***Please note: This entire post consists of opinion, hear-say, emotion and/or conjecture. If you're interested in 'just the facts', please disregard the following comments.***
Culture & Connections: My youngest attends Tulane, which has a large contingent of students from the NE. A handful in her circle have attended the same summer camp as LS, a few are from her hometown and one indicated they're childhood friends. My D has shared with us that xanax bars and coke are popular party choices within the NE crowds and even she was taken aback by their excessive drug use. During campus parties, she has witnessed many young women (generally 100-115 lbs) being encouraged and/or trying to keep pace with the men (160-200 lbs).
This past summer, the same D worked along side an IU student who told her one week following the disappearance that a POI was a low-level DD and that she and all her friends believed that LS had OD'd and was taken out of town. In late June, I introduced myself to the co-worker as a former IU grad and we chatted about Bloomington and the LS case. When I asked her about the conversations she was having with friends and if any had contacted LE or sent in an anonymous tip, she shook her head no and changed the subject. I suspect there are plenty of concerned parents experiencing the same 'deafening silence' CS mentioned in her public letter. If the young adults last known to be with LS were/are supplying or using drugs, then naturally they're afraid to talk and would have much to hide.
Bo Dielt: I live near a crime-ridden city on the East Coast, so I get his acerbic personality and investigative approach. However, IMO his portrayal of local LE as country bumpkins will likely prevent any collaboration or sharing of OTR details that could help create major movement in finding LS or solving this case.
Cadaver Dogs & Human Decomposition: Recently, I spoke with several LE officers (one K9, who has been with his partner for only 6 months). He explained that it is extremely difficult for dogs to track on asphalt and that he wasn't surprised to hear that the LS dog lost the scent near a gravel lot. The officer said that so many factors determine whether a dog can pick up a scent days, weeks, months later (fluids, DNA, moisture levels, surface materials, …), for example, should someone pass away on pavement outdoors and be moved within moments (assuming no fluids, no hair/clothing fibers…) it would be unlikely the dog would detect anything.
More LE insight: I've been told by LE officers that "the last known person with the victim is responsible for their disappearance more than 50% of the time." Sounds like common sense right? I also understand that timing is everything and this could just as easily be a crime of opportunity, which would mean the young men wouldn't have any information about LS' whereabouts. Even so, this group of young adults (so-called 'friends') appears to be immature, selfish and insensitive as they continue to party and make concert plans on fb as if nothing in their world has changed. Are any of them in therapy? Do they feel the slightest bit guilty or responsible for contributing to LS' lack of judgement or disappearance?
Lastly, I believe several of you have touched on the possibility of LE offering deals to get POI to share all they know. I wonder if LE have approached the attorneys about reducing charges related to supplying drugs or drug use by the individuals in exchange for useful information? Would it be possible for CS & RS to sign something that would waive their ability to sue the POI in civil court? If LS has passed on, then IMO monetary damages are pointless.
Without question, everyone including LE wants to find Lauren and allow her family to return home and start the healing process. The quickest way is to get JR, MB, CR, DR, HT and others talking … for hours and hours until the puzzle pieces start to fit.
Thanks AE, I think that much is reasonable. I was just getting thrown off by some early comments and wondering if I had missed something.
CS does a lot of thinking out loud. I am almost in overload mode with all the info of late. I don't know how she stays sane. At the concert the other night she asked the crowd their motivation for being there. Free food? Course assignment?, etc. It was taken out of context by some, and I don't know the context because I was gone by then, but she's definitely a Seeker.
Yes, the WH has easy access to Old 37 North. However, if this is a WH perp and not a POI, all bets are off as to destination.
I don't see the Bloomington WH as a venue ripe for stranger abduction... too many cops around much of the time... and maybe I'm just not willing to entertain the whole crime of opportunity theory -- but I think that CS might have been saying that whoever took her somewhere that night was an abductor -- even if they were a friend.
I saw all the offense taken by commenters in the Herald Times regarding CS motivation question -- and really felt like they were being a little overly sensitive. I agree that CS often speaks in a sort of stream of consciousness monologue. I like it because it makes it easy to connect with her. I saw her motivation comments as more of a way to inject a little humor into the evening -- and acknowledging that perhaps many of the people there weren't (or hadn't been) terribly involved in the searches for LS -- and that they were still welcome.
Maybe 17-18yo is just too young to be away from home. At that age, maybe people are biologically set up to get along socially rather than rocking the boat, and risking ostracization by rejecting drug abuse. If they aren't strongly enthusiatic about academics, maybe they get too bored, and they need social acceptance much more than they would normally.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1996...iac-task-forceDetective Sgt. Michael Ciravolo, who headed a detail that investigated crimes against the elderly, read the note and grabbed his coat. Eventually, Ciravolo, now retired, would head the Zodiac task force, commanding 49 detectives in the largest manhunt since Son of Sam.
Duh! edited to add from the same article I obviously didn't read all of:
He and Kelly work for Bo Dietel Associates. Ciravolo is president.
Last edited by elmomom; 09-24-2011 at 08:57 PM. Reason: a DUH moment in my life
I have left the building.
well... I'm NEVER there at 4:30am (I always leave by 3!! ), but I understand that it's kind of a "hangout" place for BPD at night...
Also, 17-18 is when these teenagers are being trained to be counselors and leaders in the camp, generally rising seniors in high school are counselors in training, sometimes junior counselors. They are given responsibilities and the camp directors and supervisory staff have very high expectations of them. I was the assistant director of the counselor training program at my summer camp in 2010 and they couldn't have been more eager and excited to become counselors and leaders in their camp community. I think without programs like overnight camps, sports camps, teams etc, people are more likely to go down a dark path in their young adult years..
Sorry to rant, but I have to defend the camping system. It made me who I am.
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Edited to add: ha, Alliecog beat me to it.
I'm glad to hear Abby and Allie both responding to the summer camp claim! I was hesitant to do that because it's been about 35(!) years since I worked at a summer camp in NH and I thought that perhaps things had changed. But even back then, counselor background checks were pretty stringent - and the programs were tightly controlled.
This is very different from simply going out on a backpacking trip. The days and evenings are busy and there's a culture of health, responsibility, leadership that really helps kids to grow!
Somewhat OT but my camp's slogan is "where friends become family" and I couldn't imagine my life without my camp friends. To offset the cost after my first summer, my mom worked at our camp as a nurse for 8 SUMMERS. It truly became a family affair, and my camp friends have become my family and will always be like that.
She is amazing. I should mention I am a twin so she is even more awesome. She continued coming even when I was a first year staff member. Her fellow camp nurses have become her best friend, she calls them "her bunk"
Basically I'm defending camp so much because I believe in my heart that LS is a very sweet, smart and passionate girl. I know through friends that she is everything CS has said and more, a true friend that would do anything for you. I believe camp made LS this way. Unfortunately Smallwood is a place that attracts a lot of people who run in the party and drug circles, I know that she partied hard, and with people who did the same. It is easy to fall into the party scene here at IU, just like any other big college (or any college for that matter), it seems to me that LS just partied too hard that night and found herself in compromising positions. We've all been there in one way or another.
I've wondered about that, Alliecog -- and I'm glad you reminded me that it was summer...
I would think that LS would have had a group of friends from the fashion design school. I know that when I was in university, often our friend group was from within our department because we spent so much time together.... so I have wondered why those friends haven't come forward with info... but many of them were probably not in town -- that makes more sense to me now...