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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPickle View Post
    Yes I think she should be prosecuted but I think it is dangerous to say things like she is "well aware Casey killed the baby." I think it is a HUGE leap for a parent to go from thinking your daughter is a princess to thinking she is a murderer. Everything points to Casey being a normal chick up until that moment (and actually after it) just lazy (a trait MANY of her generation has)....though we think we do, we do not know Casey like Cindy does. I think very well that there's a big difference between the murderous Casey and the girl they knew for 23+ years.

    Cindy stated she believed the nanny story up until 6 weeks before the trial began.....there's a lot of catching up to US that she has to do.

    BUT you cannnot lie on the witness stand - she should be charged but I wouldn't "throw the book" at her....just enough a sentence to sting so she doesn't lie on the appeal.
    When Cindy and George were informed of Casey's defense that Caylee accidentally drowned in the pool and George found her and assisted in a cover-up and also sexually abused Casey; that had to be what snatched them out of denial at that point in time if they didn't think so before. Therefore, when Cindy lied last week she was well aware that Casey killed the baby. It wasn't an accident and Casey searched chloroform and neck breaking along with the other sinster searches.

    Cindy does deserve 15 years in prison.


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    well all i have to say then all the other high profile people such as celebs presidents ect should do jail time right along with her .. so her geting away with perjury is nothing new .. other ppl get away with it . it should apply to EVERYONE who lies on the stand but it doesnt.. im not saying cindy should get away with lying no . but i just dont think its fair if she is made an example because that is what the public wants .. and yet others that are famous dont see the inside of a cell and not only that her lying on the stand sealed caseys fate even worse .. so mabey we should be thankful she did ? if she had nothing to hide why did cindy feel the need to do that ect.. JMO

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    I think GA knew from the get go but I am not convinced CA believed it at first. I also don't think it has been proven that she gave the wrong brush - I tend to think that sounds too much like a rumor in the media than fact.

    I believe GA was always truthful with the police - maybe not the media but certainly the police.


    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    I believe she should be prosecuted. Perjury was just the latest in a long list of crimes committed by her to save her daughter, which tells me she knew all along who killed Caylee and that Caylee was indeed dead. I think both CA and GA should be prosecuted.

    I've been watching and listening to CA since this whole tragic murder was known. Watching CA on GVS, I knew immediately the toddler was dead and murdered by her mother. CA portrayed herself as a tireless, though wilting, steel magnolia. From the outset, she refused to answer questions about Casey, as did George early on, wanting only to say Caylee was MISSING.
    I believe they knew when they toured the back yard what had happened and went into spin mode. The ladder, the gate...

    Stonewalling the investigation under the guise that law enforcement was not doing their job, looking only at Casey, while they continued to stir the angry citizen pot with cries for Zenaida, without a care for what could have happened to the Zenaida (or her children) we saw or the countless others they practically pointed out to the press and what cities to look in.

    GA went to LE and tried work a deal for Casey. He knew.
    Cindy practically pee'd herself with glee as she turned over the wrong hairbrush to FBI. She knew.

    They concocted the JBP story. They concocted the pool ladder story with the gate being open. They committed fraud on a sympathetic public, taking donations.

    Both should be charged with perjury, misprision, tampering with evidence, witness tampering, lying to LE, fraud, whatever else you can throw at them that I am forgetting this morning.

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    I think it depends on the verdict whether they touch her or not. But I think you're probably right that they'll leave well enough alone - her answers were so all over the place it might actually be hard to prove she KNOWINGLY lied...there's a lot of "perhaps" and "maybes" in her testimony that might get her off the hook.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    I'm going to take the opposite and unpopular view here, but I don't believe they will charge her with perjury. Yesterday on HLN the point was made by several people that her memory of which day she did the supposed searches could just be wrong. I think that's the way she can wiggle out of perjury charges. So now all she is doing is raising reasonable doubt.

    Obviously we all know she is desperate and confused, as she has always been since the beginning of this case. And while Prosecutors may despise her for talking out of both sides of her mouth, I think they will believe she has suffered enough and just leave her alone after the trial is over.

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    Richard Hornsby breaks it down why Cindy should not be prosecuted for perjury!


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0pRxHamdQM"]YouTube - ‪Casey Anthony: Day 33, Are Cindy Anthony's Pants on FIre?‬‏[/ame]

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    I'm confused on a point as i have missed some testimony. It appears from yesterday there was no phone call to George regarding the pool ladder. So the pool ladder was all a lie? Was that story not told by Cindy very early in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmera View Post
    BBM~

    I watched this too, and I don't
    recall seeing that footage before.
    It was stunning to watch, knowing what we know now...
    CA goes on and on and on about ICA's fake job,
    goes into the fake scholarship that she couldn't take because of Caylee,
    (nevermind that she didn't finish high school)
    on and on and on...

    I have no doubt that this family has suffered terribly
    because of ICA throughout the years,
    but I agree that enough is enough...they need to stop the insanity
    and face the facts...they will never be able to properly mourn Caylee and heal if they don't face the fact that ICA is responsible for it. I firmly believe that they have been covering for her most of her life,
    and the whole family has spent years trying to cover for the fact that ICA is NOT NORMAL. Casey IS the Anthony Family secret, IMO.

    I watched it too and the thing that really struck me is she said she spotted the ladder up when she was going out the the pool to check the chlorine levels I was under the impression that they didn't use chlorine in their pool.
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    I would love to for LDB to have called up CA last and asked her two questions:

    Ms. Anthony, do you love your daughter? Would you do anything to save her life?

    I'm sure JB would object and HHJP would sustain but it would still hammer home why CA lied---which I'm sure the jury already realized.

    I would not want the SA to prosecute CA for perjury. I think the rule of not forcing spouses to testify against each other should apply to parents and children too. Especially when there is a possible DP verdict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPickle View Post
    I think GA knew from the get go but I am not convinced CA believed it at first. I also don't think it has been proven that she gave the wrong brush - I tend to think that sounds too much like a rumor in the media than fact.

    I believe GA was always truthful with the police - maybe not the media but certainly the police.
    I agree the hairbrush incident could have been media driven, however, the email between LG and CA was made public. What has not been made public was any proof that CA's computer was hacked, as she claimed.
    As for GA always being truthful with the police, I will refer to his LE interviews, where he talks about Cindy calling him about the pool ladder and gate, his chasing Casey, as well as his mention of JBP scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorjamay View Post
    I watched it too and the thing that really struck me is she said she spotted the ladder up when she was going out the the pool to check the chlorine levels I was under the impression that they didn't use chlorine in their pool.
    Excellant catch!
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    I tried posting a topic for this but it wouldn't let me! I totally think she should be and I hope JA and LDB go forward with it! There are legit work records proving she lied (as opposed to GA whose lying can only be proven by someone else's word). They should also prosecute her for tampering with evidence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by essies View Post
    Richard Hornsby breaks it down why Cindy should not be prosecuted for perjury!


    YouTube - ‪Casey Anthony: Day 33, Are Cindy Anthony's Pants on FIre?‬‏
    Thank you! I listened to this the other day and can most certainly agree that justice in this case for Caylee is much greater than prosecuting Cindy for perjury.

    Cindy hates to be embarrassed and to be called a liar, and more than likely for the rest of her life, she will be known as a liar. After Casey's conviction, I do believe that the punishment of loosing her grand daughter, her daughter and any reputation she may have had is enough punishment.
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    From what I've researched, the state of FL doesn't have to be in any rush to decide on perjury for CA.

    IMO - there should be no rush to do this as if there is a later reason to have to retry this case (i.e. appeals, etc.). The state will need CA to testify. Why would she in a later case if they were already prosecuting her for perjury and conversely, she is impeached before she ever takes the stand if she has a perjury conviction. Sure they could call her to the stand, and then she immediately pleads the 5th. Not a position the state prosecutors want to be in IMO.

    On the other hand, I'm sure she has been advised about her perjury situation (whether Lippman will public admit it to the world or not, he knows what was proven in court yesterday). I'm sure Cindy has also seen all the debate on the news about her perjury. She has seen first hand it's not quite that easy to lie and just go on about her business as she tried to do in this case. She was most likely mortified yesterday during all that testimony - which in itself is a sentence of punishment (public humiliation) since she is so obsessed with keeping their family secrets so hidden.

    I'm certain that if this case has to be retried for any reason, LDB and JA will waste no time reminding her that there is no statute of limitations on what she has already done in open court.

    IMO



    Perjury: Capital Offense Cases

    There is no statute of limitations for prosecuting a person for perjury in a capital offense (i.e., death penalty) case in Florida (FSA Section 775.15). The same rule applies to felony homicide cases and cases carrying a potential life sentence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lera213 View Post
    This is a high profile case, if Cindy is not charged with perjury what message does that send? I believe that she should be charged, the sentence I have no idea but she should be charged.
    With the entire nation watching, she spit all over the American justice system. With the entire nation watching, her arrogance & audacity in commiting these CRIMES demand punishment.

    I'ld be fine with 30 days in the slammer, 5 years probation, 500 hours of community service in a childrens cancer hospital (so she can watch how normal parents, grandparents, & siblings grieve) & a court ordered mental evaluation.

    Another benefit of this would be that it would keep her busy & give her husband, who I believe to be a profoundly changed man, time to get the heck out of Dodge & start a life away from her.


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    I lean (pretty far) toward prosecution, I understand the meds, desperately trying to protect you child etc... HOWEVER she didn't forget something, misspeak or anything even remotely similar! She LIED! Invented new senarios, changed her testimony. She can't even stick to her own lies! She should be punished, even if it is merely "for show".

    That all being said, tigers don't change their stripes, she surely is not going to rehabilitate herself at this season of her life. imoo

    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Let me add that I have been thinking alot about this this morning. I think it did Casey more harm than help with Cindy getting up on that stand and lying. If I were a juror, I would think "hmmmm...why lie if there is nothing to cover up".
    I agree 100%!

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantPickle View Post
    I think it is dangerous to say things like she is "well aware Casey killed the baby." I think it is a HUGE leap for a parent to go from thinking your daughter is a princess to thinking she is a murderer. Everything points to Casey being a normal chick up until that moment (and actually after it) just lazy (a trait MANY of her generation has)....though we think we do, we do not know Casey like Cindy does. I think very well that there's a big difference between the murderous Casey and the girl they knew for 23+ years.
    Snipped respectfully.... I agree, that is a huge leap, but what she did was blatant and obvious, not an accident. She had time to changer her testimony after getting her meds straightened out, she could have come forward at any time, but she jumped on the "Baez Express" and went for the "BOMBSHELL" courtroom surprise, these instances are not allowed, she knew she was perjuring herself.

    On that note, Baez should maybe try playing lawer on TV, it seems that is as deep as his understanding of the law runs...
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    Not only should she be charged with perjury, she should be charged with hindering LE when she gave over the wrong brush... WHO does that? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHCL3 View Post
    No. It will be a waste of resources. Move On.
    I'm going to respectfully disagree. The justice system needs to stand up for itself and punish someone who is willing to get up in front of the judge, jury and the whole world and lie. There must be consequences or every person taking the oath will think it means nothing and they can do and say what ever they please. Think what might have happened if LE was not able to obtain the records they did and prove to the jury that she lied...

    It reminds me of ICA and CA's relationship, they were both willing to accept each others lies without consequences, and this is what ultimately lead to this tragedy. I say, enough is enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkflamingo View Post
    I also think Kidfinders and all of the organizations that donated big $$$ and time should sue for misrepresentation... to make sure that the Anthonys are not profiting off of Caylee's death.
    When they make their million off their book/movie deal they should have to reimburse these people. I live in FL and believe me, being out there in swamp, humidity, SNAKES mosquitoes and the heat searching for a liar and all for nothing since KC now said she drowned in pool, well if I were those organisations, Id be livid.


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    I really believe she should be charged with perjury and obstruction of justice. I think Gentiva lawyers have grounds to prosecute also, as she may have caused problems for them also through her lies. If nothing is done at all, it really sends the wrong message to all citizens involved in future cases.


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    OMG...it seems like forever ago that this started. Everything that has happened yet it's still like at the beginning. Cindy, Cindy, Cindy. Still in competition with Casey.

    Been here from the very 1st post and will be here, God willing, when ICA is convicted. Cindy has lied and lied and covered up and impeded and slandered innocent people (I, personally, will never forgive her over what she did and said to Tim Miller. Vile woman!) She always got a pass because she was a "grieving grandmother" . And, with a lot of people she still gets that pass because of the grieving grandmother excuse but, also, she might lose her daughter.

    In the beginning, most people were asking, why did Cindy let this go on for so long? This is after we learned that ICA and Caylee lived with the Ants. And that ICA had no job. And, why is she not trying to find out where Caylee is? What started the protests at the house, besides ICA being released, was Cindy yelling at the media and public to "get off our a**ses and find her grandaughter"!! Really, Cindy?? The answer to that is living in your house. You are lying for her. Coddling her. Covering up for her. You and George smelled human decomp in the damn car!! This went far beyond denial with Cindy. And, it continues to this day.

    I suppose what I, personally, wanted to see from Cindy from the beginning to this day.....put Caylee first. Bless her heart....she was only 2. She loved you. Stop using her for your "grieving grandmother" excuse. For your media shows. For money. Stop lying for her killer.

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    Forgot to add.....YES!! Charge her with anything they can come up with. Without her and GA's lies, Caylee might have been found sooner. We might have found a cause of death. Caylee's little body might not have been torn apart by animals.....OMG, yes, charge her.
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    Yes, she should be charged with perjury.

    Also, Cindy should be charged for obstruction. There wasn't just one occasion. She did it multiple times throughout the investigation.

    If she isn't charged with any crimes, it leaves the door open for others to think, that they can do as she did and get away with it.


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    I don't think she will be charged. I think LE knew from very early on that Cindy realized that her daughter was the only one responsible and the stories began. We saw her screaming at the media that there was a pizza and garbage in the trunk in the heat, and other twisting of the facts. Cindy became hostile to questioning by the Investigators. By the time depositions were taken Cindy became evasive and tried to explain things away. In the Hearings she was hostile to the State.

    Once Cindy entered into those depositions she was locked into her testimony. Now she tried to stray from that saying she remembers things better now because of the medications etc., but in reality she was trying to skirt her testimony in the deposition and help her daughter.

    Cindy would have done more IMO on the stand to help her daughter if for not those depositions. She walked a fine line, was impeached, but I don't think she will be charged.

    Cindy and George were used from day 1 by the defense..... He probably was way too close to Casey's parents in giving them advice about how to save her. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Anthonys don't go after Baez with charges of misconduct after this is all over.

    And then at the 11th hour Baez having given them these phones allegedly, having kept Casey from them for 2.5 years, having used them for his purposes, i.e. the Ritz to make money for the defense etc., other times when he was in their home, he then throws George and Lee under the bus after they had cooperated with him to help Casey.

    Yup I see Baez not Cindy being the target after this trial. Not only will the Anthony family go after him I also think the sanctions will be strong on his failure to follow court orders. MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    I believe she should be prosecuted. Perjury was just the latest in a long list of crimes committed by her to save her daughter, which tells me she knew all along who killed Caylee and that Caylee was indeed dead. I think both CA and GA should be prosecuted.

    I've been watching and listening to CA since this whole tragic murder was known. Watching CA on GVS, I knew immediately the toddler was dead and murdered by her mother. CA portrayed herself as a tireless, though wilting, steel magnolia. From the outset, she refused to answer questions about Casey, as did George early on, wanting only to say Caylee was MISSING.
    I believe they knew when they toured the back yard what had happened and went into spin mode. The ladder, the gate...

    Stonewalling the investigation under the guise that law enforcement was not doing their job, looking only at Casey, while they continued to stir the angry citizen pot with cries for Zenaida, without a care for what could have happened to the Zenaida (or her children) we saw or the countless others they practically pointed out to the press and what cities to look in.

    GA went to LE and tried work a deal for Casey. He knew.
    Cindy practically pee'd herself with glee as she turned over the wrong hairbrush to FBI. She knew.

    They concocted the JBP story. They concocted the pool ladder story with the gate being open. They committed fraud on a sympathetic public, taking donations.

    Both should be charged with perjury, misprision, tampering with evidence, witness tampering, lying to LE, fraud, whatever else you can throw at them that I am forgetting this morning.
    Great post that sums it up completely!

    It wasn't just lying under oath on the witness stand, the Anthony Trio worked throughout the past three years to turn the finger pointing at Casey another direction.

    If George did tell his girlfriend that Caylee died in an "accident" that meant he knew she was dead while he and Cindy were prompting the public to join them in a search for a live child and accepting donation. That to me, is a serious crime.

    Once a verdict has been reached and Casey is being marched to a prison, officials need to get their heads together, examine the Anthony behavior and seriously consider charges. They owe it to the people of Florida who have footed the bill for this legal mess.
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    I think the DA will hold off on prosecuting Cindy Anthony during the appeals process, assuming there is one. For now, I'm rather pleased with LDB's rebuttal of Cindy's testimony that has exposed Mrs. Anthony for the blatant liar that she is.

    Cindy thought that lying about the chloroform searches would benefit Casey and perhaps prevent consideration of premeditation in Caylee's death. Alas! Cindy succeeded in sealing Casey's fate. Indeed, the iorny is rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Let me add that I have been thinking alot about this this morning. I think it did Casey more harm than help with Cindy getting up on that stand and lying. If I were a juror, I would think "hmmmm...why lie if there is nothing to cover up".
    IMO, when Cindy said she did the searches, I did not think anything of it. But when Cindy was "obviously" lying to explain away the dates/times, I thought "wow, Cindy just threw her daughter under the bus." Just like George threw Casey under the bus.
    This is my perspective and understanding of the situation based on the current information that I know......the final answer to the equation is the only question we are all asking ...the unknown pieces to the puzzle!!!

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