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    Quote Originally Posted by peace9274 View Post
    Being a psych nurse for 29 years, I've also worked the substance abuse/detox units.
    If MJ were AS addicted to drugs as some suspect... I think that there would've been more in his system at autopsy.

    As someone else said here, drug addicts take whatever is available to them.
    They forget what, when, and how much of the drug was last taken.

    I think that MJ became physically & mentally troubled AFTER CM became his private medical doctor.

    MJ's manager and others, at the rehearsals days before MJ's death, noticed that MJ was not well.
    They adsked for a conference with CM. They asked that a blood test be done on MJ, to see what was wrong with him.

    CM refused both a conference & a blood (drug?) test.

    As a doctor, CM has never acted ethically in treating MJ.

    Even if MJ were addicted or needed to be weaned/detoxed off meds... CM should've known that he (MJ) needed to be in a hospital or highly supervised, facility, with nurses & doctors keeping track of his vital signs, his reactions, AND his physical & mental status at all times.

    If MJ refused to go to a hospital or other controlled setting, he could've been papered as a danger to himself.
    That is correct.


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    He did give Flumazonel.
    Justice for Caylee

    "We have a different stage. We have the same actress," Sheaffer said.


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    Murray gave MJ the flomazasone(sp) as an antidote. That's where it came from. One question answered.


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    Murray just said that he and Alvarez moved MJ to the floor for chest compressions. And Alvarez testified to the same thing--moving MJ off the bed.

    BUT the paramedics said MJH was still on the bed when they arrived. I don't get that at all.
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    I could lift Michael Jackson off his bed by placing one hand and arm under his back and the other one under his thighs. MJ wasn't a heavy man and Dr. Murray could lift Michael off his bed imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    Murray just said that he and Alvarez moved MJ to the floor for chest compressions. And Alvarez testified to the same thing--moving MJ off the bed.

    BUT the paramedics said MJH was still on the bed when they arrived. I don't get that at all.
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    I questioned the time line on that one too. The EMTs said he was still on the bed and moved him themselves. But Alverez and Murray now both say they moved him. Unless it was all happening simultaneously.


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    no one came to door, I got flumazenil its antidose reverse effects of benzodiapenes, .2mg I gave into IV, continued to give compressions, still not breathing, opened door ran to Kitchen, saw chef said I have an emergency, thats when I saw man who gave 911 came into room, 911 called, (only time animated as he describes 911 call)

    we moved patient to floor (paramedics say they moved him) we realised his rhythm was pea, heartbeat not contracting, never shock patient in this state, got medicenes enephrine, atrophine, I told them to consider bicarbonate, paramedics got a vein, in process of moving him my IV became dislodged, they gave him bicarbonates, after 20 mins of an effort which I thought was ? I asked UCLA to transfer the care to me, I love MJ he was my friend, I wanted to help him, he was a single parent, CPR continued, other drugs continued, I was in ambulance, got to UCLA, got to UCLA, we tried for an hour, finally try a ballon pump, we just could not get blood gasses ?


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    Murray is offering waaaayyyyy too much information to the detectives, a way of lying?


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    Just saw the fear in doc's eyes when the person entered the courtroom and caused the interruption.
    I have read that people would want to kill this man, but never even considered whether or not CM took that seriously until I saw that closeup of his face.
    He was beyond fearful...IMO.
    Did anyone else see that?


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    What went on in the courtroom that pissed the judge off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabelle View Post
    Murray is offering waaaayyyyy too much information to the detectives, a way of lying?
    It is called cover your *ss if you can.

    Unless I have included a link, it is my opinion and only my opinion that I am expressing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tweezybird View Post
    What went on in the courtroom that pissed the judge off?
    A woman walked through the courtroom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tweezybird View Post
    What went on in the courtroom that pissed the judge off?
    Someone apparently walked through the courtroom. The judge stopped the recording and said, I can't have people walking through my courtroom, and some shuffling and then they restarted the recording.


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    called code, I said I did not have explanation, could not rule out pulmonary embolism, (just my impression but Murray is enjoying educating and schooling LE in his expertise, an ego at work)

    also my opinion Murray does not enjoy revisiting the few minutes he says he left MJ to go to bathroom, he went on a long ramble about Dr Adams when they were discussing that


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    Couldn't the cops have found a quieter place for the interview? It sounds like it's dinner time and they are in the middle of the kitchen


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