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    Quote Originally Posted by tambo View Post
    it was just an idea. But I also think that being such a small town, and there was what 9 kids in her grade, 85 kids in the whole school, i'm going to take a wild guess and say that they all hung around with kids that were different ages, she probably had friends that were older and younger. Who knows maybe the a bunch of the kids got together for a little party, or whatever before school started up again. I can see kids panicking.

    But again, i'm not saying thats what happened, just a thought, because i'm not convinced that a family member or person in the house did this...as for the cars and searching the house, i would expcet that regardless..I just think the computer will tell alot more.


    The computer was taken, the first day she went missing.
    I myself don't think they found anything on it that showed she was planning on leaving that house to party, or the investigation would have gone in a different direction.
    I would be very surprised if CC was doing any on line chatting, posing as an 18 or 20 year old, I saw her postings on FB while it was open, and they were nothing more than that of an innocent 11 year old. I could be wrong on this, but I will be very surprised if I am.
    After her body was discovered, they taped off that house and impounded WN's truck, something found after the recovery, sent them straight back to that house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo in Calif View Post
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    The computer was taken, the first day she went missing.
    I myself don't think they found anything on it that showed she was planning on leaving that house to party, or the investigation would have gone in a different direction.
    I would be very surprised if CC was doing any on line chatting, posing as an 18 or 20 year old, I saw her postings on FB while it was open, and they were nothing more than that of an innocent 11 year old. I could be wrong on this, but I will be very surprised if I am.
    After her body was discovered, they taped off that house and impounded WN's truck, something found after the recovery, sent them straight back to that house.
    I was thinking more like AIM or the facebook chat, i know thats what all the kids around here use. they post a few things on facebook, not much, mostly just use the instant chat...i wasn't meaning that she was chatting with strangers at all...just with friends...thats how i use facebook too..I was also thinking that they used that app alot because of the lack of cell reception there...

    i don't know how long it would take to retrive those conversations if they were deleted,

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    Quote Originally Posted by tambo View Post
    I was thinking more like AIM or the facebook chat, i know thats what all the kids around here use. they post a few things on facebook, not much, mostly just use the instant chat...i wasn't meaning that she was chatting with strangers at all...just with friends...thats how i use facebook too..I was also thinking that they used that app alot because of the lack of cell reception there...

    i don't know how long it would take to retrive those conversations if they were deleted,
    Also, I never said ANYTHING about her posing as an 18 or 20 year old...would have never entered my mind...I guess i should have made it more clear that i was ref. to AIM and facebook chat....

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    I found the image and it links to here and the link is gone now (????) It looks like a station wagon, dark and not sure if it's green but it has tape on it and the white/silver truck is in the background with the two garbage cans (one red can and one green can). LE is taking downwards photos of the cab of the silver truck.

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    I attached the image I hope. It looked like a van to me because of the squared off back end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    I found the image and it links to here and the link is gone now (????) It looks like a station wagon, dark and not sure if it's green but it has tape on it and the white/silver truck is in the background with the two garbage cans (one red can and one green can). LE is taking downwards photos of the cab of the silver truck.

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    I attached the image I hope. It looked like a van to me because of the squared off back end.
    I think Donjeta may have posted that attachement, IDK. I think it is a screenshot from the middle video link on this page
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/celina-cass...ry?id=14225315

    As far as I can tell, it may be just being used as a wall - in other words, the whole area around the silver truck is taped off and the minivan is being used to run the crime scene tape around.
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    Just checking on the case here. I was wondering if any of you know if cadaver dogs were used near the house, in the house, around the vehicles or anywhere on this case. TIA

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    This has probably been discussed, but I'm curious if we know why KM was in prison and for how long?

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    According to this article it sounds like AL was taken back to the hospital because of some sort of heart related episode. It is kind of confusing so I am not sure if it happened yesterday or today. Or if it is referring to an old attack. Ariticle is dated 8/7.
    My prayers are for the innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief View Post
    This has probably been discussed, but I'm curious if we know why KM was in prison and for how long?
    In 2007, he pleaded guilty to six counts of theft by taking (cars) and one count of burglary.
    I think IIRC he was sentenced to 1.5 to 3 years in prison plus 6 months consecutive in jail
    but don't quote me on the sentence. And I do not know when and how long he served his sentence.
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    I wonder who this is, is it someone we've been trying to find? (the young guy hugging the woman)
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/...67002201_0.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by mck16 View Post
    www.timewireservice.com

    According to this article it sounds like AL was taken back to the hospital because of some sort of heart related episode. It is kind of confusing so I am not sure if it happened yesterday or today. Or if it is referring to an old attack. Ariticle is dated 8/7.
    The link isn't working for me... anyone else?

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    Dogs were used in the search, but not sure about in or around the house. I didn't read anything that stated they used them there anyway.

    I am searching to see if I can find anything about that. I got a little sidetracked with a story about a glow in the dark dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by peace9274 View Post
    The link isn't working for me... anyone else?
    Me either

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    Quote Originally Posted by tambo View Post
    i'm not convinced that she didn't sneak out with friends, kids do that all the time, and their parents don't know. I would be interested in who she was chatting with online, maybe, and just a maybe some of them decided to sneak out and just hang out together for awhile down by the water, everybody bring a blanket or something to sit on, and then maybe something happened, an accident...kids panic, don't want to get in trouble for being out...so they wrap her in a blanket and put her in the water...i'm not saying thats what happened but it is a possibility, wouldn't make her a bad girl or anything, just normal kid stuff...

    i'm just not convinced that someone in her family did something to her.

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    jmo I am not convinced either and have not been from the beginning. Can any sleuths located in the northern tier of N.H. shed any light on the missing females who disappeared without a trace over the past few years. I can think of four but cannot remember names. Back in the late sixties and 70's there was a serial killer who took our women, mainly connected with hospitals.
    Never found him he disappeared off the radar probably went to prison for another crime or moved on. I really feel there is a new dude lurking around up north. May have no connection to the Celina case but watch your back ladies. If you must travel alone lock and load! skier

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    These are the facts of this case which fascinates me.

    Celine's sister was not at home that night.

    The neighbor called 911 to report Celina missing.

    The bio father was notified of his daughter's disappearance by a phone call from the FBI.

    The Step Father was the last to see Celina.

    When interviewed the SF said.. "Get your a** home.

    Neither the mother nor the step father have said much else.

    The Bio Father's family has been coming out to the press.

    Celina's body was wrapped in a blanket, near a damn that connects the towns of Canaan VT (SF Birthplace) and Stewartstown NH (SF current address)

    Stepfather checked into motel with sister, not wife.

    Stepfather was taken to the hospital on the day CC body was found

    Stepfather committed himself to a mental hospital.

    Stepfather was not able to go to trial due to mental incompetency for charges he stalked and was abusive to his ex-girlfriend.

    No update has been given on SF condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmomom View Post
    I wonder who this is, is it someone we've been trying to find? (the young guy hugging the woman)
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/...67002201_0.jpg
    Thought this was NN, but maybe not

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgayle View Post
    These are the facts of this case which fascinates me.

    Celine's sister was not at home that night.

    The neighbor called 911 to report Celina missing.

    The bio father was notified of his daughter's disappearance by a phone call from the FBI.

    IIRC, Bio dad said he saw that she was missing on TV.
    And that he was notified of her body found by a phone call from FBI.

    The Step Father was the last to see Celina.

    I have heard/seen reports that members of the family were last to see her.
    And that mom watched a movie with her, night before.

    When interviewed the SF said.. "Get your a** home.

    SF said: "Get your butt home."

    Neither the mother nor the step father have said much else.

    The Bio Father's family has been coming out to the press.

    Celina's body was wrapped in a blanket, near a damn that connects the towns of Canaan VT (SF Birthplace) and Stewartstown NH (SF current address)

    Stepfather checked into motel with sister, not wife.

    Stepfather was taken to the hospital on the day CC body was found

    Stepfather committed himself to a mental hospital.

    Stepfather was not able to go to trial due to mental incompetency for charges he stalked and was abusive to his ex-girlfriend.

    No update has been given on SF condition.

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    I just found this photo from eagletribune.com and the link doesn't work anymore (?????). Sorry it's so small.

    It looks like a van:truck or van.jpg

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    Just to add to your list:
    I think it has been changed to MOM was last to see Celina.
    Also hinky to me is the ground search stopped and went to the water after MOM was
    interagated at police station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SondraK View Post
    Thought this was NN, but maybe not
    Could be. Kinda looks like him, from what I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peace9274 View Post
    Could be. Kinda looks like him, from what I can see.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/...67002201_0.jpg
    Click on the picture to enlarge. Looks like he has some sort of long beard? Did NN in the interview I will have to go check. Also, I thought this one looks a little shorter and heavier than I remember NN.

    Here's a better link to the Mr Guy that is around LCN a lot helping her that we thought was WN and is not. Click on the picture to do close up. (Al, Jr in the background) Good looking guy. Wondering if he's related to LCN.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/...67000f2a_2.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by peace9274 View Post
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    Perhaps it was butt... but I definately saw where he said he was called by the FBI regarding her missing.. wish I could remember where it was said.

    Haven't heard the movie thing.. thanks..

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    Forgive me while I obsess.
    These are not the same people. Ears are off, the circle under the eye is different, and I truly believe that the person in the second picture has a long chin beard (look under his hand)
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    In any photos of anyone, does anyone see any scratchs? bruises? I have been looking.
    Anyone wearing long sleeves in this weather?
    Just wondering..........
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    sorry, I'd have to go back & wade through MSM, but LN was with LE at least 2 hours one time...and then I recall reading she was with them for another spiel. All before CC was found...
    Does anyone else recall 2 different times being mentioned?

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