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    Travel Insurance - GG cashing in. GG asked if it could be used to aid in her search.
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
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    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    I would agree. If we discard her story, there doesn't seem to be anything else connecting GVG to the porn industry. We know he filmed and photographed himself having sex with women, but unless the FBI or Aruban authorities make some electronic connections between GVG and selling porn, I think for now it's safe to assume that he used his computer science degree to make money.
    I don't know much about porn but the little bit I have seen is nice body males and females, not the likes of Gary G. I tend to think his surrupticious videos were for his own personal use, certainly not something he hoped to sell as a porn video. Maybe in the underground world of porn, his being attractive or not was not important, who knows?
    I think it was just an icky porn (showing 'organs')??? made by an icky man. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    It was the boyfriend that claimed Robyn would never get into the water, but who also claimed that she was a strong swimmer. Both can't be true. If she is indeed a strong swimmer, I'm sure her mother has cleared that up. If she's a strong swimmer, then I think it's more likely that she went snorkeling with him and it's also quite possible that they were unaware of the riptides in the area.
    Her boyfriend said she was a strong swimmer BUT she would have not wanted to get in water because she had hair extensions and would not want to ruin her make-up.
    She sounds very vain to me. IIRC her best friend, who has a hair salon in Frederick, said the same thing- she wouldn't have wanted to get her hair wet or ruin her make up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overanalyst View Post
    Don't forget "paid assignments only", also.

    Sounds to me like Aruba was the place she wanted to be..."on assignment" for photoshoot but once there finds her photographer wants more than just pics. Plus she was unemployed so maybe agreed to go to Aruba b/c she needed the money? She describes on her profile as having her pics taken by "an aspiring photographer"- was that Gary G.?

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    In Thread #1, we were discussing possible interpretations of the text message she supposedly sent: "the 16"

    (wasn't this is response to her boyfriend's question: Where r u baby?)

    Someone said that it was pretty much confirmed that it meant her return date. I mentioned I had thought of that; however, I did not think the trip was scheduled for that length of time.

    In this article, GG and RG were scheduled to be there for for only 5 days.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...0094961.shtml:

    The two arrived on the island July 31 for a five-day getaway, after meeting online.


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    I thought the 16 was in reply to his Where are you baby question but a poster pointed out that he asked that after she sent the 16


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    Quote Originally Posted by HatesSociopaths View Post
    By the way does anyone know what it means to be "digitally choked?"
    Dunno if anyone else answered this as I am reading the thread and posting as I go along...but "digitally choked" refers to being choked by someone using their hands only (as opposed to a cord or other choking device being used) Digits are fingers, remember.

    sorry if this is posted downthread. MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by concentric View Post
    In Thread #1, we were discussing possible interpretations of the text message she supposedly sent: "the 16"

    (wasn't this is response to her boyfriend's question: Where r u baby?)

    Someone said that it was pretty much confirmed that it meant her return date. I mentioned I had thought of that; however, I did not think the trip was scheduled for that length of time.

    In this article, GG and RG were scheduled to be there for for only 5 days.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...0094961.shtml:

    The two arrived on the island July 31 for a five-day getaway, after meeting online.
    I think the 16 response was before the 'where are u' question. When RF responded that it was to a previous question about a date, I assumed it wasn't the return date but something altogether different. MOO
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    Thanks Dushi for clarifying that.

    OK, so the "where r u baby" is on Sat. the 6th, I guess.

    Here is the link showing the messages, as so kindly posted by members on Thread #1,
    "the 16. I can communictate here." is on August 1.


    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=864&sid=2489190#counter

    "the 16. I can communictate here."
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    So, if that is her return date to where the boyfriend is, it has to mean that she was planning on staying somewhere else until the 16th? Because her return date from Aruba should have been, around August 5. Is that why the boyfriend texts on August 6, "where r u baby"?

    So is "16" a typo meant to be "6"?


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    You don't know that they refer to two separate incidents (unless you somehow know the name of the person making the complaint in the second case). The both sound like the same incident. There is a difference in dates, but note that the dates in the second incident refer to when the report and subsequent complaint was made. That is not when the alleged assault took place, which presumably was earlier, possibly much earlier. Also, the report in the second incident was used to get a search warrant to look for video, and possibly video of other victims. If he had hidden cameras recording this stuff then the victim would not have known about it, unless she had been made aware of it subsequently. So, how would that happen? That would be consistent with the first report which also talks about video, and and implied threat to distribute it. That is why I think that both of these reports refer to the same incident.

    There are other things that look odd. For example, the page you transcribed talks about drinking wine and talking, then suddenly they are standing next to his bed where he allegedly attacks her. How did they get from one to the other? No one I know drinks wine and socializes in the bedroom. That doesnt make sense.

    Like I said before, I think this is the same incident and the purpose of the complaint was to get the video out of his hands.

    Once they had the video they would have proceeded with charges. They don't need the cooperation of the victim in a criminal case if they have other evidence, and video of an attack would certainly fit the bill in that regard. Once a complaint has been made in a criminal matter it can't be withdrawn like a civil complaint, the case will only be dropped if there is insufficient evidence.

    The devil is in the details my friend.
    This the second response to this post because the first one can't be edited. The first response is incorrect. Thanks for clarifying this point. The confusion occurred because there was a second woman who filed for a Protection Order in April of 2010 so that report made it appear that she was one and the same as the woman who wrote the sexual assault report in April of 2010, but in fact that was the woman (VP) who filed the Protection Order in Feb of 2010.

    Regarding the point of why the case was dropped, according to the State Attorney, he dropped the case because the victim did not want to pursue charges and he respected her wishes. What is odd to me is that there was a video of the event and thus it would seem evidence of a sexual offense. You mention the case would have been dropped only if there is insufficient evidence, so why was the video not considered sufficient?

    This is from Maryland website on sex offenses.

    WHAT DO THE OFFENDERS’ CRIMES MEAN IN PLAIN LANGUAGE?

    The registry lists the offender’s crime and offender category. The crimes are most often described in legal language which may leave you confused about what an offender actually did. The following is a glossary of terms translated loosely into plain language:

    Sexual predator: offender who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense and has been deemed by a court likely to do it again.

    Sexually violent offender: offender who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense.

    Sexually violent offense: 1st or 2nd degree rape or attempted rape; 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sexual offense.

    1st degree rape: Vaginal intercourse by force or threat of force, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc.


    2nd degree rape: Vaginal intercourse by force or threat of force, or with mentally disabled victim, or with victim under 14 and perpetrator 4 years older.

    1st degree sexual offense: Sexual act by force or threat of force, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc. Sexual act is oral sex, anal sex, or penetration by an object, but does not include vaginal intercourse.

    2nd degree sexual offense: Sexual act by force or threat of force, or with mentally disabled victim, or with victim under 14 and perpetrator 4 years older. Sexual act is oral sex, anal sex, or penetration by an object, but does not include vaginal intercourse.

    3rd degree sexual offense: Sexual contact without the consent of the victim, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc. Sexual contact is intentionally touching genitalia, the anus or other intimate area. It includes penetration by a part of the body except the penis or mouth.

    Also includes sexual contact with mentally disabled victim, victim under age 14 and perpetrator 4 years older, a sexual act with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 21, vaginal intercourse with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 21.

    4th degree sexual offense: Not considered a sexually violent offense. Sexual contact without consent of victim, sexual act with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 4 years older; vaginal intercourse with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 4 years older. Sexual contact is intentionally touching genitalia, the anus or other intimate area. It includes penetration by a part of the body except the penis or mouth.

    Child Sexual Offender: An offender who has been convicted of any of the above offenses with a victim less than 15 years old, i.e., any sexually violent offense (1st or 2nd degree rape; 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sexual offense), or a 4th degree sexual offense. Also includes offenders convicted of sexual abuse of a minor who is a family member or living in the household.

    Offender: An offender who has been convicted of certain other offenses related to sexual offending, like kidnapping or false imprisonment of a minor, violations of the child pornography and prostitution laws, etc.
    http://www.oag.state.md.us/sexualOff...erstanding.htm


    She also began speaking to Montgomery law enforcement, who searched Giordano's house in May last year, according to officials. But the case was ultimately halted.
    "We investigated Ms. Landau's client's matter and met with her multiple times," said Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy, the county's top prosecutor. "She ultimately did not wish to pursue it, and we honored her wishes."
    http://www.ongo.com/v/1579158/-1/072...women-of-abuse

    From same link:
    Giordano was not criminally charged in the Montgomery County matters, according to court records, and the allegations made by the two women were made in civil and family-law cases. In each case, Giordano filed allegations of his own, asserting that a former girlfriend harassed him by distributing slanderous letters and that his then-wife hit him in the upper back with a 14-inch steel cooking spoon.
    Why was this not charged as a criminal case to begin with?


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    Quote Originally Posted by concentric View Post
    Thanks Dushi for clarifying that.

    OK, so the "where r u baby" is on Sat. the 6th, I guess.

    Here is the link showing the messages, as so kindly posted by members on Thread #1,
    "the 16. I can communictate here." is on August 1.


    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=864&sid=2489190#counter

    "the 16. I can communictate here."
    ------------------------------------
    So, if that is her return date to where the boyfriend is, it has to mean that she was planning on staying somewhere else until the 16th? Because her return date from Aruba should have been, around August 5. Is that why the boyfriend texts on August 6, "where r u baby"?


    Where are U baby is posted August 2


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    [QUOTE=AbbieNormal;7048696]Dunno if anyone else answered this as I am reading the thread and posting as I go along...but "digitally choked" refers to being choked by someone using their hands only (as opposed to a cord or other choking device being used) Digits are fingers, remember.

    sorry if this is posted downthread. MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dushi View Post
    Where are U baby is posted August 2
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    Why does it say Saturday, when August 2 is Tuesday


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcina View Post
    I honestly don't think Maryland is all that slow. IMO
    Me either, especially in Montgomery County. JMO.

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    I just found a copy of a blank form to file a Protection Order, which you can see here:

    http://www.courts.state.md.us/distri...ce/dcpo001.pdf

    The second woman who filed a Protection Order in April of 2010 checked off the boxes for CHOKING and SLAPPING.



    So he does have a pattern of choking women.

    This is a DIFFERENT woman than the one who filed the report of sexual assault, which also included choking.

    <modsnip>?
    Last edited by Salem; 08-21-2011 at 01:56 AM. Reason: charges have not been brought yet.


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