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    ZFG Civil Case: Casey's Deposition #2

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    I have a sick feeling ZG will not be collecting any money here. Because Casey will have a built up mental insanity situation by then. Her therapy sessions could make this possible. Casey being mentally not responsible for her actions at the time. Because of Caylee's death. With a couple sick therapists backing that view up. Then the deposition may never happen. As in just not worth it from Murray's point of view. In this crazy court case, this may well happen. And these therapy BS sessions may only be a deflection against all civil suits. Oh how I hope I am wrong here, but........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schu7 View Post
    I have a sick feeling ZG will not be collecting any money here. Because Casey will have a built up mental insanity situation by then. Her therapy sessions could make this possible. Casey being mentally not responsible for her actions at the time. Because of Caylee's death. With a couple sick therapists backing that view up. Then the deposition may never happen. As in just not worth it from Murray's point of view. In this crazy court case, this may well happen. And these therapy BS sessions may only be a deflection against all civil suits. Oh how I hope I am wrong here, but........
    I don't know if she will ever collect, but I think the case will go her way.
    JM is like a terrier after a rabbit. He is not letting her get away with it..

    IIRC they already proved she was not insane either at the time Caylee died, up to and including the trial. She knew right from wrong, so she must pay..



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    Crazy isn't a defense in a civil case; only criminal.


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    IMO, all KC's attorneys have to say is that ZFG was made up, game over. MOO. It is a "ruined reputation" lawsuit for 15,000. I am sure there are many people with that name and they are not filing lawsuits. If someone said I left my child with Mark Jones, or Mary Jones, Hypothetically,what evidence is there that one didleave a child a with Mark Jones or Mary Jones? The case has no merit, there is no evidence linking KC to a ZFG, only KC's statement which KC admitted was a lie. ZFG never lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    Let me put this another way as so many seem to think this lawsuit will go somewhere:

    My name is Mary Jones, some nutcase says that I was a caretaker for a person later found dead. The nutcase has no info on how to contact me, no correspondance whatsoever. No link back to me.

    How in the world could/would a court find that the nutcase meant me?

    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?
    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO


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    Quote Originally Posted by suepitzl View Post
    IMO, all KC's attorneys have to say is that ZFG was made up, game over. MOO. It is a "ruined reputation" lawsuit for 15,000. I am sure there are many people with that name and they are not filing lawsuits. If someone said I left my child with Mark Jones, or Mary Jones, Hypothetically,what evidence is there that one didleave a child a with Mark Jones or Mary Jones? The case has no merit, there is no evidence linking KC to a ZFG, only KC's statement which KC admitted was a lie. ZFG never lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    Let me put this another way as so many seem to think this lawsuit will go somewhere:

    My name is Mary Jones, some nutcase says that I was a caretaker for a person later found dead. The nutcase has no info on how to contact me, no correspondance whatsoever. No link back to me.

    How in the world could/would a court find that the nutcase meant me?

    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?
    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO
    I actually do have a very common name. It pops up all over the place.
    But there is not usually a connection beyond having the same name.

    The Sawgrass connection and the time frame will be strong evidence,but who knows if it will be enough. For some it is and for others ,not so much.
    I think she deserves her day in court and let Morgan lay out what he's got. Then we'll know if it's frivolous. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by suepitzl View Post
    IMO, all KC's attorneys have to say is that ZFG was made up, game over. MOO. It is a "ruined reputation" lawsuit for 15,000. I am sure there are many people with that name and they are not filing lawsuits. If someone said I left my child with Mark Jones, or Mary Jones, Hypothetically,what evidence is there that one didleave a child a with Mark Jones or Mary Jones? The case has no merit, there is no evidence linking KC to a ZFG, only KC's statement which KC admitted was a lie. ZFG never lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    Let me put this another way as so many seem to think this lawsuit will go somewhere:

    My name is Mary Jones, some nutcase says that I was a caretaker for a person later found dead. The nutcase has no info on how to contact me, no correspondance whatsoever. No link back to me.

    How in the world could/would a court find that the nutcase meant me?

    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?
    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO
    Well, because you were shopping for an apartment in the exact location where the fake 'Mary Jones' resided. In fact, if you looked at her exact apartment as part of your tour, had license plates from the same state, and were at her imaginary residence exactly one day after the dead person was, well, ummm, made to be dead, then I think they can zero in on you and only you.

    See how it worked for the real ZG??
    The above is my opinion only based on published accounts of the case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by suepitzl View Post
    IMO, all KC's attorneys have to say is that ZFG was made up, game over. MOO. It is a "ruined reputation" lawsuit for 15,000. I am sure there are many people with that name and they are not filing lawsuits. If someone said I left my child with Mark Jones, or Mary Jones, Hypothetically,what evidence is there that one didleave a child a with Mark Jones or Mary Jones? The case has no merit, there is no evidence linking KC to a ZFG, only KC's statement which KC admitted was a lie. ZFG never lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    Let me put this another way as so many seem to think this lawsuit will go somewhere:

    My name is Mary Jones, some nutcase says that I was a caretaker for a person later found dead. The nutcase has no info on how to contact me, no correspondance whatsoever. No link back to me.

    How in the world could/would a court find that the nutcase meant me?

    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?
    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO
    Not at all frivolous. If you throw a rock into a crowd of people and injure a person, it doesn't matter who you meant to injure, or if you meant to injure anyone at all - you did something illegal and harmed someone, so you pay. imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by suepitzl View Post
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    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?

    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO
    ..the point of the civil suit by this particular Zenaida Gonzales isn't that kc identified HER -----only that kc came up with the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales, a woman who lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    ..it doesn't matter where kc got the name/description from.

    ..what matters is----LE went to Sawgrass and found out that ---A--- Zenaida Gonzales had looked at an apt. there.

    ..they went to HER door , took HER down for questioning, HER apt. manager asked HER to leave, due to the negative publicity, HER boss at the housekeeping job asked HER to leave , due to the negative publicity.

    HER kids names, HER car etc. were in the police report and released.

    ..this didn't happen to any other Zenaida Gonzales-----just HER.

    ..it didn't matter that she didn't fit the description or have the full name that lies-about-everything-kc had said.

    ..HER life /HER kids lives were impacted------b/c of kc's lies about the fictitious sitter @ Sawgrass apartments that she happened to share the name of.

    ..that's the premise of their civil suit.
    ..and i think it has merit.
    my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by suepitzl View Post
    IMO, all KC's attorneys have to say is that ZFG was made up, game over. MOO. It is a "ruined reputation" lawsuit for 15,000. I am sure there are many people with that name and they are not filing lawsuits. If someone said I left my child with Mark Jones, or Mary Jones, Hypothetically,what evidence is there that one didleave a child a with Mark Jones or Mary Jones? The case has no merit, there is no evidence linking KC to a ZFG, only KC's statement which KC admitted was a lie. ZFG never lived at Sawgrass apartments.

    Let me put this another way as so many seem to think this lawsuit will go somewhere:

    My name is Mary Jones, some nutcase says that I was a caretaker for a person later found dead. The nutcase has no info on how to contact me, no correspondance whatsoever. No link back to me.

    How in the world could/would a court find that the nutcase meant me?

    It is all speculation on M&M's view, IMO.

    I do believe it will go nowhere. Think about it........if someone threw your name out there, and it is a common name, would you be out there claiming your reputation was ruined?
    ZFG (especially in the latin community) is a very common name. How do M&M prove she meant this ZFG? Frivolous. MOO
    Remember: Z Fernandez G, This is what KC said. This ZG doesn't have the middle name of Fernandez.

    I agree that there isn't going to be proof she is one because the complete name doesn't even match.


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    I don't know how to post links here, but I thought I might update this thread anyway.

    FCA is going to be deposed Saturday in the civil case involving ZFG, but she expected to plead the fifth.

    In the Orlando Sentinel online article, Matt Morgan, JFG Attorney says they have to run through the questions anyway and that her expected refusal to provide answers will form the basis for the Morgans to ask the Circuit Judge determine whether her Fifth Amendment claims are legitimate. A favorable ruling for the Morgans could then eventually lead to a deposition in which Anthony would be compelled to answer questions openly and honestly.

    Matt Morgan said Casey Anthony's ongoing appeal in her convictions for lying to law enforcement is expected to be the reason for her refusal to testify Saturday.

    Matt Morgan said he expects Casey Anthony's defense to try to have Saturday's deposition sealed, but that will be challenged by the Morgans as well. They will argue that whatever Anthony says during the deposition is a public record that should be available for public review.

    Morgan said it will be "eventful to see her reaction" to the questions Saturday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretaryGal View Post
    I don't know how to post links here, but I thought I might update this thread anyway.

    FCA is going to be deposed Saturday in the civil case involving ZFG, but she expected to plead the fifth.

    In the Orlando Sentinel online article, Matt Morgan, JFG Attorney says they have to run through the questions anyway and that her expected refusal to provide answers will form the basis for the Morgans to ask the Circuit Judge determine whether her Fifth Amendment claims are legitimate. A favorable ruling for the Morgans could then eventually lead to a deposition in which Anthony would be compelled to answer questions openly and honestly.

    Matt Morgan said Casey Anthony's ongoing appeal in her convictions for lying to law enforcement is expected to be the reason for her refusal to testify Saturday.

    Matt Morgan said he expects Casey Anthony's defense to try to have Saturday's deposition sealed, but that will be challenged by the Morgans as well. They will argue that whatever Anthony says during the deposition is a public record that should be available for public review.

    Morgan said it will be "eventful to see her reaction" to the questions Saturday.
    my bold. finally answers my question as to why morgan & morgan dont simply wait til the appeal is denied. now I get it. they get to irritate her twice. haha!

    I believe she will continue to refuse to answer and allow ZG to win the lawsuit. I bet she is thinking that it doesnt matter since she is already in debt up to her eyeballs but that is foolish - she should think that she may grow the fork up someday and want to have a life.

    all this living in JB or whoemever's basement playing facebook games and horking up taco bell is NOT a long term game plan and it is not infinitely sustainable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2goldfish View Post
    my bold. finally answers my question as to why morgan & morgan dont simply wait til the appeal is denied. now I get it. they get to irritate her twice. haha!

    I believe she will continue to refuse to answer and allow ZG to win the lawsuit. I bet she is thinking that it doesnt matter since she is already in debt up to her eyeballs but that is foolish - she should think that she may grow the fork up someday and want to have a life.

    all this living in JB or whoemever's basement playing facebook games and horking up taco bell is NOT a long term game plan and it is not infinitely sustainable.
    ETA: actually it was SecretaryGal who first posted info from the OS article. Sorry, I am confused today........ anyway, I finally posted the actual link. MOO.
    oops. 2g, I see you already posted snips from an article from today re: depo; I posted link/snips after you. I scrolled through quickly looking for a new link from today, didn't see one, posted link plus the same snippets you did. sorry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2goldfish View Post
    my bold. finally answers my question as to why morgan & morgan dont simply wait til the appeal is denied. now I get it. they get to irritate her twice. haha!

    I believe she will continue to refuse to answer and allow ZG to win the lawsuit. I bet she is thinking that it doesnt matter since she is already in debt up to her eyeballs but that is foolish - she should think that she may grow the fork up someday and want to have a life.

    all this living in JB or whoemever's basement playing facebook games and horking up taco bell is NOT a long term game plan and it is not infinitely sustainable.



    I wonder how long they give probationers to find a job? FCA has none, no schooling yet either. Seems her rehab isn't going so well. Sittin round drinking and pickin her nose doesn't qualify as changing her ways...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretaryGal View Post
    I don't know how to post links here, but I thought I might update this thread anyway.

    FCA is going to be deposed Saturday in the civil case involving ZFG, but she expected to plead the fifth.

    In the Orlando Sentinel online article, Matt Morgan, JFG Attorney says they have to run through the questions anyway and that her expected refusal to provide answers will form the basis for the Morgans to ask the Circuit Judge determine whether her Fifth Amendment claims are legitimate. A favorable ruling for the Morgans could then eventually lead to a deposition in which Anthony would be compelled to answer questions openly and honestly.

    Matt Morgan said Casey Anthony's ongoing appeal in her convictions for lying to law enforcement is expected to be the reason for her refusal to testify Saturday.

    Matt Morgan said he expects Casey Anthony's defense to try to have Saturday's deposition sealed, but that will be challenged by the Morgans as well. They will argue that whatever Anthony says during the deposition is a public record that should be available for public review.

    Morgan said it will be "eventful to see her reaction" to the questions Saturday.



    It will be very interesting to me to hear MM questions...I bet he has some doozys!


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