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    so, I listened to the whole radio show, but I don't know where to find the written info that was posted here

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    Room-mates Question:

    I'm sorry, because this has probably been covered before, but:

    Were JR's roommates ever questioned or considered POIs? Or had they alread left Bloomington for the summer? We hear rumors about his mysterious "guest" but never any mention of roomies.

    Since this is a college-age crowd we hear about roommates for every other known (and even some suspected) POI and the victim herself. But nothing on JR?

    That's a pretty big townhome for one college dude.

    TIA for any info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayKat View Post
    It has been known for LE to call in psychics on cases.
    I know that there have been cases where psychics have been involved, even at law enforcements request. My question to everyone is- is there one case where it is reported or someone other than the psychic has gone on record to applaud them for their help in a case? Maybe I am a cynic, but I see this as a marketing ploy. Why dont the psychics ever predict a tsunami or hurricane or actually save a life. It seems like most of what I am finding on the internet about psychics involved with criminal investigations is very vague and is always well after the fact. The fact that Gale St. John drove through the area close to Caylee Anthony's family and picked a spot where caylee was found does not surprise me when she could have made a ton of different videos and the one she posts doesnt have a date. According to the article, the Spierer's didnt ask for this help. If Gale's involvement was not at their request, it looks an awful lot like a self-serving move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayKat View Post
    What dog hit on that area? I do not remember a dog hitting on that area.
    her dog, I believe Kimber. It's on the video. Of course the area was underwater but the dog basically went as far as it could and hit.

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    ok let's take the info from Gail St. John and put it together, 2 of her dogs hit the area, we then learned that the same area was hit by police dogs a few days before. have your doubts about psychics all you want, but dogs noses don't lie. they have no reason to. let's hope for a break in the case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaidmom View Post
    Room-mates Question:

    I'm sorry, because this has probably been covered before, but:

    Were JR's roommates ever questioned or considered POIs? Or had they alread left Bloomington for the summer? We hear rumors about his mysterious "guest" but never any mention of roomies.

    Since this is a college-age crowd we hear about roommates for every other known (and even some suspected) POI and the victim herself. But nothing on JR?

    That's a pretty big townhome for one college dude.

    TIA for any info.
    Rumor does have it that they were all gone for the summer. HT, in one story that ran in MSM, has reported that JR had a guest staying with him.

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    Wow, I hadn't remembered there being a dog. I will have to go and look at that video again... it has been a few years.

    Remember the video of their PI in communication with a psychic near that area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniek View Post
    ok let's take the info from Gail St. John and put it together, 2 of her dogs hit the area, we then learned that the same area was hit by police dogs a few days before. have your doubts about psychics all you want, but dogs noses don't lie. they have no reason to. let's hope for a break in the case!
    Dogs noses do lie. Airports are emptied, occasionally, because a dog hits on something that isnt there. People's cars are searched because dogs hit on substances that arent there. Without any knowledge of Gale's entire search. Without any dates or evidence that the dogs didnt hit on anything else, as well, I just cant take it as anything more than a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniek View Post
    ok let's take the info from Gail St. John and put it together, 2 of her dogs hit the area, we then learned that the same area was hit by police dogs a few days before. have your doubts about psychics all you want, but dogs noses don't lie. they have no reason to. let's hope for a break in the case!
    I do believe in the dogs, psychics, astrology, etc... I need to listen to that show again. I don't remember the dogs or maybe, that is a new video. I do hope they have a break soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayKat View Post
    Wow, I hadn't remembered there being a dog. I will have to go and look at that video again... it has been a few years.

    Remember the video of their PI in communication with a psychic near that area?
    haha yea, but that wasn't the same one and I really don't believe that he was talking to a "psychic" unless her name was casey anthony or jose baez (someone who knew where the body was).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniek View Post
    ok let's take the info from Gail St. John and put it together, 2 of her dogs hit the area, we then learned that the same area was hit by police dogs a few days before. have your doubts about psychics all you want, but dogs noses don't lie. they have no reason to. let's hope for a break in the case!
    I'll take Team Dog over Team Human Psychic any day. And that's not to disparage psychics (or humans lol) just that our canine companions operate free of our human biases. Rock on four-legged sleuths!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayKat View Post
    From what I remember... according to Gail on that radio show... 17th St? Also, I didn't remember dogs being involved in that "Blind Drive".

    Gail did a "Blind Drive" in the Anthony case and alerted to the location where Caylee was eventually found. I think that drive is on video. Also, I don't think the dogs were involved.
    Will you clarify what you mean about 17th St? I looked for her in my car on several streets off of W. 17th. I have to run but will be back later. TY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloom54 View Post
    I'm listening right now.


    So let's talk about this. Even though the Spierer's report that they are "part of the investigative team," would there be a legitimate reason for LE to keep this info from the parents?

    I would imagine that there might be.... and the fact that they (apparently) were the ones who called off the psychic, they must have been convinced by LE that they are working in the right direction.. I just don't know.

    It sounds like LE doesn't want anyone else to gain info that could hinder the case. If other people got involved it may tip off actual person(s) that harmed her. Maybe it was at the suggestion of LE for the Spierers' to not "need" further services. IMO the more people attune to the situation, the greater the risk in sabotaging the investigation. I very much hope that when the answers come, we will be able to look back and say "ok now it makes sense, that's why LE chose to do things that way..." that's my very big hope. We have to have faith that the right thing is being done. Anything else would be disheartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smurf View Post
    Is there any proof that help from a psychic actually amounts to anything? Not asking to be obnoxious, but is there any conclusive evidence that a psychic has helped to solve a case? Some vets on here might know the answer to this.
    I'd like to know this too. Personally, I'm a skeptic. However, if my daughter were missing and a lady claims her dog "hit" on a site (where she couldn't possibly know that LE"s dog had hit earlier), then LE admits that their dog did in fact hit there earlier, I'd keep her around. Obviously LE didn't share this detail with the family, but the psychic did. That alone, would cause me to want her help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabby66 View Post
    I'd like to know this too. Personally, I'm a skeptic. However, if my daughter were missing and a lady claims her dog "hit" on a site (where she couldn't possibly know that LE"s dog had hit earlier), then LE admits that their dog did in fact hit there earlier, I'd keep her around. Obviously LE didn't share this detail with the family, but the psychic did. That alone, would cause me to want her help.
    not if LE could convince me that other people having that info would be detrimental to the final resolution of the case. I have to believe that the family still has confidence in LE, or they wouldn't have agreed to call off the psychic JMO

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    I'll just say, if they continue going north, they may just find something. JMHO

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    north from?

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    north from?
    North on route 37, from Bloomington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloom54 View Post
    not if LE could convince me that other people having that info would be detrimental to the final resolution of the case. I have to believe that the family still has confidence in LE, or they wouldn't have agreed to call off the psychic JMO
    Yes, that's a great point. I do completely understand that LE will keep things from the Spierers. However, if it were MY DAUGHTER, I may not be as understanding. I'm sure that I'd want to know every single detail and it would be very hard to sit back and let someone else control things, without keeping me in the loop. I'm not a controlling person, but I do like to be in control......meaning that I don't try to control what OTHER people do, but I like to have control over situations that deal with me directly. It would be extremely hard for me to allow someone else to be in this driver's seat personally, if I were the Mom.

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    Actually, I think North Walnut would fall into a search area also.

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    I can't remember if I saw this somewhere, so hopefully someone can help me out. Does anyone recall a news story that indicated when DR went back to his apartment? He went with LS to the party at 12:30, but I don't remember seeing anything that specifically followed his path after that.

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    As far as I can tell, we only know that he went back to his apartment nothing about the time.

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    Id still like to know if whatever fire happened in Martinsville that happened right b4 the search out there(that i dont wanna pay H-T to read about)was searched for human remains. Would they automatically do that? Any1 know? Am I the only 1 curious about this?
    I feel silly not having read the story about the fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaidmom View Post
    Room-mates Question:

    I'm sorry, because this has probably been covered before, but:

    Were JR's roommates ever questioned or considered POIs? Or had they alread left Bloomington for the summer? We hear rumors about his mysterious "guest" but never any mention of roomies.

    Since this is a college-age crowd we hear about roommates for every other known (and even some suspected) POI and the victim herself. But nothing on JR?

    That's a pretty big townhome for one college dude.

    TIA for any info.
    I read awhile ago (can't remember if it was here or someplace else) that JR has/had 4 roommates at 5 North and that all his roomies had gone home for the summer before the night of Lauren's disappearance.

    Someone also posted a link to a police report of a break-in that took place at JR's townhome last winter and that report listed all of the roommates' names. I don't remember the names now (didn't seem important to remember since as far as I can tell, they weren't in Bloomington at the time of the disappearance and didn't seem particularly important to the case) but I think if you did some research on google, you could probably find that report.

    At the time, I looked all the roommates up on facebook and found 3 of them. All 3 of those listed the same hometown in New Jersey on their profile so I assumed they knew each other before going to IU.

    And I also remember awhile ago reading posts from someone on PT who was claiming to be friends with JR's roommates but not w/ JR. That person also stated that JR's roommates are in fact from NJ. (Don't think it matters where his roomies are from necessarily but I'm just including all info I have)
    Last edited by jennyb629; 07-24-2011 at 10:13 PM. Reason: remembered more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter812 View Post
    Will you clarify what you mean about 17th St? I looked for her in my car on several streets off of W. 17th. I have to run but will be back later. TY.
    In that radio show wasn't Gail saying it was around 17th St. or was it the 1700 area? IDK... I just find it odd with the addressing in that area.

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