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    Was Susan Poisoned?

    I didn't see a thread for this topic, and after last nights radio show I thought I would start a discussion thread.

    Link to WS radio show from last night.
    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13170501570481

    Per Kiirsi last night not verbatim: Susan was very ill the three weeks prior to her disappearance. The day Susan disappeared, JP called his dad for a pancake recipe. They spoke for 15 minutes. Kiirsi says in hindsight, this really bothers her. Feels bodily fluids not blood on carpet removed from home. Loveseat also removed from home.

    Also, previously there was information about Susan being so sick she received a blessing from her LDS Bishop. Josh acted inappropriately and made a joke out of it. If anyone has a link to this info, can you post it here? Thank You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    I didn't see a thread for this topic, and after last nights radio show I thought I would start a discussion thread.

    Link to WS radio show from last night.
    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13170501570481

    Per Kiirsi last night not verbatim: Susan was very ill the three weeks prior to her disappearance. The day Susan disappeared, JP called his dad for a pancake recipe. They spoke for 15 minutes. Kiirsi says in hindsight, this really bothers her. Feels bodily fluids not blood on carpet removed from home. Loveseat also removed from home.

    Also, previously there was information about Susan being so sick she received a blessing from her LDS Bishop. Josh acted inappropriately and made a joke out of it. If anyone has a link to this info, can you post it here? Thank You!
    sure seems that way.

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    We need to check out poisoning death cases. Someone on another thread mentioned anti-freeze and how it tastes sweet. Could this be a possibility? I have been told that poisoning by antifreeze is a slow agonizing death. (UGH hate typing that) But could it take weeks before the victim succombs to the poison? (My neighbor and I discussed anti-freeze poisoning as he used to live in the country and some of his dogs were poisoned in this manner.)

    I am going to research what the 'Black widow' used to poison her husbands. BBL.

    wm

    ETA The Black widow's fifth husbands' death apparantly pointed to arsenic poisoning. It was never proven because she had his remains cremated before his son even learned (in the media) that his father died.

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    since SP was so infatuated with Susan, I am wondering if Susan was suppose to just be 'drugged' and given to SP by JP to teach her lessons? KWIM?
    She got sicker and in transport died. Then these 2 nuts had 'other' plans.
    I am thinking SP wanted her real bad alive.
    JP was goofy enough to do what dad wanted and everything went nuts????
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    I didn't see a thread for this topic, and after last nights radio show I thought I would start a discussion thread.

    Link to WS radio show from last night.
    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13170501570481

    Per Kiirsi last night not verbatim: Susan was very ill the three weeks prior to her disappearance. The day Susan disappeared, JP called his dad for a pancake recipe. They spoke for 15 minutes. Kiirsi says in hindsight, this really bothers her. Feels bodily fluids not blood on carpet removed from home. Loveseat also removed from home.

    Also, previously there was information about Susan being so sick she received a blessing from her LDS Bishop. Josh acted inappropriately and made a joke out of it. If anyone has a link to this info, can you post it here? Thank You!

    BBM: OMG ... this is AWFUL ! Knowing what we know about JP and SP, it sounds to me like JP was "posioning" her ...

    And WHY would a "grown man" call his "daddy" for a "pancake recipe" ... when these recipes are on the box ?

    Have they checked the Powell's computers for "poisoning" searches, etc. ? ?

    This is just so sad and awful !

    Prayers for Susan and that she is found SOON !

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    BBM: OMG ... this is AWFUL ! Knowing what we know about JP and SP, it sounds to me like JP was "posioning" her ...

    And WHY would a "grown man" call his "daddy" for a "pancake recipe" ... when these recipes are on the box ?

    Have they checked the Powell's computers for "poisoning" searches, etc. ? ?

    This is just so sad and awful !

    Prayers for Susan and that she is found SOON !

    MOO ...
    search bamboo and get "how to make chloroform"

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    It sure seems that way

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    I have a fear of pancakes now, thanks Josh....

    Seriously, look on the Bisquick box, the recipe is there. It doesn't take four hours to make pancakes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    We need to check out poisoning death cases. Someone on another thread mentioned anti-freeze and how it tastes sweet. Could this be a possibility? I have been told that poisoning by antifreeze is a slow agonizing death. (UGH hate typing that) But could it take weeks before the victim succombs to the poison? (My neighbor and I discussed anti-freeze poisoning as he used to live in the country and some of his dogs were poisoned in this manner.)

    I am going to research what the 'Black widow' used to poison her husbands. BBL.

    wm

    ETA The Black widow's fifth husbands' death apparantly pointed to arsenic poisoning. It was never proven because she had his remains cremated before his son even learned (in the media) that his father died.

    Betty Neumar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There was also the trial of Cynthia Sommers tried for arsenic poisoning of her Military husband. She was later cleared.

    All you have to do is google "Deadly Women" and there are dozens of cases of poison deaths.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10479896...oning-husband/

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    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanche_Taylor_Moore"]Blanche Taylor Moore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    This woman is on death row. She was a friend of my sisters and even brought my brother-in-law banana pudding at the hospital in Winston Salem, the same time she was bringing arsenic loaded banana pudding to one of her victims who died.

    I'm thinking that Susan was being poisoned and that the pancakes held the final fatal dose. JMO.


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    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic_poisoning"]Arsenic poisoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Phar_Lap.jpg" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Phar_Lap.jpg/230px-Phar_Lap.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/8/85/Phar_Lap.jpg/230px-Phar_Lap.jpg[/ame]

    Signs and symptomsSymptoms of arsenic poisoning begin with headaches, confusion, severe diarrhea, and drowsiness. As the poisoning develops, convulsions and changes in fingernail pigmentation called leukonychia may occur. When the poisoning becomes acute, symptoms may include diarrhea, vomiting, blood in the urine, cramping muscles, hair loss, stomach pain, and more convulsions. The organs of the body that are usually affected by arsenic poisoning are the lungs, skin, kidneys, and liver. The final result of arsenic poisoning is coma to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runsdeep View Post
    search bamboo and get "how to make chloroform"

    Aha, the Casey Anthony Trial ... not only did LE find "chloroform" searches on the home computer, they found searches for "neck breaking" !

    Back to Susan ... did Law Enforcement check Josh's home computer when they lived in Utah for any kind of "poisoning" searches ? omg, I hate to even type this one, but burying and moving bodies ?

    And besides "pancake recipes" and "porn" ... I wonder if LE found any "poisoning" searches on Steve's computer or anything else ?

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    I wonder if any poisons affect the ears? Kiirsi said Susan had an earache.

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    I think she was poisoned but not killed by poison.

    I think that Josh put her in the van while she was gravely ill, "went camping" and either left her in the wilderness to die or killed her by some violent means and dumped her body.

    I think he went back to where he left her when he rented the car. Maybe he moved her or maybe just finished burying her.

    Steve is involved as the mastermind of the whole thing and possible accomplice in finishing her off and or concealing the body and he definitely has souveniers. Maybe clothes, maybe hair, maybe pics. Even body parts would not be totally out of the relm of possibilities, IMO.

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    Antifreeze Poisoning

    Symptoms
    Airways and lungs
    Rapid breathing
    No breathing
    Bladder and kidneys
    Blood in urine
    No urine output or decreased urine output
    Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
    Blurred vision
    Blindness
    Heart and blood
    Change in body's acid-base balance, which can lead to organ failure
    Rapid heartbeat
    Low blood pressure
    Muscles and joints
    Leg cramps
    Nervous system
    Coma
    Convulsions
    Dizziness
    Fatigue
    Headache
    Slurred speech
    Stupor (lack of alertness)
    Unconsciousness
    Unsteady walk
    Weakness
    Skin
    Blue lips and fingernails
    Stomach and gastrointestinal tract
    Nausea
    Vomiting

    Outlook (Prognosis)
    For ethylene glycol: Death may occur within the first 24 hours. If patient survives, there may be little or no urine output for several weeks before the kidneys recover. Any brain damage may be permanent. Vision loss or blindness may also be permanent.

    For methanol: Methanol is extremely toxic. As little as 2 TABLEspoons can kill a child, while 2 to 8 oz. can be deadly for an adult. The ultimate outcome depends on how much was swallowed and how soon appropriate care was given.

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