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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    I think it is possible she didn't realize the cost of a condo and that you need to reserve one ahead of time with a deposit. She probably didn't have much experience in renting travel lodging. JMO
    I think you are right. It's also possible (and compatible with your point) that Maura was like many people who hope that a property owner might discount a unit rather than let it sit vacant--or perhaps she was trying to be smart, not wanting to leave without having an idea of where she might stay or to get i to driving around, looking for a place in the dark. My recollection is that the family had stayed in condos before, so that might have been the "first thought." This part of the mystery seems pretty self-evident and straight-forward. She wanted to go to the mountains and needed a place to stay, so she did some searching and made a few calls.

    Sometimes mysterious cases that have been solved remind us that the clues we have are not all that mysterious. Chandra Levy had googled "Rock Creek Park" and there was all sorts of speculation that she had gone there to meet with Gary Condit, or someone working for him. Turns out she was looking for a place to jog. Wrong place, wrong time. It is likely, in my view, that Maura was just looking for a place to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    I think it is possible she didn't realize the cost of a condo and that you need to reserve one ahead of time with a deposit. She probably didn't have much experience in renting travel lodging. JMO
    Hadn't she stayed there before with her Dad or some place similar? I find it hard to believe she had no clue of the cost. For all we know she could have made the reservations for all their outings.

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    Couple of thoughts:

    -- I'm reading a lot of comments regarding MM's decision-making process immediately after the second accident. The mostly likely truth is that she was significantly impaired by alcohol and perhaps by concussion, which means that logic isn't a very good guide in determining what she was thinking.

    -- I'm also reading about her love of hiking. As one poster noted, mountain climbing in winter is an entirely different matter than hiking in summer. I could understand her desire to take a bottle up on the trail somewhere and end her life, but otherwise the notion that she was intending to hike on this trip seems far-fetched to me. (In some of these areas, you'd have a very difficult time battling your way through even to the foot of the trail, not to mention finding the trail at all.)

    -- I'm guessing that she had at least a tentative plan and destination when she set out, but after a certain amount of alcohol and a few wrong turns, I'm not sure her arrival at the accident scene is a very good indication of her original intent. She may have just been wandering in a fog at that point.

    -- My reading of Renner's blog suggests to me that LE has always known many of the facts that are now emerging, but that they have, perhaps erroneously, concluded that these facts are not important or else have been unable to verify them.
    "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." -- Nietzsche

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    About that bank account

    Thoughts/questions about the tip that Renner published about a MM car loan account being open and current several years after her disappearance:

    Until MM is declared dead or a court intervenes, I assume her accounts would stay open. A court would intervene only if someone (a family member) petitioned for authority to manage her financial affairs until she was found. But a college student might have very few financial affairs -- perhaps only a car loan automatically paid each month out of a checking account. I could imagine that rather than hire a lawyer to petition the court, the father might have decided just to feed the checking account enough to keep the loan current. Could that explain the tip Renner got? That payments were being made long after MM disappeared? Or am I missing something?
    "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." -- Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittsburghgirl View Post
    I think you are right. It's also possible (and compatible with your point) that Maura was like many people who hope that a property owner might discount a unit rather than let it sit vacant--or perhaps she was trying to be smart, not wanting to leave without having an idea of where she might stay or to get i to driving around, looking for a place in the dark. My recollection is that the family had stayed in condos before, so that might have been the "first thought." This part of the mystery seems pretty self-evident and straight-forward. She wanted to go to the mountains and needed a place to stay, so she did some searching and made a few calls.

    Sometimes mysterious cases that have been solved remind us that the clues we have are not all that mysterious. Chandra Levy had googled "Rock Creek Park" and there was all sorts of speculation that she had gone there to meet with Gary Condit, or someone working for him. Turns out she was looking for a place to jog. Wrong place, wrong time. It is likely, in my view, that Maura
    was just looking for a place to stay.
    I think Maura forgot about ski season up there, which can fill rooms. Although, there may have been rooms available on a Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnomony View Post
    Thoughts/questions about the tip that Renner published about a MM car loan account being open and current several years after her disappearance:

    Until MM is declared dead or a court intervenes, I assume her accounts would stay open. A court would intervene only if someone (a family member) petitioned for authority to manage her financial affairs until she was found. But a college student might have very few financial affairs -- perhaps only a car loan automatically paid each month out of a checking account. I could imagine that rather than hire a lawyer to petition the court, the father might have decided just to feed the checking account enough to keep the loan current. Could that explain the tip Renner got? That payments were being made long after MM disappeared? Or am I missing something?
    The thought has crossed my mind as well. The only problem I have with it is what car were they paying off? Was it the Saturn? This also makes me ask if she didn't own the Saturn that long before it started to have engine problems. Could it have been a 4 year loan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemag View Post
    Hadn't she stayed there before with her Dad or some place similar? I find it hard to believe she had no clue of the cost. For all we know she could have made the reservations for all their outings.
    It is possible Maura's father never discussed the cost to his kids. Kids sometimes underestimate the cost of things, until they have to pay for it themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    It is possible Maura's father never discussed the cost to his kids. Kids sometimes underestimate the cost of things, until they have to pay for it themselves.
    http://www.seasonsnh.com/rates.html

    The rates to the rooms are clearly listed on the sight she was on. It is not logical to assume that she didn't know the rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    The thought has crossed my mind as well. The only problem I have with it is what car were they paying off? Was it the Saturn? This also makes me ask if she didn't own the Saturn that long before it started to have engine problems. Could it have been a 4 year loan?
    This is a little bit of assuming, but it's doubtful that the Saturn was in Mauara's name. Since her dad would have been the co-signer he would have come up on the loan as primary holder of the loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemag View Post
    This is a little bit of assuming, but it's doubtful that the Saturn was in Mauara's name. Since her dad would have been the co-signer he would have come up on the loan as primary holder of the loan.
    The Saturn was registered in the name of Maura's father. That is why when police first ran the car's info, they came up with Fred's name and not Maura's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scoops View Post
    The Saturn was registered in the name of Maura's father. That is why when police first ran the car's info, they came up with Fred's name and not Maura's.
    Thanks Scoops, yeah I remember now becaues there was something about LE not informing Fred soon enough being that he was the owner of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemag View Post
    This is a little bit of assuming, but it's doubtful that the Saturn was in Mauara's name. Since her dad would have been the co-signer he would have come up on the loan as primary holder of the loan.
    I was only trying to figure what car they have been paying off to rule out that it was an older loan made prior to her disappearance. It was probably not the Saturn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoops View Post
    The Saturn was registered in the name of Maura's father. That is why when police first ran the car's info, they came up with Fred's name and not Maura's.
    If Fred co-signed wouldn't her name be on the loan too? I haven't done one of those in years, so I forgot how it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoops View Post
    The Saturn was registered in the name of Maura's father. That is why when police first ran the car's info, they came up with Fred's name and not Maura's.
    Quote Originally Posted by telemag View Post
    http://www.seasonsnh.com/rates.html

    The rates to the rooms are clearly listed on the sight she was on. It is not logical to assume that she didn't know the rates.
    Good point, but maybe she didn't look at the rates. She just got the phone number and called. To me, it seemed like she was hurrying around that day. Yet, maybe she was going to use a credit card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemag View Post
    http://www.seasonsnh.com/rates.html

    The rates to the rooms are clearly listed on the sight she was on. It is not logical to assume that she didn't know the rates.
    The rates may not have been listed when she looked at the website 8 years ago. The internet has changed since then.

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