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    Quote Originally Posted by cali_mommy View Post
    Just curious about what others think the message actually means???
    She saved him, can he save her

    She (killer) saved Jonah (from sin) - can he save her (the killer) (from murder charges) ?
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    I just cannot believe she would go to the trouble to tie her feet together, gag herself, get the rope around her neck and then tie her hands together before hanging herself. I don't think it was suicide IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steff13 View Post
    Agreed.

    Obviously, someone who intends to commit suicide is not in their "right" mind, but if this was meant as some sort of suicide note or final thought or whatever, why write it in such an unusual way? It's as though the intent was to obscure the writer of the message, and I have to wonder why Rebecca would do that? Certainly, if she commited suicide, she recognized that her death would be determined to be a suicide, and there is no reason to use anything other than her own handwriting to write it.

    Is it possible she did all this with the intention of making it difficult for LE to determine her cause of death, maybe even to make it appear as though she was murdered? It's a stretch, IMO, but I suppose it's possible.

    I just can't see Rebecca obscuring her own cause of death and motive. I think there would be a motive to make it look bizarre or obscured/mysterious if she were murdered. Put that together with someone knowingly covering their own DNA and other evidence and I think there is a strong case for murder.

    The message on the door just doesn't seem to mean anything from any perspective related to Rebecca writing it or doing it in that way. I think it is either meaningless and left by the killer to add a bizarre/mysterious facet and make it look like a suicide or a serial killer or perhaps it is a message for someone, staging the crime scene (poorly?), etc.?



    The message still seems reminiscent of this genre of fantasy/fiction to me:


    1. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnIWHhK7tQ"]Someone To Protect - A Sesshomaru Fanfic Video - YouTube[/ame]



      www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnIWHhK7tQ7 min - Sep 30, 2009 - Uploaded by shedvil1985
      She then asks if she is in debt to him because he saved her. ... to no-one, but if she could choose who she belonged to, it would be him ...
    2. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVSThW6mvU"]Devil May Cry Walkthrough (PS2) Part 25 - YouTube[/ame]



      www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVSThW6mvU11 min - Nov 11, 2009 - Uploaded by AplG7Rocks
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=judSO1swOUU ... She saved him. He shed tears for her and blame himself for not being their to save ...
    3. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NaQfbsV0o"]He Saved Me (Jemi Vampire/Love Story) Chapter.1 - YouTube[/ame]



      www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NaQfbsV0o4 sec - Aug 15, 2011 - Uploaded by mongouseGirl8786
      Joe looked at her through the darkness as he could see her perfectly. J: 'i can save you dems' Dlooked at him confused) 'what are ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    I think this definitely should have been looked into. However, I still agree with this (I'm assuming block leters means writing in all capitals)

    http://handwritinganalysis-1.blogspo...-capitals.html




    I think finding a note or using any written evidence related to a death/murder that is in all printed caps is immediately suspect since it is much more difficult to know who wrote it.
    In the AR, the message was typed with just the first letter of each word capitalized...which is even odder to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy101 View Post
    She saved him, can he save her

    She (killer) saved Jonah (from sin) - can he save her (the killer) (from murder charges) ?
    The AR says the message was "...Can You Save Her". It is Rebecca's family that said that the You is He.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcali View Post
    In the AR, the message was typed with just the first letter of each word capitalized...which is even odder to me.

    I wonder if this is how it was written?

    SHE SAVED HIM ....

    Using lower case letters when quickly painting a suicide note, seems even less likely



    Just out of cryptographic curiosity I put the beginnings of the letters into google and get this!

    How to avoid access computer through ssh
    You can use the following command to avoid access via SSH for a given user account. Code: Select all: # chsh -s /sbin/nologin {username} ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcali View Post
    The AR says the message was "...Can You Save Her". It is Rebecca's family that said that the You is He.
    so then the can you save her - is someone leaving a message for Jonah?


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    It almost sounds like someone, who ultimately murdered Rebecca, wanted Jonah to suffer the loss of someone he loved. His target: the beloved Max. Max is attacked and left for dead, but Max didn't die, because "she saved him". So, she will die in his place, unless "you", Jonah, can save her (which he obviously could not).

    I know it sounds like something out of a bad novel, but nothing else makes any sense of the words for me.

    Who would want to cause Jonah such pain, and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steff13 View Post
    Agreed.

    Obviously, someone who intends to commit suicide is not in their "right" mind, but if this was meant as some sort of suicide note or final thought or whatever, why write it in such an unusual way? It's as though the intent was to obscure the writer of the message, and I have to wonder why Rebecca would do that? Certainly, if she commited suicide, she recognized that her death would be determined to be a suicide, and there is no reason to use anything other than her own handwriting to write it.

    Is it possible she did all this with the intention of making it difficult for LE to determine her cause of death, maybe even to make it appear as though she was murdered? It's a stretch, IMO, but I suppose it's possible.
    That is a theory, but not a very popular one here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy101 View Post
    so then the can you save her - is someone leaving a message for Jonah?
    I posted upthread the various options for the She, Him, You and Her. It could be a message to JS. Or, as I posted as an example, a message to AS since she was found hanging in clear view of the guest house... I do believe the message is meant for someone specific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by steff13 View Post
    Agreed.

    Obviously, someone who intends to commit suicide is not in their "right" mind, but if this was meant as some sort of suicide note or final thought or whatever, why write it in such an unusual way? It's as though the intent was to obscure the writer of the message, and I have to wonder why Rebecca would do that? Certainly, if she commited suicide, she recognized that her death would be determined to be a suicide, and there is no reason to use anything other than her own handwriting to write it.

    Is it possible she did all this with the intention of making it difficult for LE to determine her cause of death, maybe even to make it appear as though she was murdered? It's a stretch, IMO, but I suppose it's possible.
    If she tried to make her death look like a murder and tried to obscure the writer of the message, why wouldn't she clean her hands and remove the black paint? The black paint was on her right hand, her collar bone, her breast, and the rope on her neck. To me, it looks like someone else wrote the note and went over his/her way to show Rebecca was the author. Who would be so messy to have paint over so many different body parts after writing a message?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenM View Post
    If she tried to make her death look like a murder and tried to obscure the writer of the message, why wouldn't she clean her hands and remove the black paint? The black paint was on her right hand, her collar bone, her breast, and the rope on her neck. To me, it looks like someone else wrote the note and went over his/her way to show Rebecca was the author. Who would be so messy to have paint over so many different body parts after writing a message?
    exactly...and even more curious...she had no paint on the rope bindings on her wrists and ankles...so is that to say that she was already bound --both hands and feet and hopped over to the guest room door, precisely squirted paint from the tube to the paintbrush and crafted her final words on to the door before hopping with the precision of a gymnast to the balcony and over the side?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenM View Post
    If she tried to make her death look like a murder and tried to obscure the writer of the message, why wouldn't she clean her hands and remove the black paint? The black paint was on her right hand, her collar bone, her breast, and the rope on her neck. To me, it looks like someone else wrote the note and went over his/her way to show Rebecca was the author. Who would be so messy to have paint over so many different body parts after writing a message?
    And yet the paint on the body has been used as an argument for murder. It is a very suspicious and confusing situation and I for one do not have all the answers. And I'm ok with that.


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    If it was my family member who died...I would not stop until I found all the answers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stilettos View Post
    If it was my family member who died...I would not stop until I found all the answers.
    I was waiting for someone to say that. With the information publicly available to me, I can only theorize to the best of my ability. . . With the facts on hand. I'm ok with waiting on more information that will clear things up. I like to think I'm open to changing my theory should new info come out.


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