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    What do you guys think

    Of El Jefe's talk of some kind of buglary ring in the warehouse area of Daron's old place of business. Darin supposedly had some insurance scam that Darlie said she was unaware of and Darin copped to it.
    Do you think that the idea of payback or a solicited murder has any merit?

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    in a word, no.

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    No, but I do believe that Darin's own illegal activities contributed to him failing those lie detector tests.

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    That's interesting DP. I had never thought of that. But why is he keeping quiet when he obviously knows more than he's telling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgal
    ...Do you think that the idea of payback or a solicited murder has any merit?
    I don't think so. I think Darlie murdered her own children. I think that if it were an intruder, he would have certainly killed his biggest threat first, meaning Darlie would have been killed first.

    It makes no sense for an intruder to enter the home unarmed if his intent were to murder two children. Didn't the intruder use a knife from the Routier's home?


    Let's see. The intruder managed to find the kitchen and the knives. Then, the intruder manages to repeatedly stab both boys before waking their mother. Then, he stabs the mother but doesn't kill her. His intent is to make sure the boys are dead. He doesn't go throughout the home; he doesn't rob them. He then leaves. Isn't it convenient that the boys were downstairs sleeping with their mother that particular evening. It sure made it convenient for the murderer to do his deed and to exit as quickly as he entered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgal
    That's interesting DP. I had never thought of that. But why is he keeping quiet when he obviously knows more than he's telling?
    For the same reason she is. They can do each other some serious damage. While we know the PD tried to get something on Darin during the investigation and did not, I believe that they'd still love to charge him with something. Perhaps he knows that Darlie KNOWS something that could get him (or they THINK could get him) in a great deal of trouble. At least that's my guess.

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    I think Darin's day will come pretty soon. At least I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgal
    Of El Jefe's talk of some kind of buglary ring in the warehouse area of Daron's old place of business. Darin supposedly had some insurance scam that Darlie said she was unaware of and Darin copped to it.
    Do you think that the idea of payback or a solicited murder has any merit?
    No, I don't. If payback, why is Darin keeping silent while his loving wife sits on DR given his level of support prior to this. If a solicited murder why would he solicit the murder of two of his three children. Don't ask me to believe Darlie was the target, that makes no sense to me, as she would be as dead as those children had she been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cami
    No, I don't. If payback, why is Darin keeping silent while his loving wife sits on DR given his level of support prior to this. If a solicited murder why would he solicit the murder of two of his three children. Don't ask me to believe Darlie was the target, that makes no sense to me, as she would be as dead as those children had she been.
    Well remember Darin said he wanted to help his wife, but not if that meant he has to change places with her. LOL That one is a CLASSIC!!! LOL
    There is no honor among thieves and murderers. That's my theory. We KNOW for a fact that they both lied through their teeth on the witness stand. I think that was their biggest problem. A jury knows when its being lied to. In this case, proof was held up to their faces time after time. Whether Darin was lying to try and help Darlie or to try and cover up anything he might have done wrong OUTSIDE of the murders, or whether he was lying to cover up anything he might have participated in with Darlie during the night of the murders, may never be known to anyone but the two of them. If Darin starts talking, Darlie will too. She's got nothing to lose. If Darlie starts talking, well anything is possible, isn't it? If she's got some sort of proof that might get Darin locked up for one reason or another (depending on the crime and the statute of limitations), then he knows he's got to be the "ever-loyal, trying my hardest darlin to get you out of prison, husband.

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    Jeana I agree whole heartly in your last post and that's why I believe that she stated in her last Appeal pointing at Darin regarding the blood on his jeans.


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    windchime, this is OT for this case, but the pic in your siggy line has just moved me to tears! God Bless.

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    Darin's involvement

    I believe Darin may have started this whole thing. Now, I don't know that he intended to have anyone killed, but if he did, I believe it was Darlie that he wanted dead. Darin admitted (after Darlie's conviction) that he had spoken with people just three days before the murders about having the house burglarized for the insurance money.

    I think that what may have happened is that someone (possibly more than one person) came into the house that night and either intended to burglarize the home for the insurance money OR to harm/kill Darlie because she had asked for a separation that night.

    Maybe Darin wanted the home burglarized and Darlie awoke and put up a fight? Maybe Darin knew they were going to do it but didn't know what night it would be done (if he knew, I'm sure he would have preferred Darlie to be upstairs with him in the bedroom where she would be less likely to hear anything)? Or maybe, after she asked for the separation, he became furious and wanted her either harmed or dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamrock
    I believe Darin may have started this whole thing. Now, I don't know that he intended to have anyone killed, but if he did, I believe it was Darlie that he wanted dead. Darin admitted (after Darlie's conviction) that he had spoken with people just three days before the murders about having the house burglarized for the insurance money.

    I think that what may have happened is that someone (possibly more than one person) came into the house that night and either intended to burglarize the home for the insurance money OR to harm/kill Darlie because she had asked for a separation that night.

    Maybe Darin wanted the home burglarized and Darlie awoke and put up a fight? Maybe Darin knew they were going to do it but didn't know what night it would be done (if he knew, I'm sure he would have preferred Darlie to be upstairs with him in the bedroom where she would be less likely to hear anything)? Or maybe, after she asked for the separation, he became furious and wanted her either harmed or dead.

    Thoughts, anyone?

    Yup, I've always thought that there was more to this story then what we heard in the media. As for Darin, I think he had something to do with what happened but I'm not sure what. After hearing about the insurance scams that Darin wanted/did do, I thought exactly what you said - maybe it's close to what ACTUALLY happened, I doubt we will ever know the entire truth.

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    Darlie and Darin have always said that they thought Darlie was attacked first. Of course, the evidence doesn't prove this to be true - but it does fit with your theory.

    My problem with it is the fact that Darlie's injuries compared to those of the boys don't match. Darlie's got slicing injuries whereas the boys have deep penetrating wounds to their torsos. It just seems to me that whomever killed the boys knew what type of injuries to inflict to get the job done. If Darlie was not only the intended target, but attacked first, why did they not stab her in the chest? Why would they knowingly leave her alive when she hadn't even screamed before they left? Even if she had, if Darin set it up, she could have screamed and he wouldn't have done anything to help her.

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    The major problem with this is that this wasn't the first time that the Routiers scammed the insurance company. They had done it once before with the car, and Darlie had to know about it.

    It goes to figure she was in full knowledge of the burglary scam. Yet the night of the murders, absolutely nothing was taken. Not even stuff no burglar can walk by without snatching.

    Also, as far as the talk of separation, that is said to have taken place after Darin returned from taking Dana home. It would have been late at night by that time. So how could Darin have asked the "burglars" to kill his wife for asking for a separation? If he did, it was three days before she ever actually asked for one.

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