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Thread: MD - I-270 in Frederick - White Female 237UFMD, 16-25, July 1991

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    MD - I-270 in Frederick - White Female 237UFMD, 16-25, July 1991

    Found 7/31/1991 on 270 Southbound, Frederick County MD.

    http://marylandmissing.com/home/featuredcase.html


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    Last edited by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed; 08-01-2011 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Clarification - Two Does getting confused

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    MarylandMissing the link is a beautiful tribute to who she might have been. Thank you for your efforts on behalf of this unidentified girl.

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    MD-Frederick County UID Female

    Originally posted by wv171, moved by Curves:

    The victim was found on the southbound side of
    Interstate 270, three miles southeast of Frederick,

    Frederick County, Maryland on July 31, 1991.

    Note: WVSP is asking for help on this case too.. WV171 sw

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    Possible match - Tina Marie Crouch April 3 1991

    Tina Marie Crouch
    Missing since April 3, 1991 from Gaffney, Cherokee County, South Carolina.
    Classification: Missing

    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: June 21, 1970
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2" (156 cm); 110 lbs. (50 kg)
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair with grey streaks in it; brown eyes.
    Marks, Scars: Tina has a scar on the right side of her abdomen. Pierced ears.
    Clothing: Crouch was last seen wearing a light-purple jacket, a white blouse, blue jeans and tennis shoes. Earrings, necklaces and rings.
    AKA: Chris; Christina
    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Crouch was last seen in the vicinity of Jackson Street with a male individual. She has ties to the Maryland area.
    Verifiable information was received that Crouch was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia, in 1997.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Cherokee County Sheriff's Office
    864-489-4722

    Agency Case Number: 2001-003026
    NCIC Number:
    M-814354663


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    The Jane Doe has been on the WV state police website for years. Crouch is not Jane Doe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marylandmissing View Post
    The Jane Doe has been on the WV state police website for years. Crouch is not Jane Doe.
    I am curious as to why a Maryland UID is being listed on the WV State Police site. Is there any particular reason you believe Crouch is not a possibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dearmont View Post
    I am curious as to why a Maryland UID is being listed on the WV State Police site. Is there any particular reason you believe Crouch is not a possibility?
    There's many unidentified on other regions police site...

    See this statement: Verifiable information was received that Crouch was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia, in 1997.

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    Don't know if it will help but I attempted to colorize this Jane Doe.
    It's difficult to colorize hair that is part of the material the reconstruction is made of and not a wig but I gave it my best shot.

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    Martha Wes Dunn?
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/286dftx.html

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/237ufmd.html
    https://identifyus.org/cases/1665

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    Kelly Dove 1961 Virginia
    Tiffany Sessions 1968 Florida

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    Vigil Held For Jane Doe

    Sunday marks 20 years since a worker cutting weeds along southbound Interstate 270 in Frederick County found the body of a young woman.

    The woman, whose decomposed body was found down an embankment at the Baker Hill Road overpass, has never been identified and her killing remains unsolved.

    The Maryland Missing Persons Network and Maryland State Police will hold a vigil to bring attention to the cold case at 7:30 p.m. on Sunday in the parking lot of the Worthington Farm on Baker Hill Road at Monocacy National Battlefield.
    Snipped: http://germantown.patch.com/articles...y-in-frederick

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    Here's a new NamUs MP, added last week and made public today:

    Trudy Crystal-Dawn Pasko

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/13486/10



    She seems to me to be an interesting possible to this Jane Doe.

    * Her height (5'1") is right (DoeNet estimate: 5'1"-5'3")
    * Her age (15-16) is at the low end of the age range (16-21 per NamUs)
    * The circumstances and timeline are consistent. She was a runaway from a juvenile detention facility in Florida, and was last seen about 8 months prior to the discovery of the remains.

    At first blush, I would say no because Trudy is clearly missing her #7 tooth, and the facial reconstructions don't depict that. However, the dentals indicate that the Jane Doe was missing 7, 8, and 9 postmortem. It might be possible that they confused postmortem and antemortem tooth loss when looking at the dentals. She is turned to her left in the photo, so it's hard to tell whether her #10 tooth is "protruding and reversed". But in her "Physical Characteristics" section, it indicates that "one front tooth overlaps the other front tooth". Her upper-central incisors (#8 & #9) don't appear to overlap each other, so they must be talking about #9 & #10).

    Another possible inconsistency is that the UID was wearing various jewelry items. I wouldn't suspect that a runaway from a detention facility would be wearing much jewelry.


    UID Links:
    DoeNet UID Case 237UFMD http://doenetwork.org/cases/237ufmd.html
    NamUs UP Case 1665 https://identifyus.org/cases/1665
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    It certainly is an interesting possibility but as you said I think the dentals rule her out. It's hard to tell from the photograph but it doesn't look to me as if #10 is either protruding or overlapping with #9. Furthermore I'm not familiar with a left lateral incisor being termed a "front tooth", though I'm not familiar with US dental vernacular.

    The #7 issue really puts the nail in the coffin. It's hard to imagine such a glaring error being made by an ME/LE. Is there any precedent for a mistake like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sallust View Post
    It certainly is an interesting possibility but as you said I think the dentals rule her out. It's hard to tell from the photograph but it doesn't look to me as if #10 is either protruding or overlapping with #9. Furthermore I'm not familiar with a left lateral incisor being termed a "front tooth", though I'm not familiar with US dental vernacular.

    The #7 issue really puts the nail in the coffin. It's hard to imagine such a glaring error being made by an ME/LE. Is there any precedent for a mistake like that?
    Yes, there is precedent for all kinds of mistakes, including mistaking antemortem tooth loss for postmortem loss. It's also possible that the tooth broke off at the root, and then the root was lost postmortem.

    But you're probably right. This is quite unlikely.

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    Too bad, because it's a decent likeness....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Here's a new NamUs MP, added last week and made public today:

    Trudy Crystal-Dawn Pasko

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/13486/10




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    According to Charley Project (in the resolved section), Trudy Pasko was located alive.
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    Well that's happy news!

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    I-270 connects to I-70. That leads up to Pennsylvania. I-81 and I-76 connect later on. She was found on I-270 southbound. Maybe if the trucker was responsible, he picked her up somewhere north of the area. Maybe we could check to see if anyone fits her description from Pennsylvania or New York... I wish we could find out his driving route.

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7500/37

    LKA in 1984 at age 14. In 1991 she would have been 21. They don't have any dental records for her though.

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    Wow. That's a great resemblance. The toofs are spot-on

    Trouble is that she is way too tall. But I've seen enough errors on height that I wouldn't rule-out on that.

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    The height might not be too far off. The high end estimate was 63". Nancy Jo was 66".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamashawn View Post
    The height might not be too far off. The high end estimate was 63". Nancy Jo was 66".
    They have the height at 5'1" to 5'3", so there is already a 3" range for her probable height. Assuming that they measured the bones correctly, and Nancy Jo's height is correctly noted, it would be pretty far off.

    However, on two MP cases (Robert Donlick and Troy Kozkowski) matched to UID's by Websleuths members, the difference between the measured height of the UID and the reported height of the MP were 4" and 3", respectively. And these weren't skeletal remains cases, they were intact bodies.

    So as I said above, you can't always presume that heights are correct.
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    I think Nancy's eyes are very similar to the Jane Doe's eyes. I think the overall appearance is also very similar.

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    Another thing to keep in mind is that in many instances, these cases remain unresolved for so long because something is incorrect.

    I've seen three cases in recent years that remained unresolved because of incorrect Dates of Last Contact. I've also seen a few with wildly incorrect age estimates and, as I mentioned above, incorrect heights.

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    So...I guess I'll give Sgt. Tina Becker a call? There was no case worker listed on NAMUS, but she was listed on the Doe Network. I'll let you know how it goes.

    I called and left a message with Nancy Jo's name, NAMUS# and NECMEC#.
    Last edited by mamashawn; 02-27-2012 at 01:24 PM. Reason: correct Sgt.'s name and add info.

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