddled later that morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiesmom
    He was kidnapped in 1982 not 1984.

    Paul Bonacci would have been a teenager at the time.
    And that means what Twinkiesmom? Check the web for crimes committed by teenagers. Being young no longer dismisses one from being involved with crimes; according to the last time I read/heard news accounts (which was today). It may, very well indeeed, LEGALLY give them a "way out" from they're choices however, teenagers are as much involved in crime as are "adults". TRES pathetic, but a reality

    My ,from looking at both sides (okay,ooookay; so I'm fed up with crime and morons, inclusive of but not limited to some of the "innocent young of our society; an oxymoron, imooc)


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