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    I think everyone is going back and forth on McD. I don't think it's a stretch to think no matter whether he did it or not, the police seem to be leaning heavily in his direction. Why else would the forensics be so important unless they think evidence collected from his apartment is crucial?

    I think these petty theft charges are to keep him under control until the lab results come back.

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    I think everyone is going back and forth on McD. I don't think it's a stretch to think no matter whether he did it or not, the police seem to be leaning heavily in his direction. Why else would the forensics be so important unless they think evidence collected from his apartment is crucial?

    I think these petty theft charges are to keep him under control until the lab results come back.
    I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to agree. I didn't want it to be him---maybe just because I didn't want it to someone who seemed stereotyped by his looks and demeanor. I really had hoped he was just a bumbling "weird" guy who was socially awkward.

    There are a lot of rumors going around town right now, and you can hardly go anywhere without hearing people whispering about it. If I were guessing, I'd say the judge would again deny bail on Thursday. I don't really want to feed the rumor mill, but I don't think it looks good for this guy.

    No matter what the outcome, justice must be done, and I hope this sad chapter for the Giddings family and the city of Macon is closed soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDUBBY View Post
    I think everyone is going back and forth on McD. I don't think it's a stretch to think no matter whether he did it or not, the police seem to be leaning heavily in his direction. Why else would the forensics be so important unless they think evidence collected from his apartment is crucial?

    I think these petty theft charges are to keep him under control until the lab results come back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mia
    Anyway, I was just listening to the SM interview again, specifically the part where the reporter mentions that a body was found and SM gets all flustered and says he needs to sit down. Does anyone else find it surprising that he doesn't ask any questions - for example, if he were innocent, you'd think upon hearing a body had been found he'd ask, "WHERE?!" "Is it her?" "When?" etc. I know I would - particularly I'd want to know where, but I know I'd have a ton of other questions for the messenger of the news. That his response was only that he needed to sit down is suspicious to me. I have to admit at first I thought he did it, then I changed my mind and decided he might be being held only to keep the public calm, like some here have speculated, but now I'm back on the guilty side of the fence again, and I think that's where I'll stay. Too many coincidences, suspicions - little things on their own but all together they point to SM's guilt, IMO.
    I think these two nailed it. And although I have gone back and forth, and have even felt guilty of being overly judgemental of McD, I am once again leaning more towards him being guilty. And thanks Mia for pointing that out about the interview!!! I think that is definitely worth noting.

    I heard today that certain LE are confident about things, specifically about having McD already in custody. Very word of mouth, so take it FWIW.

    Lab results please?

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    Sometimes even though it waddles and quacks, we don't want to call it a duck.

    I've said more than once I was not completely convinced McD is the one. But after all I've heard and read at this point, I'm about 90% there. I don't believe there is some conspiracy in which LE has McD locked up to keep the public satiated. He's there because they know things we don't.
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    I spoke with someone I work with today, who drives down Georgia Avenue every day. She said that she drove past the apartments earlier today and saw several squad cars with their lights on, and a plumber's van. Hmmmm... maybe taking out more plumbing?

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    Thanks for the local update McMunn!! Lab found a trace but requested additional sample?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMunn View Post
    I spoke with someone I work with today, who drives down Georgia Avenue every day. She said that she drove past the apartments earlier today and saw several squad cars with their lights on, and a plumber's van. Hmmmm... maybe taking out more plumbing?
    That's curious...Thanks for sharing McMunn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Thanks for the local update McMunn!! Lab found a trace but requested additional sample?

    Where's Lauren DiSpirito when you need her?
    Maybe they were there to put some of the plumbing back in, in the other apartments that they checked. She was also telling me about someone she knows who lives kitty korner toward the back of the apartments, and how they were watching as they were pulling the tub out of SM's apartment last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMunn;6896800[B
    ]Maybe they were there to put some of the plumbing back in, in the other apartments that they checked.[/B] She was also telling me about someone she knows who lives kitty korner toward the back of the apartments, and how they were watching as they were pulling the tub out of SM's apartment last week.
    Ha! That's what I was thinking.
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    Macon police continue to search the apartment complex, a nearby cemetery, the river area and a public park where Giddings often jogged for "any kind of evidence germane to this case," Macon police spokeswoman Jami Gaudet said Tuesday, July 12.

    Gaudet said that police continue to interview Giddings' friends and acquaintances.

    "What we're trying to do is exclude we're trying to say that so and so who knew her could not have done this horrific act," Gaudet said, adding that the interview process has been long because Giddings new many people.

    "I can't say that there's no more persons of interest, I can just tell you that she was a girl that was very involved," Gaudet said. "She was very involved at her law school, at her church, in her community, and she cast a wide net. She had many friends and many contacts."

    Gaudet said that Stephen Mark McDaniel, 25, who police named as a person of interest in their investigation on July 1, has not been excluded from the investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMunn View Post
    Maybe they were there to put some of the plumbing back in, in the other apartments that they checked. She was also telling me about someone she knows who lives kitty korner toward the back of the apartments, and how they were watching as they were pulling the tub out of SM's apartment last week.
    I was a little surprised at how soon LE allowed Lauren's apartment to be cleared out. I somehow thought they would keep it intact for a while longer, just in case they needed to verify something or go back and look for evidence.
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    Possible they were reinstalling new plumbing for the parts tht were taken out and sent for testing..

    But would that really require LE in squad cars to be present for plumbers just installing replaced pipes and fittings. IMO I wouldn't think so. But as always jmo, tho!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothOperator View Post
    Possible they were reinstalling new plumbing for the parts tht were taken out and sent for testing..

    But would that really require LE in squad cars to be present for plumbers just installing replaced pipes and fittings. IMO I wouldn't think so. But as always jmo, tho!!
    I thought about that Smooth. We don't know what they were doing, but IF they were reinstalling the plumbing, the extra security might've been warranted to keep the media and curious onlookers at bay.
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    No News From Macon Police on Giddings Case

    Once they received those results, she said, police may not be able to announce any immediate action in the case.

    Then around 7 p.m., she said by email that police did not plan any update on the case.

    Police have said they have no solid suspects and were awaiting those test results before deciding how to proceed.

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    It's not clear whether they received the results or not. Sounds like they don't want the media and the public getting in their way while waiting for an update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    BBM- Really, no solid suspects?! Ughhh!!!
    I wonder if their "not planning to give any updates" and their quote that they have no suspects means the McD forensics were a dead end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midstateMind View Post
    I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to agree. I didn't want it to be him---maybe just because I didn't want it to someone who seemed stereotyped by his looks and demeanor. I really had hoped he was just a bumbling "weird" guy who was socially awkward.

    There are a lot of rumors going around town right now, and you can hardly go anywhere without hearing people whispering about it. If I were guessing, I'd say the judge would again deny bail on Thursday. I don't really want to feed the rumor mill, but I don't think it looks good for this guy.

    No matter what the outcome, justice must be done, and I hope this sad chapter for the Giddings family and the city of Macon is closed soon.
    Among the folks who are talking, do any of them know him personally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    I thought about that Smooth. We don't know what they were doing, but IF they were reinstalling the plumbing, the extra security might've been warranted to keep the media and curious onlookers at bay.


    Yeah, but I wonder why they would have the lights on if that's all that was going on.

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    A friend of mine drove by yesterday afternoon. A squad car was just sitting in the apartment lot. I wonder if they are using their surveillance to film anyone who is in the area.

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    That, too makes sense, bessie.. Point taken(speaking of reasons why LE presence when plumbing parts were possibly being replaced).. Of course either way we look at it(replacing or removing more to test)it's all speculation til we're able to have something confirmed..

    I am getting impatient[ sorry just being honest ] about test results still not being in yet.. I know as of last Friday it was being heavily reported that LE really seemed to believe they would receive them in Friday's mail, and that by the end of that day spoken as if it were just a given that they for certain would receive them on Monday(11th).. So I'm really somewhat puzzled as to their not yet having received those much anticipated 74 articles of evidence's results that they may yield..

    Tho I know some ^above^ even stated that possibly they had indeed received the results but for whatever reason were choosing at this time to keep that fact hidden from the media/public.. That, too is worrisome.. Not that I want the results to nail mcD for Lauren's murder.. Then again, if that's what the results do infact indicate then yes, I do want him nailed and charged so Lauren's loved one's can atleast begin not only the beginning of closure of Lauren's death, but more importantly to begin that long, hard road of grieving their daughter/sister's horrendous death..

    I would guess that maybe McD's hearing scheduled for this Thursday(14th) for bond to be set on his 2 burglary charges may possibly give us atleast some sort of indication about "something".. Then again maybe not.. Who knows..??

    I do know that it is frustrating for there seeming to be so very many open, supposedly active and ongoing cases, that just come to an almost stand still, left in limbo, with family's literally crippled within that limbo, not to mention the unbearable day to living and just not knowing(in some cases not even knowing if their loved one is alive or dead.. Kyron Horman, Hailey Dunn, Holly Bobo, Gail Palmgren, Lauren Spierer.. Just to name a VERY VERY few)..

    Sometimes I just cannot even begin to comprehend the totality of it all and just what type evil that we walk amongst in our everyday lives..

    Prayers for the Giddings Family tonight that soon they be granted solace of closure, if even just knowing the who and not the why...

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    Just signed up & enjoyed reading the discussion. I'm a lawyer in Macon with an office not far from the law school. Regarding the bond hearing: certain crimes must be bonded by a Superior Court Judge, this is done only on Thursdays. A Motion must be filed by the defendant or his lawyer to get a court date. The hearing was not last Thursday since it sounded like his lawyer got on the case too late to file by the deadline. Unless more charges are added by Thursday, I would expect a bond to be set.
    As to safety in downtown Macon: there is a high degree of property crime & lots of car break-ins. There was a recent stat on that in the Macon paper I'll try & find. My office has suffered 1 very destructive burglary, a car break-in in daylight, all the copper pipe being stolen 2-3 times, & the front door has been busted out several times, I guess just for fun. However, I run/bike all over downtown with no problems. I see women running & walking dogs often & did today.
    As to McD, burglary is considered a rather serious offense by the d.a. & court here. It is a 10 year felony, meaning that is the max. Everyone gets jail time. Some counties in Ga. give you prison time for the 1st offense. The idea is that burglaries often escalate to violence/death. Check out this for an example:
    http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=139006.
    This was on Walnut Street, near the law school.
    I see a major problem with burglarizing your classmates in law school. Law school is extremely expensive. Law students I know are very aware of being very careful in all activities to avoid anything close to a crime or you are done & lots of money wasted. Since reports are that McD confessed, I see an anti-social type not thinking clearly. Also one thing law school would instill is "never confess". A disconnect in his thinking going on there.
    Sorry this got a little long. I did also drive by the scene around 8pm tonite. More vehicles/cops/media than I have seen before were out.


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    Hopefully the evidence results will be back soon (tomorrow, I hope!!) I'm one of those that just doesn't want to believe that McD is the perp. Like others have said, he just looks like a typical college student to me. But if the evidence points to him, then justice must be served.

    But if they get the evidence back & it doesn't point to him, then what? I feel really bad for Lauren's family, and I also feel really bad for the other people living around there. Can you imagine if your son or daughter was going to that school (or just living in the area) & this case becomes cold? Most of us have very little control over grown children, but if I couldn't get my child to withdraw from school, I think I'd have to buy a gun & go live there myself. I couldn't stand it.

    Why would the police not have a press conference planned? Seems they would want to say something, anything, they're working on it, they have leads ..... anything so people wouldn't be afraid that every stranger they meet could be a murderer, or even people they know possibly. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Mustard View Post
    Yeah, but I wonder why they would have the lights on if that's all that was going on.
    True. And after hearing the latest news, I'm more inclined to believe they were going back for more evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van the Man View Post
    Just signed up & enjoyed reading the discussion. I'm a lawyer in Macon with an office not far from the law school. Regarding the bond hearing: certain crimes must be bonded by a Superior Court Judge, this is done only on Thursdays. A Motion must be filed by the defendant or his lawyer to get a court date. The hearing was not last Thursday since it sounded like his lawyer got on the case too late to file by the deadline. Unless more charges are added by Thursday, I would expect a bond to be set.
    As to safety in downtown Macon: there is a high degree of property crime & lots of car break-ins. There was a recent stat on that in the Macon paper I'll try & find. My office has suffered 1 very destructive burglary, a car break-in in daylight, all the copper pipe being stolen 2-3 times, & the front door has been busted out several times, I guess just for fun. However, I run/bike all over downtown with no problems. I see women running & walking dogs often & did today.
    As to McD, burglary is considered a rather serious offense by the d.a. & court here. It is a 10 year felony, meaning that is the max. Everyone gets jail time. Some counties in Ga. give you prison time for the 1st offense. The idea is that burglaries often escalate to violence/death. Check out this for an example:
    http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=139006.
    This was on Walnut Street, near the law school.
    I see a major problem with burglarizing your classmates in law school. Law school is extremely expensive. Law students I know are very aware of being very careful in all activities to avoid anything close to a crime or you are done & lots of money wasted. Since reports are that McD confessed, I see an anti-social type not thinking clearly. Also one thing law school would instill is "never confess". A disconnect in his thinking going on there.
    Sorry this got a little long. I did also drive by the scene around 8pm tonite. More vehicles/cops/media than I have seen before were out.
    Thanks Van! It's nice to get a lawyer's perspective I'm curious...do they actually tell law students to never confess if they're put in a situation to be questioned by police? Hope that all the activity around the apartment means we'll be hearing something soon.

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