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    Hi-Tec sneakers or boots?

    I just noticed something due to a link brought up on another thread.

    Wasn't the Hi-Tec print said to be a bootprint??? Yet here is spinmeister Wood implying it was a sneaker print!!

    From FFJ (thanks Tricia for reposting it!):
    Charlie Brennan, Rocky Mountain NewsAugust 22, 2002 BOULDER -

    Investigators have answered two vexing questions in the JonBenet Ramsey case that have long helped support the theory that an intruder killed her, according to sources Ramsey evidence is explained Hand, boot prints determined to be innocent occurrences close to the case. The answers, which have been known to investigators for some time but never publicly revealed, could be seen to weaken the intruder theory.

    The two clues are:

    A mysterious Hi-Tec boot print in the mold on the floor of the Ramseys' wine cellar near JonBenet's body has been linked by investigators to Burke, her brother, who was 9 at the time. It is believed to have been left there under circumstances unrelated to JonBenet's murder.

    Burke, now 15, has repeatedly been cleared by authorities of any suspicion in the 1996 Christmas night slaying, and that has not changed.

    A palm print on the door leading to that same wine cellar, long unidentified, is that of Melinda Ramsey, JonBenet's adult half-sister. She was in Georgia at the time of the murder.

    "They were certainly some things that had to be answered, one way or the other, and we feel satisfied that they are both answered," said a source close to the case, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    L. Lin Wood, the attorney representing the Ramseys, who now live in Atlanta, doesn't debate the palm print findings. But he contends the police have not answered the Hi-Tec print mystery.

    Oh what a stupid statement there Woody-boy...your "student" has learned well...

    From the Atlanta interviews it is obvious that Burke Ramsey told the Grand Jury that he indeed did own a pair of Hi Tec shoes/boots.

    From the Atlanta Interviews. Mr. Levin for the United States. Mr.Wood for the Ramseys. This exchange is with Mr. Levin, Patsy Ramsey, and Lin Wood.

    23 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Did you try, in
    24 your mind, and perhaps to assist your
    25 investigator, identify sources close to your
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    1 family that might be the origin of the
    2 Hi-Tec shoe impression?
    3 A. I think, you know, I may have
    4 asked Susan if she had ever seen any. I
    5 mean, I didn't, I don't know what a Hi-Tec
    6 boot looks like, per se. I have tried to
    7 kind of, as I am in shoe stores, look around
    8 trying to see what, what's the significance
    9 and special about a Hi-Tec boot, and I
    10 haven't, haven't even seen any yet. But I
    11 may have asked Susan, did you know anybody
    12 that looked like they wore Hi-Tec shoe,
    13 boots, or whatever.
    14 Q. Do you recall a period of time,
    15 prior to 1996, when your son Burke purchased
    16 a pair of hiking boots that had compasses on
    17 the shoelaces? And if it helps to
    18 remember --
    19 A. I can't remember.
    20 Q. Maybe this will help your
    21 recollection. They were shoes that were
    22 purchased while he was shopping with you in
    23 Atlanta.
    24 MR. WOOD: Are you stating that
    25 as a fact?
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    1 MR. LEVIN: I am stating that as
    2 a fact.
    3 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Does that help
    4 refresh your recollection as to whether he
    5 owned a pair of shoes that had compasses on
    6 them?
    7 A. I just can't remember. Bought so
    8 many shoes for him.
    9 Q. And again, I will provide, I'll
    10 say, I'll say this as a fact to you, that,
    11 and maybe this will help refresh your
    12 recollection, he thought that -- the shoes
    13 were special because they had a compass on
    14 them, his only exposure for the most part to
    15 compasses had been in the plane and he kind
    16 of liked the idea of being able to point
    17 them different directions. Do you remember
    18 him doing that with the shoes?
    19 A. I can't remember the shoes. I
    20 remember he had a compass thing like a
    21 watch, but I can't remember about the shoes.
    22 Q. You don't remember him having
    23 shoes that you purchased with compasses on
    24 them?
    25 MR. WOOD: She will tell you that
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    1 one more time. Go ahead and tell him, and
    2 this will be the third time.
    3 THE WITNESS: I can't remember.
    4 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Okay. Does it
    5 jog your memory to know that the shoes with
    6 compasses were made by Hi-Tec?
    7 MR. WOOD: Are you stating that
    8 as a fact?
    9 MR. LEVIN: Yes. I am stating
    10 that as a fact.
    11 THE WITNESS: No, I didn't know
    12 that.
    13 Q. (By Mr. Levin) I will state this
    14 as a fact. There are two people who have
    15 provided us with information, including your
    16 son, that he owned Hi-Tec shoes prior to the
    17 murder of your daughter.
    18 MR. WOOD: You are stating that
    19 Burke Ramsey has told you he owned Hi-Tec
    20 shoes?
    21 MR. LEVIN: Yes.
    22 MR. WOOD: He used the phrase
    23 Hi-Tec?
    24 MR. LEVIN: Yes.
    25 MR. WOOD: When?
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    1 MR. LEVIN: I can't, I can't give
    2 you the source. I can tell you that I have
    3 that information.

    4 MR. WOOD: You said Burke told
    5 you.
    6 MR. LEVIN: I can't quote it to
    7 you for reasons I am sure, as an attorney,
    8 you are aware.
    9 MR. WOOD: Just so it is clear,
    10 there is a difference between you saying that
    11 somebody said Burke told them and Burke
    12 telling you because Burke has been
    13 interviewed by you all December of 1996,
    14 January of 1997, June of 1998.
    15 Are you saying that it is within
    16 those interviews?
    17 MR. LEVIN: No.
    [B]18 MR. WOOD: So he didn't tell you,
    19 he told somebody else you are stating as a
    20 fact because I don't think you all have
    21 talked to him other than those occasions,
    22 have you?
    23 MR. KANE: Mr. Wood, we don't
    24 want to get into grand jury information.
    25 Okay?
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    1 MR. WOOD: Okay.
    2 MR. KANE: Fair enough?
    3 MR. LEVIN: I am sorry, I should
    4 have been more direct. I thought you would
    5 understand --

    LMAO! Wood tried to imply that the info about Burke's Hi-Tec boots was hearsay!
    Burke testified for 5 hours!!! I'd be very interested to know just what some boy who "slept through it all" could possibly testify about for 5 whole hours...

    So which is it folks? Boot prints or sneaker prints?


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    I have never seen Hi-Tec shoes for kids. I have never Hi-Tec shoes with a compass built in. They may be out there but I have never found them.


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    Sorry, but I don't buy it.
    It was stated as a fact that John Ramsey went out for mail ,and until Linda Arndt's deposition we believed it. She said herself that her report was "misunderstood", I bet a lot of this "factual" information is as "sketchy".
    IMO no child knows the brand of shoes he wore at age 8, but if asked, "they sure were hi-tec..with compasses and all, a child will say..YEP" . Now try to say he wore an adult size ten, because Helgoth's were too small, Burke's children's shoe sure should match??
    If any of this were credible do you think Keenan would agree that an intruder likely killed Jonbenet, or Carnes the same? Or do you just think smart women are unreliable? IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine
    I have never seen Hi-Tec shoes for kids. I have never Hi-Tec shoes with a compass built in. They may be out there but I have never found them.
    They do , I believe have kids shoes, but the logo on the bottom for the sneakers I believe is different than the hiking soles. They make them for women as well, (in case anyone is wondering about the elf)


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    Sissi

    I really believe this shoe arguement is a waste of time! LE saw the logo in the mold in the room JBR was found in. They never mentioned that it looked like a child size print.


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    jamsime, They didn't know what size the shoe print was because it was incomplete. I also provided a link to Hi-Tec's website where they list (mostly tennis type) shoes for women, men, and children.

    sissi, I would imagine that if a child like Burke knew what a ROLEX was then he would have paid enough attention to brand names to know what type of boots or shoes he owned. Esp ones that were as unique as the ones he apparently told the Grand Jury he had! Kids are VERY aware of brand names...

    Lin Wood has never said anything more about the Hi-Tec shoes or boots that Burke had. He hasn't denied Burke owned them after that deposition became public....

    I don't believe Linda Arndt ever said John went out to get the mail, she simply stated she saw him going through some mail...she never specified (that I have seen) how he got it. Remeber she didn't know where he was, he was simply not within her view.


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    One year my son bought all of us shoes for Christmas, they were Salvatore Ferragamo's, and my, then, 12 yr old daughter thought they were ugly, however given a bit of information ....like the rolex..she then appreciated that she had the most expensive shoes on the block. Yes kids can name brand names, one's that impress them, but wearing hi-tecs is much like buying cherokees, nothing there to impress and nothing to remember. IMO


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    Do any of the Hi-Tec brand boots have a compass?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine
    Do any of the Hi-Tec brand boots have a compass?
    I've never seen that, however I have seen shoes with compartments for carrying such items. I don't know which brands have these but ya' know I will go look:-)


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    From the interviews it does sound like Hi-Tec made shoes/boots with a compass on the shoelaces. I wonder if Burke was thinking of High Tech shoes/boots because they had a compass. Investigators never found any shoes in the house that matched the boot print.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker
    Burke, now 15, has repeatedly been cleared by authorities of any suspicion in the 1996 Christmas night slaying, and that has not changed.

    Seeker.

    Sorry, but Burke has NEVER been cleared by the authorities. Neither Alex Hunter, nor Mary Keenan, nor Mark Beckner, nor any judge, nor anyone else of authority, has cleared Burke Ramsey in the slaying of JonBenet.

    Please provide your source who says Burke has been cleared. Thanks.

    JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCrab
    Seeker.

    Sorry, but Burke has NEVER been cleared by the authorities. Neither Alex Hunter, nor Mary Keenan, nor Mark Beckner, nor any judge, nor anyone else of authority, has cleared Burke Ramsey in the slaying of JonBenet.

    Please provide your source who says Burke has been cleared. Thanks.

    JMO
    Blue, perhaps you'd like to try reading that post again...

    Those weren't my words.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker
    Blue, perhaps you'd like to try reading that post again...

    Those weren't my words.

    Seeker,

    You are right. I'm sorry. You were quoting Charlie Brennan, and not making that statement yourself about Burke supposedly being cleared.

    It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent people, such as news reporters, defense attorneys, etc., have unwittingly translated Hunter's fraudulent affidavit stating that "Burke is a witness and not a suspect" into meaning "Burke has been cleared". They don't dig deep enough to realize there are no official suspects in the Ramsey case (because of the threat of a lawsuit) and the word "witness" really means "suspect". Neither Hunter, nor Keenan, nor anyone else of authority has ever cleared Burke.

    My apologies again Seeker, and I take back all those bad things I've been spreading around about you. (JK)

    JMO


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    Burke doesn't need to be cleared because it is ridiculous to consider him to be involved in the death.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMoon
    Burke doesn't need to be cleared because it is ridiculous to consider him to be involved in the death.

    BrotherMoon,

    Fantastic! And what is your published source for this exculpatory item of evidence in favor of Burke?

    JMO


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