07-02-2011, 09:59 AM #16
Yes I think she should be prosecuted but I think it is dangerous to say things like she is "well aware Casey killed the baby." I think it is a HUGE leap for a parent to go from thinking your daughter is a princess to thinking she is a murderer. Everything points to Casey being a normal chick up until that moment (and actually after it) just lazy (a trait MANY of her generation has)....though we think we do, we do not know Casey like Cindy does. I think very well that there's a big difference between the murderous Casey and the girl they knew for 23+ years.
Cindy stated she believed the nanny story up until 6 weeks before the trial began.....there's a lot of catching up to US that she has to do.
BUT you cannnot lie on the witness stand - she should be charged but I wouldn't "throw the book" at her....just enough a sentence to sting so she doesn't lie on the appeal.
07-02-2011, 09:59 AM #17
I'm going to take the opposite and unpopular view here, but I don't believe they will charge her with perjury. Yesterday on HLN the point was made by several people that her memory of which day she did the supposed searches could just be wrong. I think that's the way she can wiggle out of perjury charges. So now all she is doing is raising reasonable doubt.
Obviously we all know she is desperate and confused, as she has always been since the beginning of this case. And while Prosecutors may despise her for talking out of both sides of her mouth, I think they will believe she has suffered enough and just leave her alone after the trial is over.
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07-02-2011, 10:00 AM #18
Perjury-No, Obbstruction of Justice?
From researching this issue here and elsewhere, it seems unlikely that she will be prosecuted for perjury. There are a number of discussions on this in the Ask the Lawyers thread.
However, I do believe that she should be charged with obstruction of justice. She and the entire family went to great extremes to obfuscate or obliterate evidence starting with the car on July 15th.
Why oh why would you cover up the "smell of death" in a vehicle that was the last place your missing relatives were seen? That is just indicates knowledge of wrongdoing on some level to me.
They each made it as difficult as possible for any legitimate entity (LE) or organization (TES) to do their respective jobs with investigating this case or searching for their "loved one(s)".
Instead, they took the Jerry Springer approach on talk shows, with con men, having meet and greets, flying around, yelling at Greta Van Susteren, telling Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez she is not a "10" (!!!). Then there is the foundation, the Caylee Marie boat, the guest appearances at the sites of other missing children's homes (Haleigh Cummings, Trenton Duckett etc..).
This family turned this into a zoo from "the get go". CA lead the charge.
Think about how much money the state of Florida and the Federal gvernment put into this giant boondoggle! What else do you think could have been done with all those resources?????
I understand that many donations helped to pay the memorial service, helped with the house foreclosure.
These people are shamelessly self absorbed and just too over the top for words.Knowledge is power....
..Ignorance is bliss!
07-02-2011, 10:05 AM #19
07-02-2011, 10:10 AM #20
JMHO. I think CA feels a lot of guilt. She feels guilt because of the argument she and ICA had on the 15th, that was never brought out in the trial. She may feel guilty, because I believe the flurry of calls on the 16th of June were from ICA wanting them to babysit so she could "do her thing" with AL.
The truth is, CA, nor any mom in that position should not feel guilty over those things. No matter what transpired ICA, and only ICA, made the choice to do away with Caylee.
There are lots of mother and daughter fights in the world every day, but they don't result in a dead child. There are lots of times grandparents can't or do not feel like babysitting, that doesn't result in a dead child.
Cindy perjured herself, out of guilt, IMHO. She needs counseling to understand that people are only responsible for THEIR OWN actions. This whole family lies, to cover up dysfunction. If her daughter is convicted of murder, that is punishment enough.
I pray that when this is over CA&GA take whatever money they get for the LifeTime movie, and move far away and get their marriage and life back together."Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect" Steven Wright
07-02-2011, 10:12 AM #21
She has lost a granddaughter she loved dearly.
She has lost a daughter she loved dearly.
Her daughter will be convicted of murder.
Her once quiet, life will be forever a media circus.
The world will never desist judging her.
She has been proven to be a liar in front of the world.
She may have to watch the State kill her daughter.
She has and will continue to be vilified in the media and on chat boards everywhere.
She will probably never be able to work as a nurse again.
Punishment enough for the sin of trying to protect her family. Cindy is no angel, but she isn't the devil incarnate either. She's a MOTHER.
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07-02-2011, 10:13 AM #23
No. It will be a waste of resources. Move On.
07-02-2011, 10:16 AM #24
My guess is we won’t see any perjury charges against CA once this trial is over. Here’s why……CA told the biggest most obvious lies about the chloroform searches and they were shown to be fabrications. Anyone would know how easy it would be to prove she couldn’t have made the searches once her work records were examined, so why did she lie knowing she would get caught? Did she cut a deal with the SA and tailor her testimony to discredit her daughter and thus save herself from prosecution for previous perjury even though she was committing perjury again by saying she made the searches? The only thing that rings true is that she wanted the world to know that only her daughter could have made those searches and that the murder of Caylee was in fact premeditated by none other than ICA who was the only person that could have made the searches. It seems to me she wants ICA convicted of murder 1 rather than have her lies used against her. One big question remains with this scenario though….Why in the world would JB solicit this false testimony knowing it would be proven to be false? Can’t figure that one out……..Was he hoping all CA’s testimony would be thrown out and thus neutralize all her testimony? Time will tell I guess, or maybe it won’t.As for presumption of innocence until proven guilty….
Since I am not a member of a jury and this is only a discussion board I do not have to abide by the rules of the court in order to express an opinion. If we were to assume that all defendants on this board were innocent, then there really wouldn't be much to discuss.
07-02-2011, 10:18 AM #25
I watched this too, and I don't
recall seeing that footage before.
It was stunning to watch, knowing what we know now...
CA goes on and on and on about ICA's fake job,
goes into the fake scholarship that she couldn't take because of Caylee,
(nevermind that she didn't finish high school)
on and on and on...
I have no doubt that this family has suffered terribly
because of ICA throughout the years,
but I agree that enough is enough...they need to stop the insanity
and face the facts...they will never be able to properly mourn Caylee and heal if they don't face the fact that ICA is responsible for it. I firmly believe that they have been covering for her most of her life,
and the whole family has spent years trying to cover for the fact that ICA is NOT NORMAL. Casey IS the Anthony Family secret, IMO.
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Cindy does deserve 15 years in prison.
07-02-2011, 10:24 AM #27
well all i have to say then all the other high profile people such as celebs presidents ect should do jail time right along with her .. so her geting away with perjury is nothing new .. other ppl get away with it . it should apply to EVERYONE who lies on the stand but it doesnt.. im not saying cindy should get away with lying no . but i just dont think its fair if she is made an example because that is what the public wants .. and yet others that are famous dont see the inside of a cell and not only that her lying on the stand sealed caseys fate even worse .. so mabey we should be thankful she did ? if she had nothing to hide why did cindy feel the need to do that ect.. JMO
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07-02-2011, 10:29 AM #28
I think GA knew from the get go but I am not convinced CA believed it at first. I also don't think it has been proven that she gave the wrong brush - I tend to think that sounds too much like a rumor in the media than fact.
I believe GA was always truthful with the police - maybe not the media but certainly the police.
07-02-2011, 10:31 AM #29
I think it depends on the verdict whether they touch her or not. But I think you're probably right that they'll leave well enough alone - her answers were so all over the place it might actually be hard to prove she KNOWINGLY lied...there's a lot of "perhaps" and "maybes" in her testimony that might get her off the hook.
07-02-2011, 10:37 AM #30
Richard Hornsby breaks it down why Cindy should not be prosecuted for perjury!
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