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    Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #1


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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...124867402.html

    The brother told officers that he found Ms. Nalepa with a rope around her neck and hanging from a balcony off the main house, Capt. Curran said, adding that Adam Shacknai cut down Ms. Nalepa before police arrived on the scene. Capt. Curran said police found Ms. Nalepa nude, with her feet and hands bound behind her.

    "We have not determined if this is criminal or if this is a death investigation," Capt. Curran said. "Whether it is a homicide or a suicide, it is one of the most bizarre and unusual cases we have ever seen."
    Hmmm.... So he's 54, extremely wealthy & established... She was 32......
    On Monday, local police had responded to an emergency call to the same house after Mr. Shacknai's 6-year-old son fell down stairs. The boy, whose mother is Mr. Shacknai's second wife, suffered severe injuries and remains hospitalized.

    Lea Corbin, a spokeswoman with the Coronado Police Department, said the boy's fall has been deemed a "tragic accident," and there is no ongoing investigation. Ms. Nalepa and a young girl, described as 13 or 14 years old, were the only people home at the time, Ms. Corbin said.

    Capt. Curran said the two incidents appear to be separate, and investigators haven't found any connection between the cases.
    Interesting.

    In a statement after the death was reported on Wednesday, a Medicis spokeswoman expressed sadness at the "tragic incident at a California property owned by Jonah Shacknai."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinsamd View Post
    [url]sting.

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    In a statement after the death was reported on Wednesday, a Medicis spokeswoman expressed sadness at the "tragic incident at a California property owned by Jonah Shacknai."
    An early post, I thought it would good to look back .... it does seem cold or strange they didn't say his Summer house. Ugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    An early post, I thought it would good to look back .... it does seem cold or strange they didn't say his Summer house. Ugh
    why do you think so? not being snarky just curious, i can't see how it would be cold or strange really

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    Quote Originally Posted by askfornina View Post
    why do you think so? not being snarky just curious, i can't see how it would be cold or strange really
    Well, I think that was after Rebecca was found. I think it's strange he has never publicly said anything about her death even if through a PR agency and strange they are talking about the house they spent a lot of time in, his kids spent a lot of time in, as just a property he owned. This is a statement made by his company, not the press.

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    Odd on HLN the brother hasn't even been mentioned....hmmmmmmmmm Talk about bias. imo


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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    Well, I think that was after Rebecca was found. I think it's strange he has never publicly said anything about her death even if through a PR agency and strange they are talking about the house they spent a lot of time in, his kids spent a lot of time in, as just a property he owned. This is a statement made by his company, not the press.
    I can't personally say I think it strange at all. If Max was under Rebecca's watch, and his son died during that watch, I understand that he might not be anxious to sing her praises at this point, or even acknowledge her.

    I have to keep in mind that he has an ex-wife to watch out for. If he so much as mentions Rebecca, she might just go postal (I know I would). Especially knowing Rebecca was in charge (or was supposed to be) when Max died. JS might not be making a statement for the sake of his ex wife, the mother of Maxie.

    Just my opinion!

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    The whereabouts of Jonah Shacknai over the past few days seems equally mysterious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winward1 View Post
    The whereabouts of Jonah Shacknai over the past few days seems equally mysterious.
    I thought I read he was at the hospital with his gravely injured child? His ex-wife (child's mother) could easily vouch for him.

    I find it so typical he's a (very wealthy) middle-aged man, 2x divorced with kids from 2 other marriages, and he's involved with a 32 year old party woman. Grow up.

    I spent most of my life in the San Diego area and his mansion is on my list to buy when I win the lottery. Love, Love, Love the Ocean Blvd in Coronado.

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    It will be interesting to see the toxicology report to see if she was heavily intoxicated. When this first broke, I read somewhere a neighbor said there was a loud party (Tuesday night?) which was odd because the child had been injured (severely) on Monday and was in the hospital (weird in that why would you have a party after such a tragic accident).

    Re: suicide vs homicide. I don't get the feet binding if it was suicide. MAYBE (big maybe) I get the hands (thought is so you wouldn't be able to change your mind after you jump - like try to get the noose off your neck? That's the only thing I can think of). Also, since the body was naked, there are not too many women I know who are so confident in their bodies they would even think about exposing their naked body to the world like that - dead or alive.

    But if it was murder, wouldn't someone have heard her screaming and fighting for her life? Those houses are pretty close together (even though they are large). Coronado is very quiet at night - I would think someone would have heard a woman being bound and then knowing she was going to be hanged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownRice View Post
    It will be interesting to see the toxicology report to see if she was heavily intoxicated. When this first broke, I read somewhere a neighbor said there was a loud party (Tuesday night?) which was odd because the child had been injured (severely) on Monday and was in the hospital (weird in that why would you have a party after such a tragic accident).

    Re: suicide vs homicide. I don't get the feet binding if it was suicide. MAYBE (big maybe) I get the hands (thought is so you wouldn't be able to change your mind after you jump - like try to get the noose off your neck? That's the only thing I can think of). Also, since the body was naked, there are not too many women I know who are so confident in their bodies they would even think about exposing their naked body to the world like that - dead or alive.

    But if it was murder, wouldn't someone have heard her screaming and fighting for her life? Those houses are pretty close together (even though they are large). Coronado is very quiet at night - I would think someone would have heard a woman being bound and then knowing she was going to be hanged.
    BBM: I agree 100%.

    According to Rebecca's gym friend,

    1. he had just spoken to Zahau on Saturday, a few days before she was found dead.

    2. I asked her, 'How is your day going?'…you know, 'Anything going on in the weekend?' said Holman. "She had mentioned they were getting ready for some party or something like that [and]… seemed happy and upbeat about it."

    Source: http://www.10news.com/news/28579183/detail.html

    3. Max has a horrible accident on Monday.

    4. Zahau's sister Mary Zahau-Loehner, 33, told ABC News she spoke with her sister around midnight Tuesday, and everything seemed to be OK.

    "She was normal, fine, just getting ready to go to bed," said Zahau-Loehner, who lives in Saint Joseph, Mo.

    Source: http://www.mizozo.com/weird/07/2011/...ith-a-....html

    Note: Max was just in a horrible accident, how is she FINE?

    IMHO, a party was planned for Tuesday, but cancelled after the accident. If there was a party, would Rebecca be getting ready for bed at midnight? Personally, I don't think so. Just like I don't agree with the auto-asphyxiation theory that's bouncing around.

    In the meantime, investigators are being tight lipped.

    Interesting theory here: It's very rare for a woman to commit suicide naked, as modesty is a big factor. No note, no mental issues, no previous attempts, fine the night before, etc.

    http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/c...edirected=true

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownRice View Post
    It will be interesting to see the toxicology report to see if she was heavily intoxicated. When this first broke, I read somewhere a neighbor said there was a loud party (Tuesday night?) which was odd because the child had been injured (severely) on Monday and was in the hospital (weird in that why would you have a party after such a tragic accident).

    Re: suicide vs homicide. I don't get the feet binding if it was suicide. MAYBE (big maybe) I get the hands (thought is so you wouldn't be able to change your mind after you jump - like try to get the noose off your neck? That's the only thing I can think of). Also, since the body was naked, there are not too many women I know who are so confident in their bodies they would even think about exposing their naked body to the world like that - dead or alive.

    But if it was murder, wouldn't someone have heard her screaming and fighting for her life? Those houses are pretty close together (even though they are large). Coronado is very quiet at night - I would think someone would have heard a woman being bound and then knowing she was going to be hanged.
    Sounds like the noise coming from the house may have been a cover for whatever activity was going on. A party under those circumstances makes no sense, I agree.

    The Washington Post reported this evening that the girl at the home during the son's accident was no relation...? On HLN this evening she is identified as his sister.

    Very sad all the way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfie View Post
    The Washington Post reported this evening that the girl at the home during the son's accident was no relation...? On HLN this evening she is identified as his sister.
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    "When Max fell down the stairs, Zahau was at home with a 13-year-old girl whom authorities won’t name but was not related to the Shacknais."
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...ROI_story.html

    Thanks for the info. It's a detail I mentioned in an earlier post, and one I've been very curious about. No other item in this story has been so inconsistent and conflicting, both between LE agencies and media reports.

    It causes enough attention to be questionable. Especially, when the girl posted his death in Facebook, two days before his parents made a public announcement. She compromised the family's privacy.

    I posted the quote and link, if anyone is interested.

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    Why would a suicide by hanging victim bind their hands, if they could?

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