Almost every person who is missing probably had someone commit the "perfect crime"...whether they are smart, stupid, or just lucky. I don't think it is as hard to get rid of a body where it won't be found as we would like to think. Sometimes they are eventually found, and sometimes, they never are. Sometimes they are found years later, in an area that was already searched, i.e. Molly Bish. They just don't take up that much space...
Just my opinion, of course.
FWIW I was talking to a small group of locals who stay informed. They all believe she ODed and the boy(s) hid her. A veteran big city cop who is following the case says: It's an extremely difficult case. Nothing is cut and dry.
I think eventually someone will talk if, that is the case. These are college kids not roughnecks running the streets. Someone will have an attack of conscience and speak out. It might be after college or years later but I believe someone will. jmo
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I can't help but feel that the likelihood of this case is she never will be found. But that doesn't mean their won't be a prosecution.
had LE done the basics and checked dumpsters, abandoned buildings, storm drains and the like from the outset we would not be having this conversation.
instead LE focused on the students (and I mean more than just some basic questioning) because they assumed or did not want to believe this was done by a stranger. so of course the students backed off.
I would hope they would have checked the dumpsters any way in case there were boiy fluids. even with that some degrade with time so all that grandstanding got them nowhere.
Throwing bodies in a dumpster definitely has a lot of risks, but people still do it and somehow get away with it. It isn't impossible or unfathomable to me that something like that happened-literally, someone got lucky and not necessarily with the work of a perfect criminal mastermind plot. Sometimes, LE just cannot confirm the location of a body. It sucks, but it happens.
If I were to criticize them for something it would be not being more aggressive about the dumpsters and landfills. I definitely agree that that left an unfortunate gap in the investigation. At this moment, I am not feeling like they were wrong to suspect and try to clear the pack of men that surrounded her the entire night, however.
I don't know if I dreamt this last night or read it upthread but it matches the very first rumor I heard in week one, which is that "they threw her out" meaning from 5 North. If this is true it would explain JR's lie and it would point more to abduction by friend or foe.
This brings me to the 3:38 a.m. carrier, who may or may not have been AB. If it was I wonder if the DD was at AB and ZO apartment when he returned with LS.
For me, the last confirmed sighting of LS, if LE is being honest and straight-up, is at 2:51 on the video as she exits the alley. Anything after that is fair game and open for discussion.
Just my opinion, of course.
I had high hopes a few weeks ago when the the Spierer's said they were "pleased" with how LE was handling the case. I realize this statement was mainly to quiet the possibility of a protest in front of of LE but for some reason I had the impression that there was progress or news. That may still be true. I hope this long stretch of silence does not portend the future.
I guess my word choice was incorrect, but I do think LE would be stupid NOT to look at the pack of men (some near strangers) that surrounded her that night. I won't critique them for searching apartments, getting statements, etc. I don't think they completely rejected other options either. They seemed to be considering random abduction at various times (silver truck, interviewing random witnesses or people on the street, etc).
I don't know-I just don't feel like they have been massively incompetent here. The family also seems extremely supportive of them-much more than other cases where family has literally broken from LE. The only thing that has seemed off to me about this whole thing is the slow or possibly incomplete or not even done searches of dumpsters and landfills.
I have always doubted the 430 time, but doubting the 430 time makes me doubt JR. I personally cannot come up with a scenario that would lead JR to make lie after lie about that night with Lauren, except still remain completely innocent and ignorant of what happened to her that night. Even if he kicked her out, I cannot see him randomly lying in ways that could be easily proven incorrect.
Can someone remind me why LE hasn't searched the landfill?
"I believe in the sun even when it isn't shining. I believe in love, even when I am alone, I believe in God, even when He is silent.
Always curious posted a scenario yesterday how HT could have fed JR his answers.