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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    Some of the same thoughts, but mostly I wondered if Jonah's daughter was watching after Max at the time and perhaps Rebecca was not even in the room? Or visa versa?

    I'm not saying either one did anything wrong, just that others appear to want to keep this vague for some reason. All they had to do in the first place was present something that made sense and just outright say whatever Rebecca told them. What the heck initially led LE to conclude it was just an unfortunate accident.

    I think it's incredibly weird that there are two witnesses and one is gone, the other is being kept secretive as far as we can tell. Jonah's daughter looks to be a fairly mature 13/14 year old from pics. Maybe this isn't true but I feel kind of bad for her if she was wisked away, tried to post on facebook and it was silenced, and so on.
    I read there are TWO daughters of Jonah and the 1st wife; a 13 yr old AND a 14 yr old. I THINK read it on this thread, I'll see if I can find it, or anyone have a link handy? SO, which one wrote the FB message and which one might have been at the house?


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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    scorekeeper ... I tend to think the same (bolded). I think he was just kept on life support till they could deal with the fact he wasn't coming back.

    Although I still think his cause of death is a mystery... I perused some articles to see for any causes, seems a lot of them

    Why Might a Child or a Teen Experience a Cardiac Arrest ?
    http://learnedfromdaniel.blogspot.co...xperience.html

    This cause is not mentioned in the above article though ...
    ADHD Drugs May Cause Sudden Cardiac Arrest
    BBM.

    Has it been stated that Max suffered from ADHD? I haven't seen that anywhere.

    For what it's worth, DS is a psychologist with a particular research interest in ADHD.

    http://www.melmedcenter.com/drshacknai

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorekeeper View Post
    http://www.wsbt.com/news/la-me-mansi...,6755839.story - my comments bolded

    Shacknai's brother, Adam, a guest at the home, told investigators that he found Nalepa and cut her down in hopes that she was still alive. The two were the only ones in the house at the time

    Change in story; thought initial it was reported RN was in distress

    After he fell, Max Shacknai was rushed to Rady Children's Hospital in San Diego, where his father and mother — Jonah Shacknai's ex-wife, Dina, who also lives in Coronado — kept a vigil.

    From this, it leads you to believe they never left the hospital

    Investigators declined to say where Jonah Shacknai, 54, was when Nalepa's body was found.

    Why even mention this....makes my hinky meter move; if they decline, does that mean he was not at the hospital holding the vigil?

    I suspect that "holding a vigil" really means one or the other of them were there at all times, not that they both were there at all times. Further, I'm really thinking they either haven't or can't verify Jonah was there all the time or where he was - either that or they know he was somewhere else or could be somewhere else at the time. Nothing in what has been reported makes me think they were both there all that time. But yeah, it makes it sound hinky since they aren't really saying anything concrete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    I read there are TWO daughters of Jonah and the 1st wife; a 13 yr old AND a 14 yr old. I THINK read it on this thread, I'll see if I can find it, or anyone have a link handy? SO, which one wrote the FB message and which one might have been at the house?
    It was G I think. I thought there were two daughters also, but he has a teenage son... so I think it's probably two teenagers, one son, one daughter? I thought his daughter was 14 though and the oldest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFromLB View Post
    BBM.

    Has it been stated that Max suffered from ADHD? I haven't seen that anywhere.

    For what it's worth, DS is a psychologist with a particular research interest in ADHD.

    http://www.melmedcenter.com/drshacknai

    No, I don't think so but I also made that connection

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    Neighbors say Shacknai, who is twice divorced, was staying at the mansion with his girlfriend and his children.

    http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/q...edirected=true

    Quick update to the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade View Post
    Yes, but wouldn’t a head injury be an obvious cause of death?

    Would there still be an autopsy if assessments showed brain injury and the victim was know to have fallen on his head?



    all imo
    Yes. Accidental deaths, including this one, in children are almost always autopsied. When there is no known cause of accident, and in this case we just don't know why Max fell, it is almost a given that there will be an autopsy...and I can't see the family foregoing it if given the chance.

    I had a patient who died. She passed from cancer. Her family, despite being under a Drs care, and knowing what disease she had, demanded an autopsy. My patient had the autopsy. Next of kin, or parents in the cases of minor children, would have a great deal of weight in this decision for an autopsy.

    Also, when a brain-dead patient is prepared for donation of organs, lots and lots (and then more) tests are done to determine if there is anything - the least little thing - that would affect the organ transplant, such as medications, drugs, et cetera. Often, the donation place will ask that a 24 hour "clearance" be done before removing the organs...meaning, nothing but life sustaining drugs are given so that the organs are clean.

    I have heard that tox reports are being rushed...meaning maybe two weeks instead of 6. I do believe that LE has far more than they're releasing...far more.

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    He has two children from a previous marriage to a woman named Kimberly James.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...atest+Articles)
    His first wife, Kimberly, filed for divorce in December 1998, and the feuding lasted until they finally settled in February 2001. The fight revolved around money and the custody of their two children, now ages 14 and 13.
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    San Diego station Channel 8 was among media that quoted a message on the social-media website Facebook that was reportedly posted by G. Shacknai, the 14-year-old daughter of Jonah Shacknai.

    "RIP Maxie. We'll miss your sweet smile and kind heart more than you'll ever know. I'll love you forever," the posting said, according to the station.
    So, it appears the 13 yr old MAY have been at the home and the 14 yr old MAY have posted the message.

    "I live here, I'm from here, A lady was killed here," said Marco Perez, manager of Emerald City Surf Shop. "In a town like this, I don't think (authorities) have a plan for dealing with . . . a murder."
    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...#ixzz1SfipcH91


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    The long orange electrical cord could be in the home to use with the vacuum sweeper. With such large rooms it would be easier to use extension cords than to plug and unplug the shorter sweeper cord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    Some of the same thoughts, but mostly I wondered if Jonah's daughter was watching after Max at the time and perhaps Rebecca was not even in the room? Or visa versa?

    I'm not saying either one did anything wrong, just that others appear to want to keep this vague for some reason. All they had to do in the first place was present something that made sense and just outright say whatever Rebecca told them. What the heck initially led LE to conclude it was just an unfortunate accident.

    I think it's incredibly weird that there are two witnesses and one is gone, the other is being kept secretive as far as we can tell. Jonah's daughter looks to be a fairly mature 13/14 year old from pics. Maybe this isn't true but I feel kind of bad for her if she was wisked away, tried to post on facebook and it was silenced, and so on.
    BBM May I ask what you mean by silenced? If I understand correctly, the half sister wrote "RIP Maxie," etc., on FB on Friday. Was there some other attempt at posting something that I'm missing?


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    Dina also submitted a two-page letter, describing Jonah as temperamental. She said the incident began over a disagreement with their child’s soiled bedding and that Jonah cursed at her in front of their child.
    He “physically intimidated” her, she wrote, by “coming very close to (her), ‘nose to nose,’” and continuing to insult and threaten" her with name-calling in a “menacing tone.” She added that her attempts to keep an arm’s distance from Jonah during the incident resulted in her hand moving from his chest to his throat.
    “Although Jonah feels entitled to name call, push etc, when I attempt to set boundaries via my personal space, he then assumes the role of victim,” Dina wrote.
    Source: Details Shed on Shacknai's Second Divorce | NBC San Diego
    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/125848813.html


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    Dr Drew is also covering tonight.
    I'm glad they are moving on from Casey A.

    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyMama View Post
    BBM May I ask what you mean by silenced? If I understand correctly, the half sister wrote "RIP Maxie," etc., on FB on Friday. Was there some other attempt at posting something that I'm missing?
    There are 2 sisters, I posted the links to show. The 13 yr old is rumored to have been at the home and the 14 yr old is G., who posted the FB message that was removed, links upthread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrington View Post
    Dr Drew is also covering tonight.
    I'm glad they are moving on from Casey A.

    IMO
    I could not be happier! FICA can go on with her pathetic life...we have better things to do, imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    There are 2 sisters, I posted the links to show. The 13 yr old is rumored to have been at the home and the 14 yr old is G., who posted the FB message that was removed, links upthread.
    earlier in this thread somewhere, someone posted an obituary of JS mom, and it states that there is a boy and a girl. it is also stated that there was a boy and a girl elsewhere iirc

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