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    New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...-192334971.htm

    I wonder if Al Gore will give his Nobel Peace Prize back, now?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    ...I wonder if Al Gore will give his Nobel Peace Prize back, now?
    Not until your link works, at least.

    I don't think Al Gore has to apologize for popularizing something that had achieved scientific near-consensus.

    If it turns out the scientists were wrong, Al Gore and I and everyone else will revise our understanding of the facts. That's how science works.

    As opposed to organized religion, where people just keep believing the same old nonsense despite the utter lack of supporting evidence.


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    Lots of information out there on Dr. Spencer. He's a wing-nut. I don't think Al Gore needs to worry about the status of his Nobel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    Not until your link works, at least.

    I don't think Al Gore has to apologize for popularizing something that had achieved scientific near-consensus.

    If it turns out the scientists were wrong, Al Gore and I and everyone else will revise our understanding of the facts. That's how science works.

    As opposed to organized religion, where people just keep believing the same old nonsense despite the utter lack of supporting evidence.
    Friggin' links!!! LOL! Hopefully this one will work. And Al Gore cherry picked his science for his movie, that's pretty well known, and made a small fortune off of his little crusade.

    I wouldn't bring religion into this if I were you, because it's not only OT (and an uncalled for insult) but I'll wipe the floor with you, lol!

    Try this link: http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html



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    I don't understand why no link is wanting to work!!!! GAH!



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    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (KJV)

    10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord. (KJV)

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    And, to be fair (and assuming this link works, lol) there are those disagreeing with this report: http://www.space.com/12469-climate-c...nked-fast.html



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    I think I'll believe the anecdotal evidence (glaciers melting, oceans warming) that documentaries produced by people that have visited the affected areas, before I'll consider modelling by NASA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulette View Post
    I think I'll believe the anecdotal evidence (glaciers melting, oceans warming) that documentaries produced by people that have visited the affected areas, before I'll consider modelling by NASA.
    really? Anecdotal over proof?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie09 View Post
    really? Anecdotal over proof?
    I won't argue that anecdotal evidence has its limitations.

    But many scientists are pointing out that Spencer has misread his own modeling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    Friggin' links!!! LOL! Hopefully this one will work. And Al Gore cherry picked his science for his movie, that's pretty well known, and made a small fortune off of his little crusade.

    I wouldn't bring religion into this if I were you, because it's not only OT (and an uncalled for insult) but I'll wipe the floor with you, lol!

    Try this link: http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html
    I stand by my post and its contents. Religion is only OT here when some believer gets offended. The rest of the time it is discussed with some regularity.

    What I was responding to was the smugness with which each challenge to climate change science is greeted, as if the fact that science doesn't always give us absolute certainty were a weakness. In fact, the ability of science to correct itself is its strength. As a rule, organized religions have not demonstrated the same ability.

    And BTW, Al Gore isn't infallible, but his aim was to make a concept understandable to the general public. He's not a scientist himself nor does he claim to be one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    I stand by my post and its contents. Religion is only OT here when some believer gets offended. The rest of the time it is discussed with some regularity.
    Well no, it's OT because it has nothing to do with climate change.



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    I tend to agree with DK, Nova, that religion doesn't actually have anything to do with global warming, or, as I'd prefer to call it, climate change.

    And I'm left wondering two things:

    If I had posted this link, would you have said the same thing? Somehow, I doubt it, as religion is not something someone connects readily to me...but it is to DK. KWIM?

    And second, what a great deflection of discussion about the topic - global warming - into religion.

    With the latter, I think that the discussion should be about the science of global warming/climate change, and let's leave God out of this...after all, one of the main tenants of climate change is that it's man-made...so let's talk about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herding Cats View Post
    I tend to agree with DK, Nova, that religion doesn't actually have anything to do with global warming, or, as I'd prefer to call it, climate change.

    And I'm left wondering two things:

    If I had posted this link, would you have said the same thing? Somehow, I doubt it, as religion is not something someone connects readily to me...but it is to DK. KWIM?

    And second, what a great deflection of discussion about the topic - global warming - into religion.

    With the latter, I think that the discussion should be about the science of global warming/climate change, and let's leave God out of this...after all, one of the main tenants of climate change is that it's man-made...so let's talk about that.

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    Thanks, and my biggest concern is that no group of scientists can disprove beyond a reasonable doubt that any changes in the climate are not a part of earth's natural cycle. We obviously know that the earth's climate has changed dramatically on numerous occasions over it's history. The reason that worries me, is because if it is, in fact, just part of the cycle, then we cannot stop it, and this would be the first time it's happened with the earth so populated and industrialized. The end result could be catastrophic if we do NOT start to make adaptations for what may be inevitable, and not controlled by man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Herding Cats View Post
    I tend to agree with DK, Nova, that religion doesn't actually have anything to do with global warming, or, as I'd prefer to call it, climate change.

    And I'm left wondering two things:

    If I had posted this link, would you have said the same thing? Somehow, I doubt it, as religion is not something someone connects readily to me...but it is to DK. KWIM?

    And second, what a great deflection of discussion about the topic - global warming - into religion.

    With the latter, I think that the discussion should be about the science of global warming/climate change, and let's leave God out of this...after all, one of the main tenants of climate change is that it's man-made...so let's talk about that.

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    a. It was just a remark and hardly a "deflection."

    b. You are probably right that the identity of the OP brought the comment to my mind. But am I to blame if some posters associate themselves with religious faith?

    But c. I was responding to the smugness with regards to Al Gore and, by extension, scientific consensus. In my experience, that smugness is very much connected to religious "certainty", at least in posts here. (Atheists can be smug, too, of course, but non-belief isn't inherently hostile to questioning.)

    And d. Religious certainty has lately been very much a foe of science, at least in the U.S. Personally, I think science and faith can be reconciled, but not when faith takes the form of unquestioning and unquestionable dogma.

    Finally e. It's funny how religious believers nowadays have no problem inserting themselves and their beliefs into questions of politics and science, but woe to he who mentions the fact.

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