07-19-2011, 12:11 AM #1
Juror public statements LIST ONLY
I'm working on conflicting juror statements...and there seems to be quite a few. I'm starting with inconsistent and/or conflicting background information and it's already proven to be a challenge.
Not sure if we could have a dedicated thread for that...(hint/hint Grandmaj)
Jennifer Ford - Juror #3
Jury Selection - Says she's never heard of case but wants to be on the jury because "everyone is talking about it so much, so I'm kind of curious as to what's happened."
7/6/11 - Never heard of the case before she was selected for jury duty.
7/18/11 - Didn’t understand magnitude of case… Didn't know the whole world was watching this case.
Jury Selection - Her mom lives in the area (30 min away). Currently lives with a roommate.
7/6/11 - Lives with mother in Largo, FL but went to stay with a friend in St. Petersburg once she found out the media followed her home in a white van.
7/18/11- Doesn’t live w/ mother; lived with boyfriend who kicked her out the day after the verdict .
7/6/11 – JF first interview (ABC)
7/6/11 - JF’s mother told St. Petersburg Times writer Leonora LaPeter Anton that her daughter and others would have free access to Disney World but ABC Rep said JF is just staying at a Disney hotel in Orlando to appear on Good Morning America Thursday morning, but she "absolutely does not" have free access to the theme parks.
7/6/11 – She’ll sleep just fine.. ..applied the law…did the best she could…there wasn’t enough evidence. [/B]
7/7/11 – Doesn’t care about criticism….(on Greta)
7/18/11 - "I was pretty much forced to talk, " she says of an interview she gave to ABC News "I don't think you should have to talk about it," "It wasn't my idea. It certainly wasn't what I wanted. I just wanted my freedom. If that is what I had to do, so be it."
If she had it her way, Ford says, she would not have given that interview – in which she returned to Orlando for a chat with a network reporter.
Compensation article: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/media/...-jennifer-ford
Jury Selection: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hl=en_US&pli=1
7/6 article: http://license.icopyright.net/user/v...MTM0NTI4MTM%3D
7/6 interview http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_antho...ry?id=14005609
7/6 interview http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/vide...juror-14014675
7/6 article http://www.huliq.com/10473/juror-3-c...ightline-video
7/7 Greta interview http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the...s-committed039
07-19-2011, 12:21 AM #2Former Member
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In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC News did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.
07-19-2011, 12:41 AM #3
You can remove, but this statement bugged me. If they were a sequestered jury, why did the jury know anything that happened outside of the trial at that point?
Ford told ABC: "Everyone wonders why we didn't speak to the media right away," Ford said. "It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict. We were crying and not just the women. It was emotional and we weren't ready. We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."
07-19-2011, 12:56 AM #4
What a great idea for a thread!!Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean.
We are all just trying to make sense of an unimaginable crime.
07-19-2011, 01:10 AM #5
Alternate juror Dean Eckstadt
"We Are Upset That People Think We're Incompetent"
"She seemed like a good mother"
"We made the decision on the law. You can't have emotion in the situation, and I think that came down to the final decision."
A group of media spent most of Tuesday evening outside Eckstadt's Palm Harbor home waiting for him to return from Orlando.
Eckstadt did not arrive[/B], but his mother told reporters that her son is still in Orlando and needs some time to relax and unwind after the high-profile trial. She says she does not know when he will return home.
Eckstadt appeared on NBC's Today show on Thursday morning.
O/T: THANK YOU FOR THE THREAD
07-19-2011, 01:16 AM #6Registered User
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I like this thread and thank you to the OP for starting it.
07-19-2011, 01:40 AM #7
Jennifer Ford was interviewed by CNN's Gary Tuchman July 13
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and Greta on Fox July 8
07-19-2011, 01:59 AM #8
JF on her experience "It's such a hard decision to make. And you want to make the right decision. And obviously you don't want to let somebody go free if they did do something like that to an innocent beautiful child, but at the same time you have to prove it and it's hard. "It's a hard decision to have to make, especially when you know you are going to get so much backlash."
Starts @ 10.45 on tape
Greta on Fox July 8
07-19-2011, 02:21 AM #9
Thanks for all the links and additional statements / information. I am adding them to my "list" as I see them and will organize them and put them all together, on one document for each juror...so keep em' coming!
Jennifer Ford - Juror #3
7/7/2011 WFTV Interview
She made her decision before the deliberations and is still sticking to it. “I knew before I went in that there was a lot of circumstantial evidence that was pretty damning, but at the same time I didn't know how the little girl died, I had no idea how that child died,” said Ford.
“Now that you've had time to think about your decision a little more, how do you feel about the decision you made?” asked Craig.
“I am confident and it's a decision that was made collectively,” she replied.
She also said she's not concerned about all of the trial watchers who said the jury's verdict was just not right.
07-19-2011, 03:27 AM #10
Here is the link to the Good Morning Americal interview she did with George Stephanopoulos on July 7th http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/case...ection=1206833
This is a rush transcript that I just typed :P IF it is too long for this thread, that's fine, but I couldn't find a transcript of this interview anywhere.
GMA: I read that you were sick to your stomach after reaching the verdict. Is that because you knew that Casey would go free even though she may have murdered her child?
JF: "Um I think it was more like not knowing whether you are setting someone free that murdered their child or if I mean we didn't know so it was hard to know if we made the right decision based on what actually happened without having enough evidence to say definitively whether she committed a crime or she didn't."
GMA: And you're not convinced that she didn't.
JF: "I am not convinced that she didn't, but I also couldn't exclude the possibility of it being an accident, so I can't find her guilty of a crime, if I am not sure if a crime was committed."
GMA then asked what the prosecution could have done...
JF: "I'm not sure what I need to see. They had strong circumstantial evidence. They just needed something solid. Something to say that it absolutely was not an accident. Something to tie it all together, and not leave the dots for us um or me to kind of connect with speculations and accusations and guessing. Uh we were instructed not to do that. So for us to connnect the dots with question marks, you know, it didn't feel justifiable to do that."
GMA: "So you had a lot of question marks, the choroform, the smell in the car, the body being found wrapped in the duct tape months later...that was not enough."
JF: "Well, I have a lot of arguments against the chloroform. There is so much doubt with that, I have to take that out of the equation. It doesn't exist for me."
GMA asked about RC's statement about the accident snowballing out of control and if that is what she believed.
JF: "Like I said I don't believe one way or another. I don't have enough evidence either way."
GMA: How much effect did that evidence have on you?
JF "Not much. Like most of the stuff, it can't be proven, so it's speculation and it doesn't mean much. You can't put too much weight on it. It's a guess."
GMA: "So you sat through all of that testimony, 33 days of testimony, you must have formed some opinion of what you think happened.:
JF "As I said before. It is easier to get to a conclusion that it was an accident, than it is to get to the conclusion that it had something to do with chloroform and duct tape.Because if it was chloroform, George said that Casey left the house with Caylee, so were they in a public place when it happened? the whole chloroform thing...was Caylee in the back seat chloroformed and duct taped. Did she put her in the trunk in a public place? I mean I don't know how to make that whole picture come together at all."
GMA Do you think if the prosecutors had not been seeking the death penalty, it would have affected how you deliberated about this case?
JF: "Absolutely! We were ..uh. I think it was mentioned even a few times, if they charged her with other things, we probably could have convicted her or you know got her a guilty sentence, but not for death, not for first degree. There's not enough to substantiate that. That's a very serious charge.
GMA goes on to ask about what the juror thought about Casey as a mom.
She said something about it might have been helpful to have a witness saying that Casey was not a good mother.
[I did not transcribe, as she did not seem to express that it was important or dicussed in deliberation IMO -- the whole question and answer seemed an aside.]
Then he asked her about NG's statement.
I would like to compare this statement with later statements. She's adjusted her story since this.
[how many interviews has JF done?]
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07-19-2011, 07:02 AM #11
Reminder: This is a LIST ONLY thread. Please keep it free of commentary. TIA.
07-19-2011, 07:38 AM #12
"If I knew then what I know now, I might not have been so honest," says Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student. "I didn't know the whole world was watching and that everyone had their mind made up on what the verdict was. I didn't understand the magnitude of it."
Ford blames the media for much of what has happened after the verdict that led to much anger and many protests.
"I think the media helped them to determine what their thoughts are," she says. "I think the media helped to determine the case before the jury saw it."
http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-ne...ing-ar-244875/It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
07-19-2011, 09:55 AM #13
Juror number 11 said a lot of their decision had to do with George Anthony’s testimony. The foreman believes George Anthony was lying, or hiding something.
“With George, with the can, with the selective memory the way that he handled the tow yard incident, River Cruz. It raised questions," he said
The foreman said the worst feeling was when George described picking up Casey’s car at the tow lot, smelling the trunk and not calling police.
“People were not going in the front door, they were going in and out of the garage and the car was right there. There was nobody who detected the sign of decomposition? If it was something that obvious with law enforcement going in and out. The father said he smelled it, but didn't say anything at that point,” he said. “Him not calling Casey at that point in time to see if she's alright, it raises a lot of questions. It really does.”
"there just wasn't enough evidence to support the chloroform claims by the state."
“How it could be concocted, how it could be purchased, it just wasn't there,” he said.
The foreman said even though the jury might have thought there was a decomposing body in the trunk of Casey’s car; it wasn't enough to convict her.
http://www.wftv.com/news/28518678/detail.htmlIt's just MOO. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time and it surely won't be the last!
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
07-19-2011, 10:25 AM #14
Juror #11 - Jury Foreman
snipped from: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/11...-never-forget/
Interview with Greta :
He also explained that there was a lot of gray area for him and the other jurors surrounding the date Caylee disappeared and the date her body was found. They also did not have enough information regarding the theory of the decomposition and the smell in the car.
He also noted that the absence of an official cause of death raised a lot of doubt among the jurors.
Thank You Mods for this thread !
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07-19-2011, 10:30 AM #15
Juror #11 - Jury Foreman
Jury Foreman interview with Greta on CFCA ...
" ... she has issues ... "
Note: Juror Foreman does NOT show his face in this video interview ...
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