ABC provided $200,000.00 toCasey Anthonys defense!The MURDERED should not be USED to pay for the MURDERERS DEFENSE!
American Tragedy: The defense of Casey Anthony.
Juror No. 11 somehow made the journey from Casey is the one on trial to George may be a murderer, based on how George acted on the stand? 3 years of evidence against Casey and he throws George under the bus. Makes sense?What evidence indicated that George might be a murderer? Anyone?Weren't they to ONLY consider EVIDENCE?This NOT GUILTY verdict throws Caylee right back into the swamp she decomposed in. Thanks to this "impartial" jury.
Can you elaborate on what you see and how you interpreted it ?
I just want to say this thread about how far back the ruse goes and how it came to be and all other rabbit trails of the elaborate conspiracy or Greek tragedy or whatever was scripted has my head swimming even more than the LOST series finale. That's exactly how I feel reading this and sadly it's real life not a dumb show
The family system is steeply entrenched in dysfunction, enmeshment, and enablement;that is not something that changes on a dime. It takes a lot of work and time for family systems to get healthy. They were rocked in a hurry and massively when Caylee was missing and they found out she was dead. The parents love Casey, although the love they have is not a healthy love. The script was not complicated--it was just planned out to do whatever it takes to get her out of the death chamber. It was the same pattern of behavior they had lived for many years; it's just that this time the public was viewing it because a precious life was taken. I would guess that G and Cindy have had a very volatile marriage and that their home has been one big free for all. After taking all this heat, I suspect that George will not elect to stay. I don't have a real reason except that I believe that he must feel intense disappointment, resentment, and anger over being the sacrificial lamb. He didn't go into this thinking he would just leave. He went into it to save his daughter.
Their lawyer the day ICA didn't testify was on Greta. She asked him about sex abuse claims and he said ICA never said that JB did. She stopped him in his tracks and said that was a huge accusation to make and it would be completely unethical for JB to do that. I do however think CA and GA believe JB made up that story not ICA. I wouldn't bank on it. lol
I do however think this is going to get ugly between CA and JB. Really ugly. JB better get ready and he better not be alone with ICA from here on out.
If George did a little research, he would have known that alcohol and antihypertensives [blood pressure medication] are not usually a lethal combination. If he really wanted to kill himself, he would have done what most men (especially cops) who are serious about suicide do: he would have used a firearm.
I have no doubt that George was in a lot of psychic pain, but he wasn't serious about committing suicide. If he had been, he would have used a more predictably lethal method. His experience in LE coupled with the briefest search on the web would have provided him with a far more effective plan to kill himself.
He wasn't even close to killing himself with the method he used. He had other motives for his actions.
Quoting isn't working for me but the post about ca making it clear there was no evidence...
Made my stomach twist. I always felt her detailing the car, washing clothes and obviously handing over the wrong hair brush were not innocent mistakes made in a frantic time or just business as usual , cleaning just for cleanings sake.
Idk why but reading that post just hit me in a visceral way tonight a gut wrenching "yes it's the truth " kind of way.
Innately we want to believe she was a loving grandma who would want justice for the baby but iWhat really happened is so far beyond the truth that normal minds cannot wrap around it
So, if GA knew the remains was right out there near them....why didn't he move them to where they would never be found?
~*~ Justice for Caylee ~*~
I believe Casey had her family convinced that Caylee had been taken by bad drug people before the cops ever got there that night, and will probably convince them of some other story again when they get back together. She will never admit to letting Caylee die in an accident. Also, Lynn Turner, the woman who was in prison LWOP for killing 2 husband with antifreeze recently killed herself with anithypertensive meds.
masterminds? everyone in on it from the start? a perfectly choreographed and sophisticated web of lies hatched well in advance? wow! at the eleventh hour the defense came up with the most obvious, tried and true defense: the abuse excuse. which allowed them to claim it was accident. could a strategy be more obtuse, more lacking in cleverness, more unsophisticated? i don't think so. yet many believe it was part of an elaborate plan? again, wow.
i think baez did a great job turning this case into a blue collar vs white collar affair. his colorful language wasn't just for shock value, but specifically intended for his audience, the jury, and it worked... working stiffs vs the condescending, smug "man". i also think ja's demeanor throughout the trial played perfectly into baez's presentation, as did ldb's lecturing tone. jmo.
ps: why is it that so many seem to think the jury was able to set aside emotion given the verdict was an acquittal, as if a verdict of guilty would have been proof the jury wasn't able to set aside emotion? seems to me that emotion may have played a very big part in the jury's voting to acquit...
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Somebody Confess!!! Darn it !!!
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti
Fasinating thread! I think it should be sent on to HLN. I know at least one of the TH's has alluded to the theory.
Sure helps confirm the jury couldn't see the forest through the trees if they tried!! I thought some of JB's histrionics were dramatic and engaging, but could see through the smoke and mirrors and deemed him a con artist sort from the start. LKB has compared him to F Lee Bailey who I believe was disbarred etc. so it seems even she sees the possible future writing on the wall, lol. Jeff Ashton has remained so meek about the whole affair but I hope they are on to Baez and find a way to hang him somehow. What about that seemingly doctored photo of the kid at the sliding glass door? I hope some people come out of the woodwork with cold hard proof. It may take a while but what goes around comes right back!
There are a lot of pieces that don't quite fit for me though, and one of them is Jesse Grund stating on Dr. Drew that Casey stated Lee did the grope and feel and this was back in '04 or '05. Is he in on it to and by going along with "their" story Casey will pay him off to drop his lawsuit against her? Just playing.
I remember in one of Ashton's recent interviews he stated George was much more offended by the accusation he had something to do with Caylee's disappearance than he was bothered by the molestation claim. But this family has become so goolish you just never know.
I was never fooled by the southernly gentleman persona of CM that Jean K. peddled. What a hot headed hypocrite.
The Anthony's - grifters for sure ugh!! A train wreck that will continuously happen.
Here's my :twocents, but first let me say this:
I do NOT believe Caylee "died in an accident" and I do NOT believe that George was involved in moving Caylee's body to the woods. Also, I do NOT believe that George "molested" ICA !
I believe that ICA "murdered" Caylee and ICA "alone" put the body in the woods.
It was NOT an accident because there is no way ICA would have sat in jail for 3 years for an accident ... I believe ICA was trying to "frame" George in some ways but she did not think it out all the way through.
When ICA's car was picked up from the towyard, and GA realized what had happened, I believe he KNEW -- he KNEW something had happened to Caylee !
But George could NOT do ANYTHING WITHOUT CINDY'S APPROVAL ! Once Cindy realized "something was wrong" ... she went into "cover-up mode" for ICA, and "ORDERED" GA go right along with it.
As to ICA's "defense" ...
I believe that the "SCRIPT" was started by Casey, then added to by Jose, and of course, it had Cindy's "seal of approval".
I believe that Cindy had to convince George and Lee to go along.
EVERYTHING was planned by ICA, JB and CA, and George and Lee took on their roles. Maybe it APPEARED that GA and LA were "reluctant" .. but they "obeyed" as they were ordered to by Cindy.
From the Jail House Letters ... to the allegations of sexual molestation ... to Krystal Holloway/River Cruz -- who I believe was a "defense plant" to "trap" George just in case he would not participate with Cindy and Jose's plan ... to the crying on the stand ... to the "perjury" on the stand ... it was ALL SCRIPTED !
Also, I believe there is a REASON the entire Anthony Family participated in the cover-up, and the defense plans of LIES, to help get that "not guilty" verdict for ICA!
And I do NOT believe we will ever know what the TRUTH is ... we can only speculate ...
It is ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE that an entire family would cover-up the murder of little Caylee !
Could CA and ICA have used the sexual abuse as leverage to get GA and LA to go along with their plan? I wonder if that (the abuse) is why JB hates GA so much, but hell with this bunch that could have been in the script also.
I will not give any of them one red cent of blood money.
"Some people make me so mad I could smoke a pickle!" - Festus Haggen.
i hesitate to belive GA was in on it by the pure disgust on his face for JB...BUT why was he so darn hedgy about the duct tape. just say "yes i taped the cans, i had no clue my duct tape would be the center of a murder investigation or i would have remembered more clearly when i used it" and the pet burial. why note say "ya the vet gave us the pets back wrapped like that so when pets died at home we wrapped them like the vet did but my grandaughter was not a pet sir" "no i didnt sleep with river, i had an emotional affair to get away from the stress of the situation i was in and i said it COULD have been an accident that snowballed because i didnt want to belive caylee was murdered in cold blood" ect ect. his evasive answers help with the aquittal so there is a question. was he evasive on purpose or is he just a nitwit for not seeing how the lack of memory made him look like he was hiding something? is he so used to lying that he cant even testify normally. ugh
i think casey killed caylee. i think GA and CA had no clue. after the 911 call and the info from LE that there was no zanny CA realized she screwed up by calling LE cuz now she no longer had control of the situatuon. GA tried to help LE at 1st thinking its the right thing to do. CA felt guilt over having casey arrested and thus began the coverup mode. GA had to go along for the ride since without CA he had no place to live no money, no job. covering up their suspicions and going along with the zanny story they no longer had to work, made $, went on tv and had a cause. they figured it wasnt too bad-hey this is profitable. i truly think GA and CA hae no clue how Caylee died but it knew she was dead and Casey had something to do with it. GA was probably fine with Casey being in jail secretly. once the DP was put on the table the family freaked out and felt guilty. CA for the 911 call and GA for the grand jury testimony and the tongue lashing from CA. at that point they decided to do anything it took to save casey from the DP. they went along with whatever the DT came up with for trial out of guilt JB ellicited. GA mainly to appease CA. i think GA never realized casey would be aquitted on all charges and merely was appeasing CA enough to spare Casey the DP and hoped for manslaughter or something. CA being wiley knew to play along and being the greedy manipulative beotch she is played her testimony to both sides to ensure to cover her bases. one to "save" casey, the other to ellicit sympathy from the nation as grieving grandma who may lose her daughter. hence the "u never know what CA will say today" testimony. to this day they dont know how Caylee died and that is partly their fault for covering up for Casey. without all false info from family and cleaning the car and covering up her crime they may have had answers.
the drowning story i believe came within the last year and the anthonys may have been taken by surprise on that part. i think that was JB's ace in the sleeve saved for OS. the molestation was learned prior and CA made sure everyone knew to go ahead and deny it but to look hedgy about it and anything else the DT thru at them. they feared caseys wrath if the didnt play along to some degree. they had no way of knowing if the DT strategy would work but they were willing to try..if only to say they tried to save casey from death. honestly deep down i think they hoped/assumed she would have been convicted. then the money would be all their since casey couldnt profit AND they would have had a huge story as grieving grandparetns with a convicted daughter. now they are just purjurors and molesters who are complicit in a murderer walking. NOT what they had planned. they wanted a conviction but their dysfunction would not allow them to get it. they kept slipping into save casey at all costs mode and its going to bite them on their hineys.
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I am glad to see this thread, because I have been thinking a lot of the same things about the whole family, Lee IMO was so FAKE in his testimony about the baby shower crying etc. I heard Ashton tonight on one of the shows on HLN say that Lee did NOT act that way during his depo so when he started crying during the trial it was like a 360...For George to seem to be throwing ICA under the bus, Cindy lying about computer searches and they all are sitting together? CA and LA impeached each other about the pyschic and the PI's searching yet were seen afterwards in the elevator chatting away....and then for her sentencing CA and GA are overheard discussing how "beautiful" ICA looked etc.....one great big "HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM" IMO the whole family is whacko and that poor little angel will NEVER get the justice she deserves!!! I keep thinking that the next REALITY SHOW we will see will be LIES WITH THE ANTHONY'S....May you RIP little Caylee...
You, know, and this is my opinion only---a lot of THs and a lot of posters and a lot of comment writers are all asking the same question: How could this have happened....and a lot of it is just easy to eat the prosecution's case wasn't strong enough. Well, we here all know (and anyone else who watched the trial) --that it all boils down to one thing: The smarmy, backhanded LIES and sleazy tactics employed by the defense through out the 44 days of trial ACTUALLY worked on this jury. Why aren't there MSM reports on this? Why can't anyone admit what we all saw happen, actually happened???