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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    Though a sexual murder is possible, the details you describe seem a bit more oriented toward making identification possible. Especially the (possible) removal of tattoos or other identifying marks.
    I definitely believe that this murder was to make it impossible for someone to identify this person. Now that you mention it, wouldn't someone want to have the perp identified if this was a sexual murder if in fact the victim was a rapist? Like show an example, in their eyes, of what happens to rapists? I'm not sure...
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    Wow! What an update.

    If this guy has skin cut off where the tattoo would have been, wouldn't it still be somewhat easy to pair him with somebody if he is listed as missing? For example: if he had skin cut off on his right shoulder and lower left thigh.....couldn't you compare him to a missing person that was reported to have a tattoo on his right shoulder and left thigh? Just a thought.

    Thanks for the update.

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    Guys, I have removed a couple of posts regarding the alert. The original post ID'd a confidential source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollinginit View Post
    Wow! What an update.

    If this guy has skin cut off where the tattoo would have been, wouldn't it still be somewhat easy to pair him with somebody if he is listed as missing? For example: if he had skin cut off on his right shoulder and lower left thigh.....couldn't you compare him to a missing person that was reported to have a tattoo on his right shoulder and left thigh? Just a thought.

    Thanks for the update.
    @Beach...thank you for removing those postings. The source wished to not be identified until after these leads go through.

    And Rollinginit, you may be on to something there. I have yet to determine exactly where the skin was cut, but I will find out as soon as I get the police report and some more information from the informant. Thank you for submitting that. I can tell you right now with the leads we have, we know for certain this can only get hotter and intense. As I keep letting everyone who reads my postings know, blow up the news media and tell them about this case. I just alerted every major TV outlet in North Florida from Gainesville to Jacksonville...This case may get the attention it deserves. If someone knows how we can get in contact with John Walsh from America's Most Wanted, that would be appreciated as well.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
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    News Media Alerted This Afternoon

    Today I have alerted the news media in Jacksonville, Gainesville and a local paper in Lake City via email. I think that with the small bit of infromation that has been received in the last day or two, I can assume that this will be a big story. I have not heard back from them, but the news stations I contacted were:

    WJXT-Channel 4 (Jacksonville, Lake City)
    First Coast News Ch. 12 and 17 (Jacksonville, Lake City, Brunswick GA)
    WCJB TV-20 (Gainesville, Ocala, Lake City, Live Oak)
    Lake City Journal (Lakecityjournal.com)

    I encourage you all to look them up and hold their feet to the fire and demand that this story is published. This is a new lead for this independent case, and a good chance someone may know something surrounding the events of this murder.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
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    Will be looking for any local news report.

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    Jason, I also wish you all the best with the media. I still keep searching.....the sad thing is...there are so many freaking many of them. That's the bad thing about web sleuths. It makes you realize this world is a very scary place.

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    I agree rollinginit....this world is dangerous. You know, I did get an interesting tip today. Someone I live with pointed out that perhaps this could have been a brutal killing directed by the cult-ish church Meade Ministries. MM, or also known as The Endtimers, were known to be ruthless people when it came to breaking the church rules, which meant expulsion and shunning. But a local reporter dug so dangerously deep on the religion, it was suspected that the church sent people to kill her dogs, in which she found her dogs and puppies decapitated on her lawn the next day....I never drew any connections to them on this case, but you can never be certain. http://www.rickross.com/groups/endtimes.html is the link to learn more on the Endtimers. Although it is a theory, I honestly don't think that we should draw a connection to this church, but you can't anything out.
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    I thought you might find this Detroit case interesting: MI MI - Sterling Heights - Body Parts Found in Sewer - Aug'12 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    I don't imagine it's directly related to your case, but the tattoos being removed caught my eye.
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    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Latest update 9/26/12

    Hello fellow sleuthers:

    As we all are aware, it is now time to put pressure on the press in North Florida in regards to this case. I hope that you are all sending emails and telling them that this case needs revisiting to the general public! I want to thank the 5,000+ visits to this forum and the active participation thus far.

    Right now, we have no change in the case, however on Friday I am hoping to collect a police report of the incident and perhaps make that information available to everyone. I am still staying motivated to this case and am not letting my guard down whatsoever!

    The website I am working on right now will be online before midnight or sometime after. I will post a link to the site, and also will create a "LIKE" page on Facebook. After I publish this, I will post all links to the sites, and I encourage you all to like the page and share it with friends. We need this case to go viral!

    Again, thank you all for the continued support! Please let me know if anyone hears anything or has done something to further the investigation.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
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    1978 LAKE CITY JOHN DOE WEBSLEUTHS DISCUSSION: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...st-area-Nov-78


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    FACEBOOK/WEBSITE NOW ONLINE AND RUNNING!!!

    Hey everyone:

    Just letting you all know now that the website and Facebook "Like" Page is up and running. there is enough info to get your standings on the site, but the site is still under construction and so is the page. Go to the following links to access them:

    WEBSITE: www.lakecityjohndoe.webs.com
    FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-...00565416768194

    Please visit them and TELL YOUR FRIENDS about this! TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
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    Breaking News: CCSO Refuses to budge, Medical Examiner Contacted

    CCSO REFUSES TO HELP; MEDICAL EXAMINERS OFFICE CONTACTED FOR FURTHER ASSISTANCE!

    In a rather ridiculous twist today, the Columbia County Sheriffs Office has refused to give me the documents, including police report, to me because the case is still an open homicide. Here is what was emailed to me today by LArry Auger, Excecutive Assistant to the Sheriff:

    "Mr. Futch: I just finished speaking to the Captain in Detectives referencing this case. Because it is an open homicide case no information is available for release to the public.
    Larry


    Frankly, I find this unacceptable because this is a 20-year-old case. By now you would think that the info would be open to the public so they could get more leads! So right now ladies and gentlemen, CCSO does not want to help us out...technically saying we are on our own! And afterwards, I called the informant, only for him to hang up on me.

    Now there is more hope. I will be speaking with the medical examiner who has been on this case since day 1, whose name is Jeff Brokaw, a medical examiner from District 4 ME's office in Jacksonville, FL. He should be able to provide more information. If he can't...we need to put pressure on ALL agencies. I won't back down.

    As for the press, keep pressing them. Also add my like page on Facebook and share! Share the website as well...its time this case went public!
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    Jason, if your focus is solving a murder, then the cops will not release details to the public as that might taint a possible criminal trial. LE cannot release files like this to citizens upon request.

    if your focus was on trying to identify the deceased, a polite request to the medical examiner's office might, and I say might, have yielded a better result. some members here have had some luck getting the medical examiner's or prosecutors to release a few more tidbits about the deceased but not necessarily the details of the crime. I doubt the ME's office is going to give you any information now that you have been flatly refused by LE.

    apparently someone, your "informant", tried to help you in some way but for reasons uncertain (although having his name and/or the details of what he told you plastered on these pages might have something to do with it) he is now hanging up on you.

    may I suggest you try to get a local paper interested in the story? sometimes experienced journalists have a way of getting information from "anonymous sources" with the promise that they will not be identified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    Jason, if your focus is solving a murder, then the cops will not release details to the public as that might taint a possible criminal trial. LE cannot release files like this to citizens upon request.

    if your focus was on trying to identify the deceased, a polite request to the medical examiner's office might, and I say might, have yielded a better result. some members here have had some luck getting the medical examiner's or prosecutors to release a few more tidbits about the deceased but not necessarily the details of the crime. I doubt the ME's office is going to give you any information now that you have been flatly refused by LE.

    apparently someone, your "informant", tried to help you in some way but for reasons uncertain (although having his name and/or the details of what he told you plastered on these pages might have something to do with it) he is now hanging up on you.

    may I suggest you try to get a local paper interested in the story? sometimes experienced journalists have a way of getting information from "anonymous sources" with the promise that they will not be identified.
    Thanks webrocket for the comments. But the main goal is identification at this time. This is my main goal, no more no less. We need a name so we can go from there. As soon as this victim is identified, then we can figure out the person who did it.

    LE only refused to give me the police report. What I will ask of the ME tomorrow is information that is available to the public, but needs to be information that is not found online. I do not want to give up on this and I won't.

    I have contacted Editor Robert Bridges of the Lake City Reporter and hope to hear from him soon. As for the informant, he did not know of the name leak, but I believe he refused to help me because I don't think he wanted to go through that again, as it could have perhaps been a little traumatic?

    But I need everyone's help. I cannot do this alone. We need pressure on the LE, ME, and all media in the North Florida region....otherwise we won't get any further than what we have now.
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    however difficult it might seem that this case has gone unsolved for so long, keep in mind that across the country local governments are strapped for case and they have to prioritize their use of resources.

    it is no secret that fresh crimes take priority in any jurisidiction,sometimes just getting someone to look at an old file is a chore. however gruesome this crime was, apparently, and I say apparently since I do not live in your area, no crime like this has been repeated. so it is not like they have a serial killer to contend with.

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