ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 5

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35-year-old Robyn Gardner disappeared while on vacation in Aruba on August 2, 2011. Her traveling companion and suspect in the case, Gary Giordano, says she was swept away while they were snorkeling.

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TimeLine approximate; updated 9-11 @ 3:18pm PST


July 2011 - Robyn sends GG a text "Get me out of here." Per a report. there is a fight just prior to leaving for Aruba between GG and RF.

Sunday, July 31st - Flight time from Maryland to Orlando is about 1 1/2 hours. Given the time they would have needed to be at the airport for security, my guess-timate is that they were at the airport no later than 6am.
9am – Orlando Airport: ABC News has seen receipts that revealed that the couple ordered four Bloody Marys at 9 a.m. at the Orlando Airport on their way to the island,
?? Arrive at hotel - and that the two bought a liter of Ciroq vodka after they checked into their room at the Marriott Hotel in Aruba.
Sunday, July 31, late afternoon - I met Robyn and Gary on the beach in front of the Marriott Stellaris Hotel. They had arrived on that day. My husband and I sat and spoke with them for awhile. They asked my husband and I about activities on the island.... Was shocked to see that this had happened, since we just spoke with them last Sunday, late afternoon. I am sure it was Robyn because I commented on her tattoo, indicating that I liked it. Didn't think they went together as a couple, as he was much older. She was also sitting kind of far away from him on the beach chair. She was nice. We were actually discussing the Natalee Holloway case. I will pray for her return.

Monday, August 1st - GG and RG bought bottle of vodka this day, per reports. Nothing else reported as of 9-2-11 of their time spent for day.

Monday, August 1st – 5:02pm – Facebook comment: “the 16. I can communicate here.”

Tuesday. August 2nd – 2:05am - Facebook comment left on RF's wall by Robyn: "This sucks."

Tuesday, August 2nd – 6:51am - Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is thought to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive. The videotape from the Marriott Resort in Aruba allegedly shows the two having a furious and violent fight on the day she went missing. A source close to the investigation told the National Enquirer: 'They were having a major fight. Robyn was waving her arms and shouting at Giordano. He was grabbing her arms and jerking her around and shouting back at her. 'Then Giordano apparently realized their argument was heating up in public where someone might overhear them. He violently grabbed the back of Robyn's neck with one hand and shoved her back into the elevator with the other hand.' After reviewing the video multiple times, experts believe Robyn shouted: 'I'm out of here. I'm leaving F you!. I'm not spending another minute with you!' while he shouted back: 'Get back here! I'll kill you, b*****!'

Tuesday, August 2nd – 7:57am - Facebook: RF to Robyn: “?? InBox me”

3:06pm - Arrived at restaurant – Seen on camera entering restaurant.

3:10pm - Robyn sends RF a Facebook message 'Don't worry. I care about you I love you we'll talk and sort things out when I got back,' Reportedly went to bathroom after entering restaurant.

4:13pm - Robyn is last seen (leaving restaurant). A man who works near Baby Beach reported seeing their vehicle park up by the rocks close to the water, wondered why they chose there to go snorkeling. A fisherman comes forward and says that GG and RG never went into the water. Gardner was last seen alive Aug. 2 at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of Aruba with Gary Giordano - approximately 4pm. Giordano, 50, and Gardner, 35, had traveled to Aruba together. He is being held in an Arubian jail but could be released today. Giordano claims that Gardner got swept out to sea when the two went snorkeling

approx. 4:22pm - Approximately 10 minutes after leaving restaurant a fisherman reportedly saw Giordano and Gardner leaving a beach together, and said they did not get into the water.

6:15pm (time seen on video) (first report said 6:02 pm) - Giordano reportedly is seen in surveillance video, tapping on closed shutters of the bar – per “sources” even though it has been mentioned that there are NO cameras in the back of restaurant.

6:20pm - GG reportedly headed to the back kitchen of the bar and told someone to call police. Three witnesses, two women and a man, told police that Giordano approached them on Aug. 2, saying, "Can you help me? We were snorkeling and my girlfriend is missing," she told police. One woman told police that while Giordano's sneakers were wet, his shorts were not. When Giordano reported Gardner missing, he seemed extremely drunk, a local fisherman, Sergio Silva, told ABC News, although Giordano told police that the two never purchased alcohol at the restaurant.

6.23pm - 911 received notification of a possible drowning of a woman. The traveling companion of this woman, a man G.V.G. stated that they were going snorkeling behind Nanki Country Club.
At 6:23 p.m. on the day of her disappearance, police were called, and 20 minutes later began to search the area. Then, Giordano left the search to return to his hotel and take a nap, according to police. Disclaimer: This claim, at 6.40 GG went for a nap, not true, there are various pics of GG helping the police in the dark, pics where it is completely dark, it takes till 7:30 for it to get dark, so GG was not taking a nap at 6:40, he still was working with the police at least at 7:30.

Wednesday, August 4th - Robin’s mother arrives.

Wednesday, August 4th – original date to fly back

Friday, August 5th - Three days after the search for Gardner began, Giordano got within feet of leaving the country before he was stopped at Aruba's airport where he told U.S. Customs he had to change flights because of weather, and told officials that his travel companion was "taking another flight." He was trying to board a flight one hour earlier than his scheduled departure. When arrested, authorities say Giordano was drenched in sweat. Mug shot after being arrested trying to get on a plane off the island.

Wednesday, August 31st – GG detained in jail for another 60 days (Oct 30th).
 
From the last thread:
R.U.Kidding! said:
EH! What is an "annual plan"?--Like if an accident happened to Robin Gardner anywhere, anytime within the year he would be the beneficiary?? Can that be right?

If you get a trip specific plan it ends when you return from your trip. If you are going on multiple trips it is more cost effective to buy an annual plan than getting insurance every time you travel.
 
I'm sorry, I don't speak or read this language, dutch? Are they searching for Robyn in the ocean? If you can, please clarify. Thx :)


A special dive team is searching the area where the American lady Robyn Lynn Gardner disappeared.
 

As was posted in the previous thread, the Marriott Renaissance hotel where they were staying has it's own private island w/ it's own private beach. The website photos show calm waters, and does mention kayaking but not snorkeling, though hard to believe they wouldn't offer that as well. Here's the link to hotel photos:
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/hotel-photos/auabr-renaissance-aruba-resort-and-casino/
Now, finding out GG & Robyn were seen at this public area at this little run down restaurant when they had the amenities, beautiful beaches and safe, calm waters of the hotel's own private island to me speaks volumes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this first day they were seen there would have been their first day on the island, and allegedly before their witnessed argument (if that indeed happened), and if I have the timeline correct, even before the texts Robyn sent to Richard. GG was obviously up to something IMHO.
 
Most of the snorkelling is done away from the hotels
Most tourists take boats out to snorkelling areas in groups or go on their own away from the hotel beaches
There is not much to see near the shores of the hotel

I don't think the beach bar looks rundown, But thats just me
I agree, the area they/he chose is certainly an unusual area to go into the water, its looks very rocky, rugged
 
Sorry, not much time to closely view these videos and stories, just bringing information from MSM just coming out. I've seen more footage and will try and bring it forward as found.

This footage shows GG at the same resturant the day before, along with a 2 page written story. Timestamps are in the video. here's a snippet...

"If I were interviewing him, I would really push him on .. .here you are sort of walking around like you don't really care and you're not really trying to find the people on the other side of those doors," said Brad Garrett, an ABC News consultant and retired FBI profiler.

Investigators said that it appeared that Giordano wanted to be visible on every camera at the restaurant as if to establish an alibi."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332
 
Who took photos of Robyn and Gary leaving the restaurant and why?
I read that someone was interested in her tattooes but that is clearly not the case, wrong side.
Who takes pics of strangers?
 
So they go to the same restaurant the day before but its closed
She is wearing the same dress

and then the next day, they come back when it is open, have lunch and she disappears
He made a point of drawing attention to them


It doesn't sound much like an argument that got out of hand,IMO
Sounds like things were planned the day before
 
Watching the video it seems he is acting out the search - he knocks on a bathroom door but doesn't wait to see if someone comes out, he does not go in - he is just tapping on doors and walking around. Very fakw. mo
 
Who took photos of Robyn and Gary leaving the restaurant and why?
I read that someone was interested in her tattooes but that is clearly not the case, wrong side.
Who takes pics of strangers?

If police now have the pictures then they must know who took them and who it was that gave them to police.

Wasn't was said to be an employee?
 
If police now have the pictures then they must know who took them and who it was that gave them to police.

Wasn't was said to be an employee?

Could be, i don't recall
 
Watching the video it seems he is acting out the search - he knocks on a bathroom door but doesn't wait to see if someone comes out, he does not go in - he is just tapping on doors and walking around. Very fakw. mo

I realize that everybody reacts to situations differently, but GG seems far too cool to have just lost a friend in the ocean
IMO, he is going through the motions, no panic, no fear
 
Most of the snorkelling is done away from the hotels
Most tourists take boats out to snorkelling areas in groups or go on their own away from the hotel beaches
There is not much to see near the shores of the hotel

That is good to know.

I don't think the beach bar looks rundown, But thats just me
I agree, the area they/he chose is certainly an unusual area to go into the water, its looks very rocky, rugged

To clarify, in comparison to the resort where they were staying:)
 
So they go to the same restaurant the day before but its closed

She is wearing the same dress

Did they go there the day before so GG could scope it out and to see what time the restaurant closed? Or is it possible it was also so GG could prove he had the goods and to set up her hand-off for the following day? Was this the reason she was wearing the same dress, or did she just pack really light? Whether he murdered her or sold her is yet to be proven, either way his behavior is very suspicious.
 
Also it was reported that GG had previously purchased an insurance policy on Robyn for a trip in June, then she cancelled the trip. Could this be why he purchased an annual policy the second time around, in the event that she cancelled again? :groucho:
 
Did they go there the day before so GG could scope it out and to see what time the restaurant closed? Or is it possible it was also so GG could prove he had the goods and to set up her hand-off for the following day? Was this the reason she was wearing the same dress, or did she just pack really light? Whether he murdered her or sold her is yet to be proven, either way his behavior is very suspicious.

What?
Wearing the same dress to prove he had the goods?
Maybe she packed light, I don't know
Personally, It stood out to me because I am the type to wear something different instead of the same thing two days in a row
It seems he was scoping out the restaurant, maybe hours of operation

Keep in mind, he brought attention to them, introducing them to the waiter
He wanted to be noticed
Hard to do if nobody is around

My point is, whatever happened, IMO, was not spur of the moment argument
The location appears to have been checked out the day before
 
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