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    Possible Victims - Massachusetts

    I live in Massachusetts and started following these these two cases when they were still disappearances, and I've always thought they really might be connected to the "river killer" cases. There's no real rational explanation for how these two young men ended up where they did - one in the Charles River, the other in the Boston Harbor. The man who was discovered in the Boston Harbor years later was staying at a hotel with his girlfriend and went outside for a smoke in the early morning hours after a late night out in the city.

    Gene Losik

    http://www.wickedlocal.com/northando...#axzz1SDHlGttj

    and here were some threads on his disappearance and recovery:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Losik

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Losik

    Also, William Hurley, who disappeared after a Bruins game in Boston just 4 months before Gene Losik, and was waiting for a ride home from his girlfriend:

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...y_of_quin.html

    Both men were in the middle of doing normal mundane things - going outside for a smoke, waiting for a ride home from a hockey game - when they disappeared. They'd each had alcohol that night but neither appeared impaired to people that were with them. IMO there is no rational explanation for how they ended up in the water - no way they could have accidentally fallen in - Hurley disappeared in October, when the nights in Boston start getting cold, and Losik in February, when it would have been undoubtedly frigid at that hour.



    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Losik
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    posting this missing college student (Franco Garcia) here jik

    http://www.wickedlocal.com/allston/b...#axzz1ngY1KiSB

    Garcia, 21, was last seen at about 12:15 a.m. Wednesday. Investigators said Garcia was out with friends drinking inside Mary Ann's Bar on Beacon Street in Brighton.
    Garcia’s family said since then, he has not attended classes or shown up for work at CVS in Waltham. His car remains parked on campus.
    A search of the Chestnut Hill Reservoir by a state police helicopter did not turn up any results on Sunday. Investigators said the last ping on Garcia's cellphone came from the area.
    “The last activity on the cellphone was a ping right in this location at about 1:17 a.m. on the 22nd,” said Newton Police Lt. Bruce Apotheker. “We’ve checked his ATM card, any sort of activity like that and there’s nothing.


    Read more: Scan of reservoir for missing Boston College student Franco Garcia finds nothing - Allston-Brighton, MA - Allston/Brighton TAB http://www.wickedlocal.com/allston/b...#ixzz1ngYZM5yr
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    Franco's body was found in reservoir.

    "Seven weeks of searching and hoping for their son's safe return dissolved into grief Wednesday for the parents of a Boston College student who said police pulled his remains from the water of a reservoir near the campus."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11...#ixzz1rnTMGN1u
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    I have followed the deaths of male college students/river deaths for a long time but Franco's death has hit hard. My son attends MIT in Cambridge (also a clarinet player) and his residence is by the river so I constantly worry about him.

    Deep condolences go out to Franco's family and friends.. May he rest in peace..

    The first link has news video of the discovery of his body and the second link has photos.. The article is the same as the one posted above...


    http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/...rvoir-20120411

    http://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...#photo-2804632

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    The location of this crime and the circumstances made me wonder if he could be a victim:
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7875505#post7875505"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7875505#post7875505[/ame]

    He's older than many of the victims in this case, but he looks fairly young.
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    I live about 6 blocks from where Garcia was found. I was able to give my condolences/thoughts and prayers to his poor parents at a vigil outside the bar he was last seen at. I know this area pretty well and I still can't conceive of how he ended up in the Reservoir by his own volition - he was seen on surveillance camera walking purposefully and not seeming impaired at all, up a busy street next to the reservoir, with no signs of drunkenness. IMO you'd have to be really drunk and staggering to fall into the reservoir. Furthermore, it's not directly next to the street he was walking down - you have to take a dirt pathway into the woods and to the reservoir. I don't know why he would think of walking there at night when you could just stay on a main, well-lit road like Chestnut Hill Ave to get back to campus, which is presumably where he was going. Maybe a BC/former BC/Chestnut Hill resident can shed light on this - do kids frequently walk on the Res. path back to campus? it just wouldn't seem safe to me, especially by yourself. That's why I think his case, Gene Losik's, and William Hurley's all seem related to this river killer to me - as a native Bostonian, I just can't conceive of how they would end up in the bodies of water that they ended up in willingly - I've walked Boston at night plenty of times and these are not waterways that you can just slip and fall into easily, especially if you're in a city and can get to where you're going on a well-lit street. None of these men were visibly drunk, and none of them to me had a reason for walking down to the water - Hurley was waiting for a ride home; Losik went outside his hotel to smoke a cigarette; Garcia was walking home from a bar. It just makes no sense.
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    hurley's disappearance/death is one of the cases that led me to this site... i don't know much about losik (other than the parallels made in the hurley thread) and garcia's case certainly seems suspect to me, but hurley's i refuse to accept as accidental drowning. eevery time i am at the garden, i think of that case and how no one waiting for a ride would be anywhere remotely near a place he could just fall into the water and drown in slow moving/still waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by future criminologist View Post
    I live about 6 blocks from where Garcia was found. I was able to give my condolences/thoughts and prayers to his poor parents at a vigil outside the bar he was last seen at. I know this area pretty well and I still can't conceive of how he ended up in the Reservoir by his own volition - he was seen on surveillance camera walking purposefully and not seeming impaired at all, up a busy street next to the reservoir, with no signs of drunkenness. IMO you'd have to be really drunk and staggering to fall into the reservoir. Furthermore, it's not directly next to the street he was walking down - you have to take a dirt pathway into the woods and to the reservoir. I don't know why he would think of walking there at night when you could just stay on a main, well-lit road like Chestnut Hill Ave to get back to campus, which is presumably where he was going. Maybe a BC/former BC/Chestnut Hill resident can shed light on this - do kids frequently walk on the Res. path back to campus? it just wouldn't seem safe to me, especially by yourself. That's why I think his case, Gene Losik's, and William Hurley's all seem related to this river killer to me - as a native Bostonian, I just can't conceive of how they would end up in the bodies of water that they ended up in willingly - I've walked Boston at night plenty of times and these are not waterways that you can just slip and fall into easily, especially if you're in a city and can get to where you're going on a well-lit street. None of these men were visibly drunk, and none of them to me had a reason for walking down to the water - Hurley was waiting for a ride home; Losik went outside his hotel to smoke a cigarette; Garcia was walking home from a bar. It just makes no sense.
    I used to live a block from the resevoir, and was shocked when I saw this case on the news. A roommate of mine even worked at the bar Garcia was at that night. I remember immediatley thinking "smiley face killer" when I heard the story. I'm wondering if anyone has searched the area for a smiley face graffitti at all. I'm tempted myself to walk the track around the resevoir and look, but I don't live near there anymore. There are many walls and old buildings along the track that contain graffitti.

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