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    CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean View Post
    I am reminded of the Samantha Runnion case where she was snatched by Avila from the front yard while under her grandmother's care. It was mentioned many times that "if only" she had watched more carefully.....
    It crosses everyone's mind-but in this case and in that case it seems as if reasonable care was taken and there is no issue with negligence. Bad things happen even under the tightest supervision.

    So, let's not derail this topic with blame placing on Rebecca as it relates to the care of Max. Those that feel it is her fault-that's fine most of you have made your point and it is posted.
    But we are not going to make it a talking point in this thread. Whatever really happened is a tragedy no matter how you slice it-so let's move on from blaming Rebecca it is just not constructive at this point. If that changes for some reason-the discussion may roll with that in the future.
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    I've been following this case and have been on and off on the threads. I was just wondering if the message on the door has already been discussed. I haven't seen any discussion, but I haven't read every post up until now, so I don't know if I missed it. TIA.

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    I haven't read the autopsy reports in full yet.

    Thanks to all of you who have posted about it! The added professional opinions and personal experiences are so helpful to understanding it all!

    Regarding RZ' case: Was there any mention in RZ' autopsy report about the state of the master bedroom? Bed made/not made? Clothes on floor? Signs of disturbance?

    [Note: I did read the comments posted here about the state of the guesthouse bedrooms. Thanks again!]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    I haven't read the autopsy reports in full yet.

    Thanks to all of you who have posted about it! The added professional opinions and personal experiences are so helpful to understanding it all!

    Regarding RZ' case: Was there any mention in RZ' autopsy report about the state of the master bedroom? Bed made/not made? Clothes on floor? Signs of disturbance?

    [Note: I did read the comments posted here about the state of the guesthouse bedrooms. Thanks again!]
    Nothing about the master bedroom or anywhere else in the mansion, other than the door and room where Rebecca was.
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    I wish we had a thread for links only, no discussion, for this case. That way articles, autopsy reports, pictures, etc would be in a centralized location.

    Last night there was discussion about the balcony windows and the rope. If there was a thread with links, it would have been easier to move pictures, or information forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosetattoo View Post
    I've been following this case and have been on and off on the threads. I was just wondering if the message on the door has already been discussed. I haven't seen any discussion, but I haven't read every post up until now, so I don't know if I missed it. TIA.
    There have been conversations within more than one thread, if I am not mistaken, however, I have no idea where to direct you. Sorry.
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    Quester, that's a good question and something I've been thinking about as well. Especially with women's clothing in the guest house, you would think it would be necessary to investigate the master bedroom to get a better idea of Rebecca's state of mind. If the clothes in the guest house weren't hers, where were the clothes she wore earlier that night? Had she slept at all that night or prepared to sleep? Maybe there was even a suitcase and she was preparing to move out. I'm not saying LE didn't check the room but it would be interesting to see what they found, or didn't find. Just in typing this I'm thinking it's interesting that she supposedly brought her phone into the room that she killed herself from- I would expect to find it in the master, especially at that time of night. My cell phone would not be high on my list of things to have with me when I jumped from a balcony. I would want it to call for help if I was murdered, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosetattoo View Post
    I've been following this case and have been on and off on the threads. I was just wondering if the message on the door has already been discussed. I haven't seen any discussion, but I haven't read every post up until now, so I don't know if I missed it. TIA.
    The message on the door has been discussed in some threads. Someone said it reminded them of the movie Pretty Woman, and some story told in it about someone saving someone, but I don't know if anyone else thought so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Please continue here.

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    ALSO - please remember, we do NOT sleuth minors, we do NOT post identifying information about minors, we do NOT name minors.

    If a minor is a victim or has been publically named by LE as a perp, then their name may be used. In this particular case, the ONLY minor that may be identified by name is Max, because he was a victim. ALL other minors are OFF THE TABLE. Even when quoting from MSM or other sources, if the minor is not the victim or the perp, we change the name to initials. We do NOT quote the name of the minor. This is to protect the minor. Please keep that in mind.

    ALSO - and in this case this is VERY IMPORTANT

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    Do Not Accuse anyone - there is no POI, Suspect, Etc. - You MAY speculate, but don't accuse.
    REMEMBER - a difference of opinion is NOT a TOS violation, but tag-teaming is and you will be called on it.
    BE RESPECTFUL.
    Sleuthing of family members, outside of what is released by MSM or LE is not allowed. Again - there is no suspect/POI here. Public info is allowed, speculation is allowed, but sleuthing up the "back story" is NOT allowed unless it directly relates to MSM or LE.

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    I find it difficult to discuss the message with too much effort because of the discrepancy regarding what the message actually said. Rebecca's AR said one thing and her sister says another. Perhaps the one word difference is meaningless but I can think of different interpretations for each one and it bothers me not knowing which version is correct.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    I wish we had a thread for links only, no discussion, for this case. That way articles, autopsy reports, pictures, etc would be in a centralized location.

    Last night there was discussion about the balcony windows and the rope. If there was a thread with links, it would have been easier to move pictures, or information forward.
    That would be great! I have a bunch of links saved in Notepad, but not organized very well. A thread with notes as to what they are would be fantastic.

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    I did a screen shot from the PC of the guest room with the tipped over chair and it looks like a cell phone by the chair. I think the pic on it could be of RZ and a sister possibly. I've not seen this mentioned nor does it have an evidence tag by it. Anyone seen this discussed by LE or news articles? Should I post the pic? Is that okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanna82437 View Post
    That would be great! I have a bunch of links saved in Notepad, but not organized very well. A thread with notes as to what they are would be fantastic.

    I have no idea how to go about this, but if someone does, I am all ears!! Is this something we would start ourselves? Or ask a moderator for help with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanna82437 View Post
    I did a screen shot from the PC of the guest room with the tipped over chair and it looks like a cell phone by the chair. I think the pic on it could be of RZ and a sister possibly. I've not seen this mentioned nor does it have an evidence tag by it. Anyone seen this discussed by LE or news articles? Should I post the pic? Is that okay?
    Please do!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    I have no idea how to go about this, but if someone does, I am all ears!! Is this something we would start ourselves? Or ask a moderator for help with?
    Not sure, but think a mod is needed, maybe?

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