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    TN - Knoxville, BlkMale skeletal UP1581, 31-40, Jan'82 - Howard Hardin

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1581

    Skeletal remains found near East Knox County. Gunshot wound to head.

    Estimated age Adult
    Minimum age 31 years
    Maximum age 40 years
    Race Black/African American
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 70, Estimated

    Probable year of death 1981 to 1982
    Estimated postmortem interval 8 Months

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-19-2013 at 01:36 PM.

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    Comparison to Joe Hill https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10633/

    Estimated Height is good, Age:29 is close enough imho, and the time line is good as well. The Michigan to Tennessee connection is unknown. Joe has a DNA sample submitted but not yet available. CODIS should have this figured out automatically soon thankfully. Thoughts?


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    don't know Masnitram. the circumstances of the disappearance of Hill suggest somewthing happened to him in or around Detroit.

    per his "circumstances" -

    Missing since 09/01/1981 from Detroit. Possible foul play. vehicle last seen in was the Grey/silver Pontiac TransAm. Vehicle recovered by Clinton Township PD (#81-9-13306) on 09/09/1981 with wheels and t-top cover missing.

    Clinton Twp is northeast of Detroit.

    does not sound like a voluntary disappearance to me and taking a person or body from MI to TN just to shoot him, seems unlikely to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    don't know Masnitram. the circumstances of the disappearance of Hill suggest somewthing happened to him in or around Detroit.

    per his "circumstances" -

    Missing since 09/01/1981 from Detroit. Possible foul play. vehicle last seen in was the Grey/silver Pontiac TransAm. Vehicle recovered by Clinton Township PD (#81-9-13306) on 09/09/1981 with wheels and t-top cover missing.

    Clinton Twp is northeast of Detroit.

    does not sound like a voluntary disappearance to me and taking a person or body from MI to TN just to shoot him, seems unlikely to me.
    All valid points...which is what I like about you Webrocket. I hang onto the "anything is possible" adage...at least CODIS should figure this one out for us in the near future.

    * the more I look at the recon/photo the more I see a discrepancy in the jawline. Joe's looks narrower...
    Last edited by masnitram; 08-29-2011 at 05:23 PM. Reason: scrutiny

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    Knox County investigators have released an age regression photo. Here's a link: http://www.wate.com/story/18246168/knox-cold-cases

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    TN - Knoxville - BlkMale Skeletal (UP 1581), 31-42, Zippered Dress Boots, Jan'82

    Hi All,

    I have been working on a UID female in Knox County and the cold case investigator has asked my thoughts on this John Doe, have looked for a thread and cannot seem to find one.

    Here is his Namus and Doe Network links:



    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1194umtn.html

    &

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1581

    In essence I think the cold case team are looking for a fresh perspective on this one so all potential matches are very much welcomed.

    Thanks
    P
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-21-2013 at 07:01 PM.

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    With the anomaly on the face, it should have provided a ID quickly. I'm guessing he wasn't the type that stuck out.

    Does the teeth tell a sign of some sort of disease or a drug user? I think the UID may have abused amphetamines that resulted in him grinding his teeth.

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7898/67/

    William Hamilton from Kentucky.

    Upper end of age range. Had a blue zip up jacket. Height at 72 inches, estimate.

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    His NamUs entry says his body was partially covered by logs and brush. It's surprising he was found at all in such a wooded area.

    I assume you've checked NamUs for UIDs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaH View Post
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7898/67/

    William Hamilton from Kentucky.

    Upper end of age range. Had a blue zip up jacket. Height at 72 inches, estimate.
    Hamilton walked with a limp. This should show up in the unsub's bones, no?

    Both cases have DNA samples, so I'd submit this possibility. The unsub's case does not show Hamilton as a rule-out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikon View Post
    With the anomaly on the face, it should have provided a ID quickly. I'm guessing he wasn't the type that stuck out.

    Does the teeth tell a sign of some sort of disease or a drug user? I think the UID may have abused amphetamines that resulted in him grinding his teeth.
    Hi Nikon,

    I can ask the investigator and get back to you regarding these questions thank you for you help!

    Also

    Marilynilpa I will also follow up with the investigator on your query

    Thank you for your help everyone. I will be trawling through missing persons today and will post any other potentials.

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    Charles Stanley

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...y_charles.html

    Likely a longshot but height and age range matches up. He was also supposedly traveling when he disappeared.

    Bullet lodged in brain but no idea where/how it entered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ualaw99 View Post
    Charles Stanley

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...y_charles.html

    Likely a longshot but height and age range matches up. He was also supposedly traveling when he disappeared.

    Bullet lodged in brain but no idea where/how it entered.
    I am going through possibles and have listed Charles as a possible too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ualaw99 View Post
    Charles Stanley

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...y_charles.html

    Likely a longshot but height and age range matches up. He was also supposedly traveling when he disappeared.

    Bullet lodged in brain but no idea where/how it entered.
    IMO, there's a zero probability that the anthropologists would have missed the bullet lodged in the brain, and the healed bullet hole in the skull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    IMO, there's a zero probability that the anthropologists would have missed the bullet lodged in the brain, and the healed bullet hole in the skull.
    I thought same thing but I think NAMUS mentions a healed fracture in the cheek bone which made me think maybe chance the bullet entered/damaged his face.

    As far as accounting for the bullet, you are very likely right.

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