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    CM:We don't have any obligation to put on a defense -JP:"Y'all lied to me

    Oh my I just don't know where to start. What is going on here, will Casey get a mistrial?
    Bombshell! CM: We don't have any obligation to put on a defense.They want Judge Perry to tell the jury!

    Could mean that the jury will start deliberating over the weekend?

    I was listening in on WESH.com while the side bar was going on today at 1PM and what I heard makes me wonder if this is all a ploy for a mistrial? Now, this is not verbatim to what was really said..but thanks to ThinkTank, jmfstl, and little_miss_smart for posting the links we can all read for ourselves
    what was really said.

    Here is how I heard it, That CM told the judge yesterday that he wanted the judge to tell the jury that the defense did not have to present any kind of defense/testimony/witness?


    That they did not have to say anything at all? Then the reporter said that judge Perry told the defense that he did not believe anything from the defense that they are liars!? That they had told him that they did have a defense and now they are lying...

    Could this cause a mistrial? Casey looks mighty happy.
    I know what I heard and my husband heard it to..anyone else hear this and more?



    "Snip" Originally Posted by jmfstl
    Not sure if this has been posted yet. It is the sidebar from yesterday when HHJP said the DT will be putting on a CIC and CM gets upset.

    http://211.43.148.137/10001/854A7/UN...N_00000051.3gp

    And I got the information from here

    MikeDeForest6 Mike DeForest
    Judge Perry to #CaseyAnthony lawyers: "Y'all lied to me" and "I can't trust one thing your side says anymore " http://ow.ly/1tLSpk
    "Snip"ThinkTank

    working link:
    http://211.43.148.137/10001/854A7/UN...N_00000051.3gp

    also
    http://ow.ly/1tLSpk

    link to the full 5-page sidebar transcript
    http://www.clickorlando.com/download...4/28230782.pdf

    link to the video report about the sidebar transcript
    http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28227726/index.html





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    http://211.43.148.137/10001/854A7/UN...N_00000051.3gp

    Judge Perry sure is fed up with the DT

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    Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the defense. I think they have set her up for appeal on not getting proper defense. Granted I believe 100% she is guilty but this trial is just crazy IMO.

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    I asked this in another thread so I'm sorry for the repost but I'm dying for an answer....
    Probably a dumb question and it may have been asked in another thread but I'm throwing it out anyway...

    What did HHJBP mean when he said (not once, but twice during the side bar); "if you don't do that, then I will fall on the sword and do it"??

    What is exactly would he do? "Falling on a sword" typically means sacrificing yourself for another - I cannot imagine he'd sacrifice himself for either side (especially not the defense).

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    OMG what's next with this DT?! They blow my mind! Certainly HHJBP will not allow this? Hmm question for the legal eagles maybe?

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    Holy Cow! Just read the side bar transcript...all I can say is, WOW - The fact that HHJP now (if not a LONG TIME ago) knows them to be <untruthful, unusual> people. (Trying to stay on TOS)...Just WOW!
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    GA said this very, very early on; No body no case, No evidence no case.
    (I am not quoting him verbatim).

    Everything I have seen or read it seems like a very weak case and it looks like a miss-trial to me. AT THIS POINT.

    IMHO - GA did mastery clean up and I have said this from the start.
    KC should call him father of the year - instead she crucified him.
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    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballMom View Post
    I asked this in another thread so I'm sorry for the repost but I'm dying for an answer....
    Probably a dumb question and it may have been asked in another thread but I'm throwing it out anyway...

    What did HHJBP mean when he said (not once, but twice during the side bar); "if you don't do that, then I will fall on the sword and do it"??

    What is exactly would he do? "Falling on a sword" typically means sacrificing yourself for another - I cannot imagine he'd sacrifice himself for either side (especially not the defense).
    Respectfully quote: He would have to face the jury and eat his words (about the DT putting on evidence, how many days, etc)...And cannot mention this little exchange (side bar) with them and blame the DT. Hence, he is the fall guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballMom View Post
    I asked this in another thread so I'm sorry for the repost but I'm dying for an answer....
    Probably a dumb question and it may have been asked in another thread but I'm throwing it out anyway...

    What did HHJBP mean when he said (not once, but twice during the side bar); "if you don't do that, then I will fall on the sword and do it"??

    What is exactly would he do? "Falling on a sword" typically means sacrificing yourself for another - I cannot imagine he'd sacrifice himself for either side (especially not the defense).
    OMG this transcript was hilarious!!!

    What HHJP meant by "falling on the sword" is that he is willing to embarrass himself in front of the jury by saying, "I know I told you guys that the defense would be presenting evidence but I was wrong, it was my mistake alone, the defense has no such obligation and I misunderstood, blah blah blah."

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94

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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    GA said this very, very early on; No body no case, No evidence no case.
    (I am not quoting him verbatim).

    Everything I have seen or read it seems like a very weak case and it looks like a miss-trial to me. AT THIS POINT.
    IMHO - GA did mastery clean up and I have said this from the start.
    KC should call him father of the year - instead she crucified him.

    Sadly, I agree with you on this.

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    What I take from the sidebar is that the Judge has been very much trying not to inconvenience the jury as far as planning goes, and in doing so he has mentioned "The Defense Case" when in fact the burden of proof is on the State and the Defense doesnt have to put on anything. Of course, there is that little matter of promising things in the opening statement, but I digress. The defense is simply wanting a curative instruction so that the jury doesn't begin thinking that the Defense has to put anything on ... and much as I dislike the DT I agree that these comments could be viewed on appeal as "burden shifting" on to the defense. No one on the State side (at least) wants to try this thing more than one time!


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    Quote Originally Posted by carla79 View Post
    Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the defense. I think they have set her up for appeal on not getting proper defense. Granted I believe 100% she is guilty but this trial is just crazy IMO.
    that's what i've always thought, that she'll get an appeal b/c her attorneys suck.

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    I'm very concerned by this since it looks like the DT is trying to pull a fast one and go for a mistrial.
    Can someone please explain the implications of this transcript?

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    OMG Dragonlady those 2 pics are freaky!!! lol.

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    I just don't see how the defense could not put on a defense after their opening statement they made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    OMG this transcript was hilarious!!!

    What HHJP meant by "falling on the sword" is that he is willing to embarrass himself in front of the jury by saying, "I know I told you guys that the defense would be presenting evidence but I was wrong, it was my mistake alone, the defense has no such obligation and I misunderstood, blah blah blah."
    Thank you!!!! That scenario would be unfortunate on so many levels...

    I cannot imagine the amount of (insert your censored word of choice) that runs down hill and hits the gigantic windmill at the bottom - IF HHJB is placed in that position....

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