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    PA - Robert Caravella & Carol Hann for rape, neglect of 12yo boy, Plymouth, 2011

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    Respectfully, a child is not "forced into intercourse" A child is raped. Plain and simple. The details are appalling:

    From the link above:

    Plymouth [PA] couple charged with rape of child kept secluded from outside world

    "A Plymouth couple has been charged with rape of a child after police say they sexually abused a 13-year-old boy, a child who never learned how to use eating utensils or how to brush his teeth as the couple kept him secluded from the outside world. Charges filed against Carol Ann Hann, 43, and Robert Caravella, 52, both of 210 Gould St., describe the life of a child who was never enrolled in school, never made friends and lived in a filthy home with garbage, rotten food and urine-soaked towels strewn about the floor. Caravella exposed the boy to pornography when he was 8 years old, and eventually Hann forced the boy to have sex with her [SHOULD SAY "RAPED THE CHILD"] as Caravella watched, police said...."

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    ".....The child was removed from the home, placed with other family and enrolled in counseling, according to court documents. In January, the boy revealed to his therapist that Hann often had sex with him while Caravella directed them what to do, police said. The boy said he was afraid to refuse, according to court documents...."

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    Hmmm. Looks like Caravella is in a lot of trouble. Do the math. Those little girls would have been extremely young at the time of the abuse.

    http://citizensvoice.com/plymouth-ma...#axzz1P6SXQ6lT

    Plymouth man charged with sex abuse of girls
    March 23, 2011

    "A 51-year-old man is facing a slew of child sex charges for sexually abusing two young girls at homes in Nanticoke and Plymouth between 2002 and 2005, police said today. Robert Caravella is accused of preying on and violating the girls at his former home on North Chestnut Street in Nanticoke and his current home on Gould Street in Plymouth. The girls, now 15 and 10, recently described the horrors of the alleged abuse to investigators, arrest papers say. Caravella made the girls view pornographic magazines and then forcibly subjected them to sexual acts..."

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    "....He is charged with 36 counts of charges, which include involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault of a victim less than 13, aggravated indecent assault of a child, illegal contact with a minor, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of children...."

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    I don't quite know what's going on here but the same paper with the same date carries another article with far more details than the link in the first post above. Maybe they expounded on the article later:

    http://citizensvoice.com/news/couple...#axzz1P6SXQ6lT

    Couple charged with rape of child kept secluded from outside world

    "....The boy told investigators he was afraid to refuse, worried Hann would yell at him like she did to an autistic man who also lived at the home, court documents said. The abuse started when Caravella exposed the boy to pornography when he was 8 years old, police said. The couple sometimes watched explicit movies with the boy, an activity that devolved into intercourse between Hann and the boy several times a week, according to police documents.

    After such encounters, the boy would often express anger by killing one of Hann's cats and told police he killed up to 50 cats during the time of the abuse, investigators said...."


    more at link (Far more details and yet the same title too. Strange.)

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    Carol Hann's MS, I believe:

    http://www.myspace.com/tigress1167

    Her blog/CPS story:

    http://www.myspace.com/tigress1167/blog/541688262

    19 comments under her blog post with updates from her viewpoint.



    The MS page links to here:

    http://www.stickam.com/tigfightingcps

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    cps, family, fight, music, tigsduets, tigsnocrapclub, unite, video

    Live Description:I am here to entertain, show awareness to a problem that is epidemic, and make friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missizzy View Post
    Respectfully, a child is not "forced into intercourse" A child is raped. Plain and simple.
    Snipped.

    I appreciate the sentiment, but you're really splitting hairs here. Not only does it indicate the same thing (what do you think rape essentially is?) but the point is being made that it isn't as simple as rape, that there was direction and coercion from not one, but two adults.

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    Add this to the list of people who should be locked up forever. End. Of. Story.
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    Laece--I'm not personally offended at all, as you have a right to your opinion. The words, though, offend me, on behalf of victims and survivors everywhere. I'm merely attempting to point out that the media has long minimized the sexual abuse of children by using words ie. "sexual relationship", "sexual intercourse", or even molestation. The fact is that a child cannot consent to intercourse thus vaginal, oral or anal penetration would always be rape. I think it's quite clear and not "splitting hairs". To me calling this act "forced intercourse" is akin to using the phrase "forced cessation of life" for the crime of murder.

    A horrid case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missizzy View Post
    Carol Hann's MS, I believe:

    http://www.myspace.com/tigress1167

    Her blog/CPS story:

    http://www.myspace.com/tigress1167/blog/541688262

    19 comments under her blog post with updates from her viewpoint.



    The MS page links to here:

    http://www.stickam.com/tigfightingcps

    Personal Tags:
    cps, family, fight, music, tigsduets, tigsnocrapclub, unite, video

    Live Description:I am here to entertain, show awareness to a problem that is epidemic, and make friends
    I just don't know what to make of this woman. The allegations are horrible! Disgusting. She almost seems to make light of the situation by being so smarmy and childish in the way she describes her dealings w/CPS.
    IMO
    Love that her first thought on the live description is to entertain??? not much about the boyfriend/husband. It's hard to see where her priorities lay. IMO her son ranks low but the drama of all this is #1.


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    Her blog posts are interesting. I read the ones on her myspace last night. Of note is that she blames all this on her niece and denies the sexual charges in so many words. She talks about being in touch with the child's school BUT no where does she deny that the child did not go to school before all this happened. She does imply that he was home schooled, but she never clarifies if he was home schooled when living with her or he is being home schooled now. It's confusing.

    Also, this case started back in Oct. 2010 but charges were not brought until just recently. The article does say the child did not disclose until Feb. 2011.

    I hope we get more information.

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    WOW on the myspace's posts!!!

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    I abhor the fact that the woman is making her case so public but it's fascinating and enlightening to see this through her eyes. I agree that the emphasis seems to be about "winning" and not about the child's best interests. And interesting how she seems to acknowledge that she's dragging her feet about the required therapy and evaluations. I don't want to have to be the one to tell her that there's NO way that that little boy is going home until DHS and LE have cleared this mess up.

    As far as the cats, I'm very curious and disturbed. If the child did indeed kill cats, we've got a real problem. If he even said he killed cats, we've still got a real problem. This boy is tremendously confused and conflicted. I'm hopeful that he's making real progress in his relative's home. Carol Hann does not seem to be the child's birth mother. I wonder if he was informally placed with her by family.

    To be fair, it should be noted that one of the articles does say that some charges concerning the girls have been dropped. Not sure why. My heart goes out to all the children in this extremely dysfunctional family and to the brother with autism. How I hope he's not also a victim.

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    All I can say is that there are some really sick people in this world. I am disgusted and want to vomit after reading that article. What makes people think they can treat other human beings like trash?

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    so can the boy use utensils or brush his teeth? she makes no mention of these allegations in her blog ... although her posts seem to stop 3 months ago - I wonder if they are new allegations from her sister and or cousin

    interesting that she says (per her blog) that her husband has always maintained a silence about the situation

    and this child, her 'son' is actually her biological nephew? and he was placed with her cousin ... someone she used to be best friends with until this happened

    I don`t think they should`ve placed him with family - clearly they have axes to grind with one another and cannot be impartial - makes me wonder what kind of stories have been planted in the boy`s mind and how much support and counselling this boy has received

    ugh, what a mess of dysfunction!

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