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    Rebecca's cell phone records

    UPDATE (NEW INFO):

    Just in case this hasn't been posted yet:

    Records reveal final cell phone calls to Rebecca Zahau

    Posted: Sep 17, 2011 6:18 PM
    Updated: Sep 17, 2011 6:36 PM
    By David Gotfredson, Field Producer - email


    CORONADO, Calif. (CBS8) -- Rebecca Zahau's cell phone logs show she engaged in a series of phone conversations and traded several text messages in the hours before her hanging death at the Spreckels mansion in Coronado.

    News 8 obtained two pages of AT&T billing logs from the 32-year-old's cell phone, which family members said was a newer-model phone using the Windows Phone mobile operating system.
    REBECCA ZAHAU - CELL PHONE LOG

    JULY 12, 2011


    4:50PM

    Outgoing call to Jonah Shacknai's cell 1 minute
    7:09PM
    Incoming call from Coronado Bay Urgent Care

    1 minute
    7:34PM
    Outgoing call to Jonah Shacknai's cell

    1 minute
    7:39PM
    Incoming call from Adam Shacknai's cell

    1 minute
    8:06PM
    Outgoing call to Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell

    27 minutes
    8:33PM
    Incoming call from Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell

    3 minutes
    9:25PM
    Outgoing call to Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell

    1 minute
    9:44PM
    Incoming text from Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell


    9:48PM
    Outgoing text to Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell


    9:48PM Outgoing text to Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell
    9:52PM
    Incoming text from Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell


    9:53PM
    Incoming text from Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell


    9:53PM
    Outgoing text to Mary Zahau-Loehner's cell


    10:41PM
    Incoming text from Nina Romano's cell (ex sister-in-law)


    JULY 13, 2011
    12:50AM
    Outgoing to Rebecca Zahau's own voice mail

    2 Minutes
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1548506...-rebecca-zahau

    I wonder why the LE are reluctant to give back Rebecca's cell phone to her family. Don't they normally give back the victim's belongings to the family once they have finished and closed a case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosemary View Post
    UPDATE (NEW INFO):

    Just in case this hasn't been posted yet:





    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1548506...-rebecca-zahau

    I wonder why the LE are reluctant to give back Rebecca's cell phone to her family. Don't they normally give back the victim's belongings to the family once they have finished and closed a case?

    Thank you so much for posting this. First off, Rebecca and JS did not seem to communicate for a long period of time, as anytime you answer a phone call, it states 1 minute, even if it is only 20 seconds.

    Not sure what time they ate dinner, or where, but when Rebecca died her stomach was empty, but according to the phone records it must have been prior to 7:30, which fits with AS reported times. If she even ate, since she only had bile in her stomach).

    Why did AS call Rebecca's cell at 7:39? They had gone to dinner and he said they arrived at the mansion at 8 pm, so why a 7:39 call? This is VERY hinky to me. If he had gone to visit Max, and called at 7:30 to find Rebecca, how could they have found each other, gotten to the car and gotten all the way back to Coronado by 8?

    Why did DS sister call Rebecca at 10:41? Why not call her the next day? Or talk to her when she came to bring JS something? Was it her clothing in the guest house bedroom?

    I have more thoughts that I will post on after I think this through a bit.

    Thank you again for posting this!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    Why did DS sister call Rebecca at 10:41? Why not call her the next day? Or talk to her when she came to bring JS something? Was it her clothing in the guest house bedroom?
    Houseguest not Nina.
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1546671...-hanging-death

    "We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."

    Nesbit would not identify that female house guest, but the autopsy report said Zahau's teenage sister was also visiting from out of town and staying at the Coronado home in the days before the hanging.



    Not popular view. Suicide view. Maybe the fact the family wanted more answers threw RZ into a tizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieRose View Post
    Houseguest not Nina.
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1546671...-hanging-death

    "We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."

    Nesbit would not identify that female house guest, but the autopsy report said Zahau's teenage sister was also visiting from out of town and staying at the Coronado home in the days before the hanging.



    Not popular view. Suicide view. Maybe the fact the family wanted more answers threw RZ into a tizzy.
    DS sister had flown in prior to that night also and may have been staying at the guest house. They have not said who was staying there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieRose View Post
    Houseguest not Nina.
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1546671...-hanging-death

    "We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."

    Nesbit would not identify that female house guest, but the autopsy report said Zahau's teenage sister was also visiting from out of town and staying at the Coronado home in the days before the hanging.



    Not popular view. Suicide view. Maybe the fact the family wanted more answers threw RZ into a tizzy.
    snipped from the article that Rosemary pasted above:

    Contacted by News 8, Romano said she sent the text message to ask if she could come by the mansion.

    Family members said Rebecca had picked up Romano at the airport on Monday afternoon, several hours after Max Shacknai's fall down the stairs.

    "I just wanted to talk to her about the accident," Romano said. "And so I sent her a text message that said, ‘Hey are you around? I'd like to come by,' and I never heard from her. She never responded to me."

    Romano recalled sending the text earlier in the evening, though, and questioned the 10:41 p.m. time stamp on the AT&T call log.


    Maybe she stayed there part of the time and stayed with DS at the hospital and RMcDH part of the time. It sounds logical, since Rebecca picked her up at the airport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    snipped from the article that Rosemary pasted above:

    Contacted by News 8, Romano said she sent the text message to ask if she could come by the mansion.

    Family members said Rebecca had picked up Romano at the airport on Monday afternoon, several hours after Max Shacknai's fall down the stairs.

    "I just wanted to talk to her about the accident," Romano said. "And so I sent her a text message that said, ‘Hey are you around? I'd like to come by,' and I never heard from her. She never responded to me."

    Romano recalled sending the text earlier in the evening, though, and questioned the 10:41 p.m. time stamp on the AT&T call log.


    Maybe she stayed there part of the time and stayed with DS at the hospital and RMcDH part of the time. It sounds logical, since Rebecca picked her up at the airport.
    If she is also staying at the house why is she calling RZ to ask her if she can come by to talk. It doesn't sound like she's staying there. And when she says "come by", does that mean she has her own car or does RZ have to pick her up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieRose View Post
    If she is also staying at the house why is she calling RZ to ask her if she can come by to talk. It doesn't sound like she's staying there. And when she says "come by", does that mean she has her own car or does RZ have to pick her up?
    I wish I could answer your questions as I am throwing things out there to see if anything will stick. Maybe she stayed in the guest house Monday and then DS got a room at RMcDH, so she began staying there with DS? I know that there are not always rooms available right away.

    Maybe she was using DS car, or one that JS had? Can't answer any of those questions, other than to say that LE stated that XZ visted her sister, but didn't say they were her clothes either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    Thank you so much for posting this. First off, Rebecca and JS did not seem to communicate for a long period of time, as anytime you answer a phone call, it states 1 minute, even if it is only 20 seconds.

    Not sure what time they ate dinner, or where, but when Rebecca died her stomach was empty, but according to the phone records it must have been prior to 7:30, which fits with AS reported times. If she even ate, since she only had bile in her stomach).

    Why did AS call Rebecca's cell at 7:39? They had gone to dinner and he said they arrived at the mansion at 8 pm, so why a 7:39 call? This is VERY hinky to me. If he had gone to visit Max, and called at 7:30 to find Rebecca, how could they have found each other, gotten to the car and gotten all the way back to Coronado by 8?

    Why did DS sister call Rebecca at 10:41? Why not call her the next day? Or talk to her when she came to bring JS something? Was it her clothing in the guest house bedroom?

    I have more thoughts that I will post on after I think this through a bit.

    Thank you again for posting this!!!!!
    No worries Sunnie. I'm glad we're actually getting more and more info released now. Hopefully this can lead to some new insight and create better understanding of this whole puzzling case. I look forward to reading yours and everyone else's very informative posts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosemary View Post
    No worries Sunnie. I'm glad we're actually getting more and more info released now. Hopefully this can lead to some new insight and create better understanding of this whole puzzling case. I look forward to reading yours and everyone else's very informative posts here.
    That is how I think the case will finally be re-opened. If enough posters, on enough sites, make enough noise, like posting and the radio show that Tricia has lined up, eventually it will have to be addressed, simply because it refuses to go away!! I have my fingers crossed, that it will be sooner, rather than later!! And thanks, one more time!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieRose View Post
    Houseguest not Nina.
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1546671...-hanging-death

    "We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."

    Nesbit would not identify that female house guest, but the autopsy report said Zahau's teenage sister was also visiting from out of town and staying at the Coronado home in the days before the hanging.



    Not popular view. Suicide view. Maybe the fact the family wanted more answers threw RZ into a tizzy.
    That's a possibility. If she had felt that she was being unfairly blamed by everyone in the family for causing Max's death, that could explain why she would kill herself in such an angry and violent way. That could also explain why she wrote that message about 'saving him' rather than writing an apology or confession of any guilt in her part.


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    Or it could be that Rebecca was tired and was going to get ready for bed like she told her sister. Perhaps she was in the shower when the text came from DS sister and she never even bothered to read it.

    It could be one way, or the other. Since I happen to feel that Rebecca did not end her own life, I hardly feel that a text, containing what DS sister said it does, would drive Rebecca to commit suicide. Especially since we do not know if she even read it.
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    Next we need copies of the search warrants. ;-)
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    I think that if Rebecca had been feeling angry or stressed because she felt like she was being blamed by everyone in Jonah's family, she would have spilled some of it to her sister. Rebecca was close to her family, so I don't see why she wouldn't have opened up to them about what was actually going on at that time. I also don't think she would have ended it all without giving her family a proper goodbye letter or at least an explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosemary View Post
    I think that if Rebecca had been feeling angry or stressed because she felt like she was being blamed by everyone in Jonah's family, she would have spilled some of it to her sister. Rebecca was close to her family, so I don't see why she wouldn't have opened up to them about what was actually going on at that time. I also don't think she would have ended it all without giving her family a proper goodbye letter or at least an explanation.
    I agree with you in the fact that I feel her sister would have had at least a hint that something was wrong. They talked and then texted for awhile. It wasn't a one or two minute conversation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    I wish I could answer your questions as I am throwing things out there to see if anything will stick. Maybe she stayed in the guest house Monday and then DS got a room at RMcDH, so she began staying there with DS? I know that there are not always rooms available right away.

    Maybe she was using DS car, or one that JS had? Can't answer any of those questions, other than to say that LE stated that XZ visted her sister, but didn't say they were her clothes either.
    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1548506...-rebecca-zahau

    While she was in town, Romano said she stayed at her sister Dina's house, which is also in Coronado.

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