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    Quote Originally Posted by TxLady2 View Post
    I don't either, but there's always that possibility. I was merely saying that it has happened before, and probably will again.

    For the record, I don't think it has anything at all to do with a plea, nor do I think Mr. Mason is wanting out, when it's so close to winding down. I think this has to do with the witness not being allowed to testify today. However, I don't really believe Ashton would knowingly commit any misconduct, but it could be that the DT believes he did not let them know at the proper time, and this has to be cleared up. I may not be in love with Ashton, but I don't think he is stupid, he's actually pretty sharp, I just don't like his personality. So shoot me.
    But there were lots of other witnesses waiting...I just don't see losing an entire day at this point over one witness issue unless it was an issue that could upend the case...
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    Yesterday CM asked for the court to consider a mistrial. Today CM asks for a sidebar without the jury present. Could a mistrial issue come about because the judge has stated he will deal with a defense contempt of court issue when the trial is over which may appear to CM as a bias issue?


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    So let me give this straight.....Caylee drowns in family pool and it takes Lee two yrs to realize Caylee is really dead......WTH??? Makes no sense to me at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    I thought I read that the other DP atty is only qualified in mitigation phase...could be wrong...and if this was the reason, why not just continue today, anyway?
    The way I'm understanding all of this is that CM has to be there because he is the only one who is DP qualified. JB only agreed with the understanding the he (JB) would be the LEAD attorney. CM might be threatening to step down as a means to get JB to agree to let him take over the lead. Didn't they all go to CM's office to discuss things? Why CM's office rather than JB's?


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    What ever it was it has to threaten the whole case or it would have went on as scheduled.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony2 View Post
    A hostile witness?? LOL
    State Direct

    DT cross


    And whatever you do, do not bring up his cousins the coyotes!

    Unless I have included a link, it is my opinion and only my opinion that I am expressing.


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    When is hornsby supposed to talk with VinnieP ?

    I saw it in a tweet earlier but thought he said 2, guess not
    Just my opinions (and I have been wrong before)!

    pinkfly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony2 View Post
    Speaking of dogs.... this video clip is hilarious...

    YouTube - ‪Casey Anthony Eyewitness‬‏
    WOW....I would seriously love to hear an animal expert's take on this...
    RIP Baby Caylee...You will be remembered.


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    Would the state not be represented during a discussion of mistrial?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Probably nothing, but the headscarf and dress don't match either. For some reason, that struck me as odd.
    LOL maybe baby Caylee dressed herself. The first thing I noticed about this picture was someone is taking a picture of a small child opening a door that goes into a back yard with a swimming pool. WHY would anyone take a picturte like this???? I would think you would use this to teach the child NO! Each time I see this picture through out this thread the second thing I notice is her arm. It looks so long and thin. Not personally knowing baby Caylee I can't tell who this is unless I see her face. I wouldn't put it pass JB to do something sneaky though.
    Last edited by grammieto5; 06-25-2011 at 02:20 PM. Reason: typos silly puppy :-)


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    Nail on the head!

    Quote Originally Posted by SCWldneart View Post
    I'm reading this as CM and ICA want JB to step down.
    I think you may be right..
    Sequence behind doors was.. 1st all, then just the DT, then all with KC again
    Then the sealing of all of it. Seems to make sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bon View Post
    So let me give this straight.....Caylee drowns in family pool and it takes Lee two yrs to realize Caylee is really dead......WTH??? Makes no sense to me at all.
    Cindy says the same thing.

    Denial?

    Maybe b/c they did not actually "see" Caylee they will in their grief look for Caylee forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennyMac View Post
    I went back and watched the video of what little bit of proceedings we had this morning and was caught by the following. Video Here: http://www.youtube.com/user/weshtv?f.../l/XZ_qhfMF2oM

    JA again has to bring attention to another possible discovery infraction by JB
    JB accuses judge and SA of fabricating issues, says enough is enough, the DT is not willing to go into these issues, then begins to backslide into "Well we'll tailor the testimony to only include what was in the depo, take out slides, yada yada yada" HHJP basically says, I'll look at the documentation and decide for myself. Mason then begins mumbling about something requiring a sidebar and JUST AS he begins to speak into the mic, the asst attys on DT hands JB this document he just walked in with. JB seems to be distracted and begins reading in earnest.

    All attys walk to sidebar. Watch what happens from the 20:37 mark.
    Mason begins to speak to HHJP, JB interrupts him with hand gestures, Mason's reaction is something like 'whoa there sonnie, let me deal with this'.
    Mason begins to speak again, but JB starts pulling back, taps Mason on the back, then asks for a brief moment alone with Mason.

    Mason concurs, JB & Mason step away. Look at HHJP's facial expressions. SA turns away to try and keep from looking at each other and falling apart (my opinion) JA stands there nodding his head up and down like "yea yea yea yea knew this was gonna happen"
    Mason and JB step back up to sidebar, Mason begins speaking again.
    He then begins to present something to HHJP, HHJP says "fine, ok" and they all walk away.

    The DT all walks directly into the holding area with ICA, whereupon a conversation about some serious subject begins. The courtroom (Kathy B reports) can hear Mason's raised voice at his team. They return, another convo takes place, all gods children go into chambers with HHJP. During this one of the junior attys tells ICA they need to go back into the holding area, ICA tries to put her off so she can read the live transcript of what is going on in chambers, but junior atty will not be put off and ICA is marched back into holding for a convo (putting some documentation together?) with junior atty.

    All god's children come back and we are in recess.

    Jean C reported this morning that she was told during her CM interview that he and JB would be 'splitting' the examinations. That didn't happen and now she has been told that CM will be much more involved in dealing with the witnesses from here on out.

    My comments (sorry so long guys) is this - JB has F****D up discovery to the point that CM's reputation is now taking a hit (in CM's mind if not in reality) and he's not going to sit back any longer and let JB bring him down along with this pointless defense.

    I think we have either an attorney in trouble, or we have a witness in trouble - both of which could directly impact a lawyer's reputation/license. I really think JB has done something, or ignored something that was done, to his team's detriment. Man I hope this does not turn into a mistrial.

    The other thing I saw and I've read one tweet but cannot find it now, is that JA returned the copies of the slide show to JB, and I guess they have decided not to use it at all. I think it was KB, but am still looking. That would have been the 'flying saucer' document discussed below this post.
    Excellent post! Really supports the theory that CM is leaving the team, particularly given JB's call to Beth Karas at HLN claiming he is qualified to try a DP case. Cheney is lead attorney on this case; not Baez. Perhaps there is a clash regarding strategy between the two, and CM has had enough of this circus. Gah!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amil View Post
    Yesterday CM asked for the court to consider a mistrial. Today CM asks for a sidebar without the jury present. Could a mistrial issue come about because the judge has stated he will deal with a defense contempt of court issue when the trial is over which may appear to CM as a bias issue?
    It is a bias issue alright - the trouble is it is biased towards the defense. That mistrial had some sanctions attached to the SA and HHJP said fine but we aren't stopping the trial to deal with them now.
    When there is Justice - there is Peace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amil View Post
    Yesterday CM asked for the court to consider a mistrial. Today CM asks for a sidebar without the jury present. Could a mistrial issue come about because the judge has stated he will deal with a defense contempt of court issue when the trial is over which may appear to CM as a bias issue?
    It would be a bias in favor of the defense would it not?

    If HHJP were to proceed with contempt proceedings it would most certainly create an appeal issue...hence he has chosen to wait until after the trial.

    Additionally, he hasn't decided to begin contempt proceedings only stated he is considering them. He has effectively used it as a way to keep JB in line, though after today we see it's made no impression.


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