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    WI - Twins Taliyah & Trayton Evans, 11 mos, drowned, East Troy, 22 Sept 2011

    No charges have yet been filed, but i find it hinky the siblings were placed in CPS custody.. police don't usually do that if there is just an accident in the home.. to remove a child means there is a clear danger to them.

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    I dont know....there's not much info...she's pregnant and has 11 month old twins? that's rough...I can see a parent theoretically just tapping out without meaning to...but....while I truly think people should never EVER leave little ones alone in the tub cause you never know...would two drownings ALWAYS result? that's what is hinky for me. I know this is an accident waiting to happen (babies in the tub) but would they both drown 100% of the time? poster above says there were two other children...where were they?

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    um, you don't leave 11 month-olds in the tub alone

    so did she fall asleep on the bathroom floor? or did she actually leave the room?

    pretty sure I already know the answer ... which means negligence or homicide

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    what does the video say, I don't have sound right now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by peeples View Post
    what does the video say, I don't have sound right now.....
    Pretty much the same thing as the article. That the first persons on the scene tried to save the children but they were pronounced dead at the hospital. That the other two children have been taken from the house, but no one is under arrest. had friends and neighbors talking about how tragic it is.
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    Its never a good sign when the friend who shows up at your door who is then interviewed by the local news crew as a defacto character witness does not seem 100% *with it* IMO.

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    It's true... when I am tired I am VERY tired... and there are times when I just take the kids in the bedroom and lock all of us in there so I can get some sleep. There are nights that they need a bath and don't get one because I know I'm too tired.

    At 11 months old... they were not likely to be out playing in the dirt... and if anything might have needed to be quickly rinsed off if they had a really ugly diaper or something.

    That's the only reason I can think of for giving them a bath if I was that tired. Definitely no reason to have them in there for more than a few minutes or leave them in there at all.

    Pregnant again too... wow. That would have been extremely overwhelming. 3 kids 18 months or younger.
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 09-30-2011 at 12:20 PM. Reason: removed quote at request of poster quoted.

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    Such a horrible tragedy. So very sad.

    Rest in peace little ones.
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
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    So sad
    Just my opinions (and I have been wrong before)!

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    Praying for Aliayah!
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    It's true... when I am tired I am VERY tired... and there are times when I just take the kids in the bedroom and lock all of us in there so I can get some sleep. There are nights that they need a bath and don't get one because I know I'm too tired.

    At 11 months old... they were not likely to be out playing in the dirt... and if anything might have needed to be quickly rinsed off if they had a really ugly diaper or something.

    That's the only reason I can think of for giving them a bath if I was that tired. Definitely no reason to have them in there for more than a few minutes or leave them in there at all.

    Pregnant again too... wow. That would have been extremely overwhelming. 3 kids 18 months or younger.
    My kids could get filthy at that age, and since they loved the bath I would pop them in shallow water and sit beside them by bringing in a chair or sitting on the toilet/counter. Keeps them happy, entertained and contained- definite plusses if the other options is chasing two young toddlers while sick/tired/whatever. Remembering the early pregnancy narcolepsy, I fell asleep a couple of times in situations that I never would have imagined, and I didn't even feel "that" tired. I can see sitting down while the kids splashed each other and falling asleep without warning. Tragic, tragic, tragic.

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    This is so sad and such a tragedy. Does anyone know what happened in court? My mother had pregnancy narcolepsy. It was terrible. I was almost 3 and I remember it.
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/

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    The economy is doing terrible things to families these days! I can't even begin to imagine how exhausted she must have been trying to work overnight and take care of 4 little kids and a house too...even ONE child and a job would be a monumental undertaking!! *smh*

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    They must be waiting until after the baby is born to do anything. Don't want lawsuits and don't want babies born in jail.

    When is she due or does anyone know?
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 09-30-2011 at 01:05 PM. Reason: quote removed at request of poster being quoted
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefriahaia View Post
    The economy is doing terrible things to families these days! I can't even begin to imagine how exhausted she must have been trying to work overnight and take care of 4 little kids and a house too...even ONE child and a job would be a monumental undertaking!! *smh*
    I totally, totally agree. HOWEVER, the fact she is once again pregnant, and struggling with the children she has...I can't blame this solely on the economy.
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