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    Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #2

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    It's unfair to say that since they have money, LE will call a murder a suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colette View Post
    It's unfair to say that since they have money, LE will call a murder a suicide.
    I have to agree with that. That is saying LE would let someone go that they knew committed homicide based solely on the owner of the home having money.

    There is just no evidence of that. None.

    I do think LE will thoroughly investigate both deaths so they can be certain they have come to the right determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colette View Post
    It's unfair to say that since they have money, LE will call a murder a suicide.


    Sorry to say colette, it is not that unusal. Mayors, judges, police can be bought. It's always who you know, and people with that much $$$ know people in very high places. I'm not saying that is what will happen in this case, but it does happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Jacy View Post
    Sorry to say colette, it is not that unusal. Mayors, judges, police can be bought. It's always who you know, and people with that much $$$ know people in very high places. I'm not saying that is what will happen in this case, but it does happen!
    I don't think most of it is actually 'buying' them off, but if you are involved in something like this your connections are going to 'not believe it', they are going to try to find any other explanation, they are not going to want to look into your personal life, they don't want retribution later... maybe even more than this, but the list is a start. If your high level connection owes you a favor or just can't fathom you didn't do something, that may just tip a decision one way or the other. There are also other economic reasons - no one wants the real estate in certain neighborhoods to go down, figuratively and literally. But then again, no one wants an unsolved crime in a pricey resort area - on this one though, it would fade away and people would put it down to a suicide. If not, it's not a killer on the loose who will kill again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    I don't think most of it is actually 'buying' them off, but if you are involved in something like this your connections are going to 'not believe it', they are going to try to find any other explanation, they are not going to want to look into your personal life, they don't want retribution later... maybe even more than this, but the list is a start. If your high level connection owes you a favor or just can't fathom you didn't do something, that may just tip a decision one way or the other. There are also other economic reasons - no one wants the real estate in certain neighborhoods to go down, figuratively and literally. But then again, no one wants an unsolved crime in a pricey resort area - on this one though, it would fade away and people would put it down to a suicide. If not, it's not a killer on the loose who will kill again.
    Actually, I wasn't just talking about money, JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    I don't think most of it is actually 'buying' them off, but if you are involved in something like this your connections are going to 'not believe it', they are going to try to find any other explanation, they are not going to want to look into your personal life, they don't want retribution later... maybe even more than this, but the list is a start. If your high level connection owes you a favor or just can't fathom you didn't do something, that may just tip a decision one way or the other. There are also other economic reasons - no one wants the real estate in certain neighborhoods to go down, figuratively and literally. But then again, no one wants an unsolved crime in a pricey resort area - on this one though, it would fade away and people would put it down to a suicide. If not, it's not a killer on the loose who will kill again.
    I really have more faith in LE than that. It would mean the entire police force would have to be in on it. I find that unrealistic. This isnt about taking care of a speeding ticket and making it go away.

    If they determine it was a suicide then IMO it was a suicide. And I don't find that an unreasonable option either. In fact I really lean much more to a tragic suicide than homicide even now.

    Lots of rich and powerful people have been arrested and convicted for criminal wrongdoings. Some serving LWOP or on death row.

    So just because the home owner has money does not convince me LE would just let whomever is responsible for the homicide (IF there was one) get off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I really have more faith in LE than that. It would mean the entire police force would have to be in on it. I find that unrealistic. This isnt about taking care of a speeding ticket and making it go away.

    If they determine it was a suicide then IMO it was a suicide. And I don't find that an unreasonable option either. In fact I really lean much more to a tragic suicide than homicide even now.

    Lots of rich and powerful people have been arrested and convicted for criminal wrongdoings. Some serving LWOP or on death row.

    So just because the home owner has money does not convince me LE would just let whomever is responsible for the homicide (IF there was one) get off.

    I wasn't necessarily pointing the finger at LE although nothing in what I said implies the entire police force would have to be in on it, nor do I think that is probable. In these cases, different LE working on the case have different roles with most of them only knowing a part of the story. For instance, a forensic person or two will collect evidence at the scene but a different forensic person or team will analyze that evidence in the lab. Someone determines what evidence is sent on for what testing and if advanced testing is ordered. It's just not as simple as saying they would all have to be in on it.

    LE does not make all the decisions in these cases and at some point a prosecutor gets involved who basically decides what evidence will be presented and who will get charged - that person often has the head DA looking over him/her and having input. There are judges who make rulings. There are decisions on what is told to the media, gag orders, sealing autopsies, etc. Every single person involved does not participate in every element or decision. Most involved only will intersect with a small part of a case and only communicate with a limited number of players.

    Let's say this is ruled a homicide, but they have a few possible suspects ... then what happens? What if the forensics are not totally conclusive and it could go either way, but they have a great suspect because of motivation or for whatever other reasons. They choose at that point whether to pursue that suspect or call it a day and a suicide. Further, if they didn't gather the right evidence against that suspect from the beginning, they may not have a strong case and might decide not to pursue a conviction (and knowing they will be up against a multi-member team of well known, well funded defense experts and witnesses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Jacy View Post
    Sorry to say colette, it is not that unusal. Mayors, judges, police can be bought. It's always who you know, and people with that much $$$ know people in very high places. I'm not saying that is what will happen in this case, but it does happen!
    I don't know if it's so much that they are bought, but LE tend to step lightly where people with money are involved. IMO if this happened in a cheap apartment building, I highly doubt that suicide would be a consideration.

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    Remember RN also had that blue scarf around her neck

    If this is a suicide or a homicide, no matter what kind of knot was used, it served its purpose; she is deceased

    If the knot is not correct for a hanging, does that tell us that perhaps she was never really "hanging"; the scene was staged?

    Someone had to "rush" the child out of the home; get her to the airport and on her way to SC..so who else was in the home...remember one of the initial stories said that Dina was there...how far is the airport? Did the police even get to question her?

    Why such a big secret as to if another child was there unless that child had something to do with the "accident"

    Or was the disturbance at Dina's house due to her finding out about Maxie's accident.....

    This is definitely a "made for TV movie"
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorekeeper View Post
    Remember RN also had that blue scarf around her neck

    If this is a suicide or a homicide, no matter what kind of knot was used, it served its purpose; she is deceased

    If the knot is not correct for a hanging, does that tell us that perhaps she was never really "hanging"; the scene was staged?

    Someone had to "rush" the child out of the home; get her to the airport and on her way to SC..so who else was in the home...remember one of the initial stories said that Dina was there...how far is the airport? Did the police even get to question her?

    Why such a big secret as to if another child was there unless that child had something to do with the "accident"

    Or was the disturbance at Dina's house due to her finding out about Maxie's accident.....

    This is definitely a "made for TV movie"
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    eh????? what disturbance at Dina's house? Missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anyoldtime48 View Post
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    eh????? what disturbance at Dina's house? Missed that.

    http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011...-suicide-meme/

    time previously posted this on thread one

    it's a good read
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorekeeper View Post
    ... snipped ...

    If the knot is not correct for a hanging, does that tell us that perhaps she was never really "hanging"; the scene was staged?
    The type of knot it was not was new information. It was not a "noose" knot. It could have been any knot. And yes, it was an effective knot whatever it was.

    I don't think the type of knot can tell us anything about scene staging or not.

    That's alot of nots/knots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    The type of knot it was not was new information. It was not a "noose" knot. It could have been any knot. And yes, it was an effective knot whatever it was.

    I don't think the type of knot can tell us anything about scene staging or not.

    That's alto of nots/knots!
    I just want to point out that all of this scrutiny of the way the noose was tied could be for naught, (another "not"!), depending upon the reason the cop called it "makeshift".

    If the description came from a police report, it could be that the person writing the report or the person being quoted referred to it as "makeshift" because it was made with an electrical cord instead of a rope, if that's what was used.

    On the other hand, if the person calling it "makeshift" was someone who would be an expert on tying knots, it may well have been the wrong kind of knot. Which tells us nothing, since a knot expert trying to stage a suicide might be sharp enough to tie the wrong kind of knot on purpose.

    I still don't suspect the tugboat brother, though!

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    They don't cover the body now like they once learned not to move the body. Unless they know the cause of death, body stays uncovered until forensics are complete. - previously posted......

    couldn't they have put up a make-shift tent over her without jepardizing the scene?
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