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    NJ - Hamilton, WhtMale UP8982, 35-56, plaid pajamas, bandaged lower legs, Jul'11

    https://identifyus.org/cases/8982

    This is a 35-56 year old white male who was found in a wooded area next to Route 295 in Hamilton, Mercer County New Jersey. He was partially skeletonized/mummified, about 69 inches.
    He had grey facial hair and bandages wrapped around his lower legs.

    Clothing on body:
    Checkered plaid pajama bottoms - navy, white, red.
    T-shirt.
    Socks - white.
    Underwear.

    Found with body:
    Pin striped blue and white shirt.

    Blue hospital type therapeutic sandal with two velcro straps.
    Watch with black leather band with red face.
    One yellow metal ring with a leaf or flower design.
    Two BIC disposable lighters
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-16-2013 at 11:25 PM.

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    The sandal might be something similar to this, apparently called a "deluxe cast sandal." There are also cast boots and shoes that fit more like boots and shoes, respectively.

    http://www.healthcarenwellness.com/p...0Thumbnail.jpg

    http://images.google.com/search?tbm=...1l2.2.5.1l10l0

    The Wikipedia entry on "orthopedic cast" says: "Similarly, a cast shoe/cast boot/cast sandal may be provided to the patient to be utilized during ambulation of the immobilized limb during convalescence (referred to as being weight bearing). Additionally, a castshoe may be used to simply protect the patients casted foot while helping to maintain a higher degree of hygiene preventing the cast from directly contacting potentially dirty or wet ground surfaces."

    But our John Doe had only bandages on his lower legs; there is no mention of a cast. Can anyone with medical experience explain why someone might have had his legs bandaged and been given a cast sandal for one foot? Do we have any missing men who had recently been released from a hospital?
    <-- Watched one too many Hanna-Barbera "teenage detective" cartoons as a kid.

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    There are photos of his personal effects and a reconstruction available on Namus now.

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    Judging by his outfit and the bandages, it seems like he wandered off (or was "helped") from a hospital/rehab center/nursing home.
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    per the NJ State Police's website where the UID was found "is frequented by homeless individuals and transients". not to minimize their existence, but it is a tough demographic to match.

    http://www.njsp.org/miss/ui_mercer_u260026093.html

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    Gold ring and designer watch, though.
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    it would help if the sources got their information on the same page.

    Namus just says yellow metal ring and watch while the State's website says gold ring and a designer watch.

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    I found an article on a man missing from CT
    http://www.wfsb.com/story/15292454/w...or-missing-man

    WATERTOWN, CT (WFSB) -

    Watertown police are searching for a 50-year-old man who has been missing since April.

    Police said David Van Wagner last told his family he was heading to Atlantic City, NJ.

    He doesn't have a car and he might homeless. Police said he is known to frequent casinos.

    If you have any information concerning Wagner's whereabouts contact Watertown police at 860-945-5200.
    nampn.org doesn't have any more information:
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/van_wagner_david.html

    I can't find much else on this guy but a possible?

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    Does anyone know what kind of bandages they were? ex. Ace bandages, Gauze Bandages, Adhesive bandages....
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    Tammie McCormick, 13, missing since 1986 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=128676

    Jaliek Rainwalker, 12, missing since 2007 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55811

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot View Post
    The sandal might be something similar to this, apparently called a "deluxe cast sandal." There are also cast boots and shoes that fit more like boots and shoes, respectively.

    http://www.healthcarenwellness.com/p...0Thumbnail.jpg

    http://images.google.com/search?tbm=...1l2.2.5.1l10l0

    The Wikipedia entry on "orthopedic cast" says: "Similarly, a cast shoe/cast boot/cast sandal may be provided to the patient to be utilized during ambulation of the immobilized limb during convalescence (referred to as being weight bearing). Additionally, a castshoe may be used to simply protect the patients casted foot while helping to maintain a higher degree of hygiene preventing the cast from directly contacting potentially dirty or wet ground surfaces."

    But our John Doe had only bandages on his lower legs; there is no mention of a cast. Can anyone with medical experience explain why someone might have had his legs bandaged and been given a cast sandal for one foot? Do we have any missing men who had recently been released from a hospital?
    Are they bandages, as in like ACE bandages? Gauze? I know that when you have been through a surgery, or are immobile for a long period of time they use wraps to keep blood clots from forming in your lungs. So if he had hurt his foot, and was told to stay off it, some docs might have those to be on the safe side.


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    What about Robert Wiltsie? He was last seen at a hospital even though it is quite a distance away...

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12487/0/
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    Tammie McCormick, 13, missing since 1986 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=128676

    Jaliek Rainwalker, 12, missing since 2007 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55811

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    What about Robert Wiltsie? He was last seen at a hospital even though it is quite a distance away...

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12487/0/
    Pretty close. Any idea how to put the images side by side?

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    Could you tell if a mumified body had tattoos? I'm not sure how long it takes for a body to mumify either?


    David Hudson last seen at a VA hospital on 7/11/2011 so not sure if that would be enough time?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11702/0/
    Last edited by Wanting2Help; 08-23-2012 at 02:00 PM. Reason: added
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    Tammie McCormick, 13, missing since 1986 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=128676

    Jaliek Rainwalker, 12, missing since 2007 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55811

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    Tammie McCormick, 13, missing since 1986 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=128676

    Jaliek Rainwalker, 12, missing since 2007 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55811

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    Could you tell if a mumified body had tattoos? I'm not sure how long it takes for a body to mumify either?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11702/0/
    I guess it depends on the circumstances. If your skin mummifies, most likely you should see the tat, although not clearly. I could be wrong tho too.

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