OH OH - Katelyn Markham, 22, Fairfield, 14 August 2011 - #3

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Someone asked in the previous thread why they would be doing recon tomorrow and what did that mean.

Reconnaissance (literately French "recognition" • from Middle French reconoissance; Old French reconoistre; "-to recognize"), is a military term denoting a preliminary survey; especially: an exploratory military survey (also scouting) conducted to gain, or collect information. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance

I believe they are taking a look at the area to see if or where to do the next search. jmo
 
That is exactly what they are doing tomorrow. They had a lot of people show up today and covered more area than they thought, so are scouting new locations to search on Saturday.

The search for William DiSilvestro is not separate, it is going to be combined with Katelyn's and it will be on Saturday. The areas they are missing from are not that far apart and there are certain areas that could hold evidence for both cases so searchers in those areas will be looking for anything pertaining to either of them.
 
Maybe TES is just stating that they are searching for someone else tomorrow (whether they are or not) to distract people from their actually going back to the site of this decomp smell, or any other clues they found.
 
Anyone know what this body of water is?
W. Scioto Dr - Google Maps
and what Creek that is behind it
W. Scioto Dr - Google Maps

Seems like a road (dirt) behind it could be secluded after a festival.


I think that is part of the water treatment plant that is on Patterson. It is a lot more open that it looks on the map -not very isolated. (there is a shopping strip mall on the other side of the street).
 
Been gone all day. I was hoping for some good news from TES when I checked in.... Sigh. Guess not.
 
I'm not familiar with TES's practices, but I am kind of surprised that they are searching for Billy. I work with his mom's best friend, and it is her understanding that the police are fairly certain what happened to Billy, that he is not actually in Ohio any more but in Kentucky, and that the POI is already in jail on other charges.
 
The biggest thing that throws me is the burning; the texting of it & the timing + it was her records. Someone mentioned earlier could have it been a diary (interesting)? Could it have been something else as well?

Why this night, someone else mentioned rain at this time. Although, I get & appreciate could be a reference to weed... regardless of what he tries to sell; LE has the actual text(s) & their timing/cell phone approximation, etc. Surely, it is not a burning desire (at age 22 on a weekend) to get rid of trash. The VERY night she goes missing, reminds me of J. Powell going camping in the middle of winter. I mean what are the ODDS? I wish the friend would make a statement! Does the fact he (friend) hasn't come forward mean something???

To me he (JC) is looking like is a POI!
 
My brain hurts, well after finding out JC didn't even tell Nancy the truth about his age last night I am done. LOL
 
I take more stock in this article as it has quotes from Tim Miller.
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/search-begins-for-missing-woman-1244277.html

A few quotes:
"Miller said searches were conducted within a six-mile-plus radius of Markham’s Dorshire Drive townhouse. Searchers found a few “things of interest” that will need to be researched, but Miller declined to say what those items were."
"A smaller search will be conducted Friday, where some areas will be looked at again, he said, but Thursday’s volunteer turnout isn’t needed."
 
My brain hurts, well after finding out JC didn't even tell Nancy the truth about his age last night I am done. LOL

I didn't know that. Oh, brother! How old is he and how old did he tell NG he was?
 
The biggest thing that throws me is the burning; the texting of it & the timing + it was her records. Someone mentioned earlier could have it been a diary (interesting)? Could it have been something else as well?

Why this night, someone else mentioned rain at this time. Although, I get & appreciate could be a reference to weed... regardless of what he tries to sell; LE has the actual text(s) & their timing/cell phone approximation, etc. Surely, it is not a burning desire (at age 22 on a weekend) to get rid of trash. The VERY night she goes missing, reminds me of J. Powell going camping in the middle of winter. I mean what are the ODDS? I wish the friend would make a statement! Does the fact he (friend) hasn't come forward mean something???

To me he is looking like a POI!

I hadn't thought of this, but I suppose it's possible. Perhaps JC and KM argued, it got heated, he snapped and killed her, then panicked and called this friend. Then they concocted this whole story. Maybe one of them even sent text messages from KM's phone to JC's phone to try to create an alibi.

That's all supposition, of course, but interesting.
 
Hey RedGoblin and other people from out of town. I thought it would be important to tell you what the weather was like today for the people of Fairfield and greater Cincinnati (and more importantly, those saintly searchers!). HOT (today's high was 98 degrees F.) AND HUMID! With those poor searchers wearing long sleeves and pants, oy, I can see why they called it a day! Plus as the sun sets, the mosquitoes come out in full force, leaving itchy bites where they can find sweaty skin.

Some people have asked about fires/(pollution). I used to hang out in Hamilton (the next town over from FF) during the weekend/summer nights, and often the central figure in these hangouts were bonfires, in little containers (their exact title escapes my mind). We'd hang out, drink a little*, smoke a little*, etc. and play cornhole (a game where you throw bags of dried corn into a hole cut from a wooden platform, total Cincinnati phenomenon), and other yard games during the weekends. (Check out this link for more info: ) Cornhole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

*and by little... I mean a lot ;)
 
I hadn't thought of this, but I suppose it's possible. Perhaps JC and KM argued, it got heated, he snapped and killed her, then panicked and called this friend. Then they concocted this whole story. Maybe one of them even sent text messages from KM's phone to JC's phone to try to create an alibi.

That's all supposition, of course, but interesting.

JC has put his friend as "his" alibi. That is the problem, JC needs his friend to come forward to LE; which no doubt happened. That would possibly rule him out. Has he been ruled out? Wonder how his friend made out & if he took a poly? JC's alibi needs to be investigated, which I bet he has!
 
Sorry to drag this in from the other thread and perhaps this is a finished topic but I wanted to bring this up last night before everything blew up with the NG show and I got all side tracked....

We were talking about the weather, rain that night, etc. Well I'm a closet part time weather geek and I remember this night well, and I think you all will too once I say this. This was the same night as the horrible tragedy at the Indiana State Fair Sugarland concert. Bad storm, very windy, even in Ohio.

As part of my geekdom I follow some local weather experts on Twitter...quite often they will "retweet" posts from other locals about what's going on in their area. I looked back at their tweets from that night. I was SO hoping I could find an "it's really raining in Fairfield" post, but I didn't. What I did find though is that there was a Severe Thunderstorm Watch that night until 2AM and Butler and Warren Counties were included. This link shows the watch as well as a map of the storm (you can click on it to zoom in.) I'd say if that storm moved due east, then Fairfield and likely Katelyn's condo got rain and possibly a lot (and wherever John was if nearby doing his burning) Also, there is another Tweet on that same individual's page that night that says there were 50MPH winds in Oxford reported by a trained spotter. Oxford is about 20 miles from Fairfield (yes I know weather can change drastically within 20 miles, just reporting what I know) Wind like that would hardly make me want to start a fire!

Does that bring any clarity of the night to anyone else more local to the Fairfield area than I am? Jog any memories of it being particularly windy or rainy.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0778.html
 
Sorry to drag this in from the other thread and perhaps this is a finished topic but I wanted to bring this up last night before everything blew up with the NG show and I got all side tracked....

We were talking about the weather, rain that night, etc. Well I'm a closet part time weather geek and I remember this night well, and I think you all will too once I say this. This was the same night as the horrible tragedy at the Indiana State Fair Sugarland concert. Bad storm, very windy, even in Ohio.

As part of my geekdom I follow some local weather experts on Twitter...quite often they will "retweet" posts from other locals about what's going on in their area. I looked back at their tweets from that night. I was SO hoping I could find an "it's really raining in Fairfield" post, but I didn't. What I did find though is that there was a Severe Thunderstorm Watch that night until 2AM and Butler and Warren Counties were included. This link shows the watch as well as a map of the storm (you can click on it to zoom in.) I'd say if that storm moved due east, then Fairfield and likely Katelyn's condo got rain and possibly a lot (and wherever John was if nearby doing his burning) Also, there is another Tweet on that same individual's page that night that says there were 50MPH winds in Oxford reported by a trained spotter. Oxford is about 20 miles from Fairfield (yes I know weather can change drastically within 20 miles, just reporting what I know) Wind like that would hardly make me want to start a fire!

Does that bring any clarity of the night to anyone else more local to the Fairfield area than I am? Jog any memories of it being particularly windy or rainy.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0778.html

I doubt that anyone would light a fire in a fire pit with those winds.
 
JC has put his friend as "his" alibi. That is the problem, JC needs his friend to come forward to LE; which no doubt happened. That would possibly rule him out. Has he been ruled out? Wonder how his friend made out & if he took a poly? JC's alibi needs to be investigated, which I bet he has!

I assume that LE knows who the friend is, and have thoroughly questioned him. The problem lies in the fact that they would be one another's alibi if they were both involved in some way. He may have vouched for JC, but how reliable is he if, as in my scenario, he helped him conceal the crime?
 
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